The 3 guys I cut before 2015.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Really. I've seen every game since 1969. I don't need your punk ass crap that I don't follow this team. I love everything about Lee that all of you guys love in him. Some guys are just injury prone and I want more than 6 game a year from him. Don't tell me having Lee on the field for only 6 to 8 games a year helps us. When you take the hard core business side of this and look at his over contribution the past 3 years, its not worth it. If you can guarantee Lee plays a full year and through the playoffs, then I agree with all of you in here that's it worth it.

Lee played 14 games in 2010, 15 in 2011, 6 in 2012, 11 in 2013. 2012 he had a freak toe injury and went on the IR week 8 and could have came back before the playoffs if it wasn't for NFL IR rules. 2013 was a neck injury and this year he had a player fall on his leg at practice. They were all unavoidable injuries on his part. The difference Lee makes in a game in the NFL where ONE GAME can cost you the playoffs is worth the money.

You would have cut Murray before his record setting season.

While I find it hard to believe anyone has a higher opinion of Lee than me at this point (I've said for a few years now he'd be All Pro if healthy and that he is every bit as good as Kuechly) he does need to find a way to stay on the field more. If he does our defense automatically becomes much better. Even if you re-read your own post it does kind of outline the enormous number of major injuries he has had. The point you make that I have been making is the one about Murray. I'll pull up threads from the 2013 where people wanted Murray cut and said he wasn't any good and we should draft another RB or sign Chris Johnson types. I don't see too many people questioning Murray now...

Actually I have no problem letting Murray go right now and signing A.P. if the price is right. Murray, like Lee is injury prone. He also fumbles too much for my liking and I totally believe he will never have a season like last. Actually, if we do keep Murray for next year, I fully expect he will miss a bunch of games.

[Jarntt]

I don't expect him to ever have a year like last year either, but I don't expect AP to have another year like Murray had last year either. Point is he doesn't have to play like he did in 2014 to be worth bringing back. Everyone was talking about how our defense played better than expected last year and Murray and our running game was a big reason for that. The man needs to be brought back if his salary demands are reasonable IMO.

[bluejerseyjinx]

A.P. will be much fresher, hungrier, less banged up with a lot to prove this upcoming season. A. P. will be a monster behind our O-line. Looks like it might happen now that it has been reported by his agent that he will not play for Minnesota. I think getting A.P. is a huge upgrade.

[pools]

I would not be against getting AP and letting Murray walk, AP would come at a huge discount to run behind our line. But Im also hoping Gordon is sitting there at 27 when we pick.

[Jarntt]

Give me the choice straight up and I take Murray. There is no way I'm giving AP the contract he is going to get. If you guys think he is going to come at a huge discount, all I can say is I don't see it. Murray is younger, better in the passing game as a receiver and in pass protection and already fits nicely with what this team is doing. With all of our issues, the last place I go to spend even more money is RB. If we offer AP a contract we will be regretting it at the end of that contract. The guy is already 30 years old. At what age are you comfortable paying big $'s to a RB? This would be a Jerry move from 5 years ago and I thought we all agreed that the new way of doing business for this team was better than chasing the latest splash like in years past. I'm not convinced AP is even an upgrade at this point, but even if you are, how is the incremental benefit achieved the best way to spend our limited cap $'s?

[bluejerseyjinx]

Give me the choice straight up and I take Murray. There is no way I'm giving AP the contract he is going to get. If you guys think he is going to come at a huge discount, all I can say is I don't see it. Murray is younger, better in the passing game as a receiver and in pass protection and already fits nicely with what this team is doing. With all of our issues, the last place I go to spend even more money is RB. If we offer AP a contract we will be regretting it at the end of that contract. The guy is already 30 years old. At what age are you comfortable paying big $'s to a RB? This would be a Jerry move from 5 years ago and I thought we all agreed that the new way of doing business for this team was better than chasing the latest splash like in years past. I'm not convinced AP is even an upgrade at this point, but even if you are, how is the incremental benefit achieved the best way to spend our limited cap $'s?

I don't disagree at all with anything you just said. This is just an instinct on my part that Jerry wants to do and I'm afraid he will. At this point I want to put some nice pieces on defense so I'm willing to let Murray go if need be and tell A.P. to take a hike if the price is not right. With our O-line and a deep RB draft this year I have no problem picking up a back in the 3ird or 4th round if need be. Personally, I'd like to sign Suh to a decent 3 year deal and go from there.

[ncmalko1]

Honest question BJJ, you honestly think Suh and his agents are going to accept a 3 year contract at a decent price when he can get 100,000,000?

[Schmoopy1000]

Honest question BJJ, you honestly think Suh and his agents are going to accept a 3 year contract at a decent price when he can get 100,000,000?

Suh will want to top JJ Watt money & will be a 5 yr or longer deal. We wont be in the running for Suh.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Honest question BJJ, you honestly think Suh and his agents are going to accept a 3 year contract at a decent price when he can get 100,000,000?

Depends whether its money he wants and is looking for or winning championships.

