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Game 56: Los Angeles (36-19) vs Sacramento (19-34)

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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles (36-19) vs Sacramento (19-34) 

Post#81 » by QRich3 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:46 am

LACtdom wrote:Wow, a Clipper fan saying Cousins whinges too much is very hypocritical considering we are the clear league leader in technical fouls. According to DJ he's never committed a foul. Blake also gets fouled on every single layup. Chris Paul is constantly in the ear of every single ref along with our coach Doc.

Also, if you don't see the skills of Cousins just look at his numbers. If only Blake could put up numbers like that.

And what the hell is hypocritical about that? I'm not the one talking to the refs, am I supposed to embrace moaning because some players on the team I support do it? Anyway, that's not even what I'm talking about. what I'm saying is, if you're gonna base your whole public persona in trying to be a badman and call other guys floppers and whiners, laugh at them and say you don't respect them for it, you shouldn't be the main example of doing exactly that, and sure as hell you shouldn't be doing this:

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If you wanna do it, just do it and shut up, don't try to be the poster boy against it. Now that's hypocritical.

Oh and by the way, that's exactly what I meant with the media hype, Blake DOES have arguably better numbers than Cousins in pretty much every category, unless you're looking at raw PPG and volume RPG. Even with Blake shooting a lot more jumpers this year and decreasing his % because of it, his scoring efficiency is still better than Cousins, even when he doesn't draw as many fouls. And he turns it over nearly half as much as Cousins. He gets less rebounds because his role is not crashing the boards as much, but the % of contested rebounds they get is pretty similar (42.6% for Cousins, 39.7% for Blake). And that's not even accounting for Blake's playmaking, he creates 4 more points per game for his teammates than Cousins does. If you wanna break it by types of play, Blake scores 1.07 points per possession when he isolates, Cousins scores 0.78 PPP. When posting up, Blake scores 0.94 PPP for Cousins 0.90 PPP. On the P&R, Blake scores 0.94 PPP, Cousins 0.97. If you'd rather go by +/- numbers, RAPM for this year says Griffin is the 29th most impactful player in the league, nearly doubling Cousins' production (who is at 89). I just can't see how you can come to the conclusion that you wish Blake had Cousins' numbers if you just look beyond points per game and rebounds per game. And that's what hype does for him.
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles (36-19) vs Sacramento (19-34) 

Post#82 » by LACtdom » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:17 pm

QRich3 wrote:
LACtdom wrote:Wow, a Clipper fan saying Cousins whinges too much is very hypocritical considering we are the clear league leader in technical fouls. According to DJ he's never committed a foul. Blake also gets fouled on every single layup. Chris Paul is constantly in the ear of every single ref along with our coach Doc.

Also, if you don't see the skills of Cousins just look at his numbers. If only Blake could put up numbers like that.

And what the hell is hypocritical about that? I'm not the one talking to the refs, am I supposed to embrace moaning because some players on the team I support do it? Anyway, that's not even what I'm talking about. what I'm saying is, if you're gonna base your whole public persona in trying to be a badman and call other guys floppers and whiners, laugh at them and say you don't respect them for it, you shouldn't be the main example of doing exactly that, and sure as hell you shouldn't be doing this:

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If you wanna do it, just do it and shut up, don't try to be the poster boy against it. Now that's hypocritical.

Oh and by the way, that's exactly what I meant with the media hype, Blake DOES have arguably better numbers than Cousins in pretty much every category, unless you're looking at raw PPG and volume RPG. Even with Blake shooting a lot more jumpers this year and decreasing his % because of it, his scoring efficiency is still better than Cousins, even when he doesn't draw as many fouls. And he turns it over nearly half as much as Cousins. He gets less rebounds because his role is not crashing the boards as much, but the % of contested rebounds they get is pretty similar (42.6% for Cousins, 39.7% for Blake). And that's not even accounting for Blake's playmaking, he creates 4 more points per game for his teammates than Cousins does. If you wanna break it by types of play, Blake scores 1.07 points per possession when he isolates, Cousins scores 0.78 PPP. When posting up, Blake scores 0.94 PPP for Cousins 0.90 PPP. On the P&R, Blake scores 0.94 PPP, Cousins 0.97. If you'd rather go by +/- numbers, RAPM for this year says Griffin is the 29th most impactful player in the league, nearly doubling Cousins' production (who is at 89). I just can't see how you can come to the conclusion that you wish Blake had Cousins' numbers if you just look beyond points per game and rebounds per game. And that's what hype does for him.


all I'm saying is we are as bad as anyone else in the league when it comes to whining and flopping so don't complain when other players do it. I don't complain about it because it doesn't bother me. You clearly are against it so take a step back and look at us before you bag out other players who aren't as guilty as we are.

Your original post was you whining about Cousins and his whining. So let's look at those facts. Blake has more technicals and the Clippers are number 1 when it comes to techs. I thought only Laker fans thought their team is perfect, I guess you proved me wrong. End of story.
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Re: Game 56: Los Angeles (36-19) vs Sacramento (19-34) 

Post#83 » by QRich3 » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:00 pm

lol ok, see it the way you wanna see it, if you wanna take your ball home and stop playing just do that. I've often pointed to our guys complaining and I'm not really that bothered by it or by Cousins doing it. My original post was calling BS on all you buying into the "Cousins has changed" hype, you wanna see it as a whine, go ahead. I don't think I need to prove that I'm critical of our guys when I think I need to be critical about them.

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