[PDay8810]

Really. I've seen every game since 1969. I don't need your punk ass crap that I don't follow this team. I love everything about Lee that all of you guys love in him. Some guys are just injury prone and I want more than 6 game a year from him. Don't tell me having Lee on the field for only 6 to 8 games a year helps us. When you take the hard core business side of this and look at his over contribution the past 3 years, its not worth it. If you can guarantee Lee plays a full year and through the playoffs, then I agree with all of you in here that's it worth it.

Haha! I completely agree with you about Lee. Love the player when he's healthy. Problem is he gets hurt every single year. Being a sideline leader is overrated. When a player continues to get hurt and is then on the sidelines being a rah-rah guy his teammates will eventually start to tune him out. I think if he gets hurt again this year, it will be his last year in Dallas. The Cowboys need guys that can stay on the field. I fully expect the Cowboys to draft another LB this year in the first 3 rounds. When/if they sign Dez I don't see how they will be able to keep both McClain and Carter. Carter was the more productive of the two and may be too expensive to resign.

I think/hope Free will be resigned at a reduced rate. He's better than Parnell in pass blocking and would give the Cowboys experienced depth at the tackle position.

As for Carr, I don't think they cut him if they are only going to save a half million dollars. With some upgrades to the pass rush (specifically at DT) the secondary will be fine.

You agree with me. Hey guys I found someone that doesn't know me yet.

LOL..To funny.
I know many that share the opinion and I often tend to agree. Not Lee, not yet anyways.
REASON? Culture! I actually buy in that Dallas required complete overhaul. Garrett talks about players that love the game of football being in high demand.....that's Sean Lee and believe it or not, that actually rubs off on people. It's extremely contiguous if you get players that love football. Player coach ain't so bad, wasn't last year...truth be told, Ask McClain.

[pools]

Honest question BJJ, you honestly think Suh and his agents are going to accept a 3 year contract at a decent price when he can get 100,000,000?

Depends whether its money he wants and is looking for or winning championships.

We are talking about SUH. He is not in the game for the love of the game or the championships. He is in the game to be a name and get paid. If he was in the league to win championships and for the love of them game you would not see the behavior that we constantly see out of him.

Don't get me wrong I would love to have the guy here for his SKILL but we will not even come close to what he wants and honestly thing he would be bad for the teams overall attitudes.

[Otis Driftwood]

Honest question BJJ, you honestly think Suh and his agents are going to accept a 3 year contract at a decent price when he can get 100,000,000?

Depends whether its money he wants and is looking for or winning championships.

We are talking about SUH. He is not in the game for the love of the game or the championships. He is in the game to be a name and get paid. If he was in the league to win championships and for the love of them game you would not see the behavior that we constantly see out of him.

Don't get me wrong I would love to have the guy here for his SKILL but we will not even come close to what he wants and honestly thing he would be bad for the teams overall attitudes.

He's going to take the payday. And with Bush being let go this afternoon, I'll be shocked if the Lions aren't the ones with that payday for him.

[bluejerseyjinx]

We will never be a championship defense till we get an all pro DT.

[Schmoopy1000]

We will never be a championship defense till we get an all pro DT.

we definitely need to get a difference maker at DT.

[Jarntt]

There are many different ways to achieve a championship team. An All Pro DT is a nice start on defense, but I prefer a shut down corner or a Demarcus Ware type difference maker in the passing game at DE. There is no one recipe to achieving it.

[bluejerseyjinx]

There are many different ways to achieve a championship team. An All Pro DT is a nice start on defense, but I prefer a shut down corner or a Demarcus Ware type difference maker in the passing game at DE. There is no one recipe to achieving it.

I'll pass on the Demarcus Ware type without getting into any details. Saw that ugly movie for years. No thanks. We don't need the over rated types that don't show up in big games like him and Harvey Martin. That's the last damn thing we need on defense now.

[Jarntt]

Yeah, who needs an NFL Defensive player of the year, All Pro and SB MVP...Many call his 1977 season the best ever for a Cowboy defensive player and I'll ignore your Ware bias

[bluejerseyjinx]

Yeah, who needs an NFL Defensive player of the year, All Pro and SB MVP...Many call his 1977 season the best ever for a Cowboy defensive player and I'll ignore your Ware bias

Anyone who closely followed the Cowboys that year knew it was Randy White the Manster that made everything happen for Martin. Randy was double and triple teamed every game that whole year. Randy White should of been MVP and Harvey Martin was nothing without him. I don't have to say anything about Ware. The proof is already in the pudding. We've already improved tremendously since he has left, the attitude and culture has changed and so far everyone has bought in.

[pools]

The Ware comments are just laughable, He was never a pure pass rusher he dropped into coverage almost as often as he came on the blitz. We never had an average secondary while he was here yet he got to the QB like no other player in the league. His play declined as his injuries mounted. This defense is NOT BETTER with him gone last years defense was a product of our offense look at the per play and our defense was statistally worse than 2013.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Well, I totally disagree but I'm not going to talk about Ware anymore. It causes too many hard feelings with fellow Cowboy poster's that I would rather stay on the good side of. They all know how I feel and I will never change my mind about that bum, so I try to leave it alone.