Official Trade Thread - Part XXIX

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Could be a possibility, knowing that Kidd likes a 2 PG lineup, I think he will move MCW to PG/SG. I would guess they will burn their draft pick on either a C or PG - and I would guess PG.

PG: Draft Pick?, Jerryd Bayless, Tyler Ennis
SG: Michael Carter-Williams, O.J. Mayo
SF: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jared Dudley, Damien Inglis
PF: Jabari Parker, Ersan Ilyasova, Johnny O'Bryant
C: Zaza Pachulia, John Henson, Miles Plumlee

Khris Middleton - Not sure if they will resign

So it would make sense they would want a true starting C. And Kidd would love Satoransky - Another big PG/SG.

Two trends that seem to be en vogue are two PG lineups and stretch PFs.

If I coached in the NBA I would try innovative lineups. Five point forwards. Three guards and two small forwards, with one who can post.

I would have me some Andre Miller types. I liked seeing Jason Richardson at Pete Newell's Big Man Camp. Yeah, give me a 6' 5" guy who can play with his back to the basket.

Dejuan Blair is so unique. I would design crushing pick plays just like Chuck Daly did with Mahorn.

If I were coaching I would have one Charles Oakley, who virtually everyone is scared of. I wouldn't play him more than a better young player. He would be a "symbolic" goon who might be inserted for opportunities to give a good foul. Oakley could have squashed gun gate BTW...

Loved me some Jahidi White. That's who needs to mentor Seraphin.

I digress.

[Ruzious]

Terps are going to have to double Kaminsky - but that's gonna let Dekker have his way.

Jahidi White could mentor a bull in a China shop.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I know this wouldn't be well received, but it's high risk, high reward.

Beal + filler for Embid and Wroten Jr.

I understand Beal's importance to this team, but at this point, I don't see much upside on this roster. We don't have anyone with near the potential Embid has in the frontcourt, and Beal hasn't progressed much from his rookie season.

I'm just throwing this out there...don't know if I'd actually pull the trigger, especially because Embid has been such a disappointment to the 76ers that they're actually considering trading him.

Deal, if Embiid can pass a very strenuous/probative/thorough medical battery of tests

Is he a Sam Bowie or Greg Oden waiting to happen? Why so many injuries? Back issues? I dunno about his health but I saw what he was doing at Kansas.

Hakeem the Dream-like athleticism and agility. Embiid has potential. ..

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I know this wouldn't be well received, but it's high risk, high reward.

Beal + filler for Embid and Wroten Jr.

I understand Beal's importance to this team, but at this point, I don't see much upside on this roster. We don't have anyone with near the potential Embid has in the frontcourt, and Beal hasn't progressed much from his rookie season.

I'm just throwing this out there...don't know if I'd actually pull the trigger, especially because Embid has been such a disappointment to the 76ers that they're actually considering trading him.

I would love to do that, but... I think Philly is depending on Embiid to be the centerpiece of their rebuild. I think we might have a shot getting Noel for Beal; but not Embiid unless they think he's damaged goods. If they're willing to trade him for Beal, be very suspicious.

I don't really mean this but my thought was. .. or, Philly could be smoking crack. They LOVE to trade prospects. Gave up a Rookie of the Year with the quickness. Sure, they can trade Embiid.

The Sixers have IIRC two first round picks and six second round picks this draft. Eight of sixty picks, split between 30 teams.

Instead of two picks, the have EIGHT.

Offer this years 1st, baloney, crack...and might be able to get Embiid without giving up Beal. Philly deals players.

Heck, offer Gortat and a first and a sandwich for Embiid and McGee. Throw in Porter and the Sixers will give you Noel.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Philly has Miami's pick (currently 16th). I would offer Beal and our 2016 pick for that pick and Noel. Hope to draft Kaminsky with the Miami pick and Grant with our pick. Trade Hump for a shooting guard. Going into 2016/2017, we'd have a 3some up front of Gortat, Noel, and Kaminsky to attract Durant - plus Wall, Porter, Grant, Sato, and whoever we get for Hump.

We'd have to depend on Kaminsky and Noel stepping up fast behind Gortat and Nene and make a good Hump trade, but what we have now ain't gonna cut it.

Kaminsky. ....is better than Todd Fuller, right? Danny Schayes, Brad Daugherty, Jack Sikma, young Kevin Duckworth, Ike Austin....

Is Kaminsky similar to any listed above?

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Can't quote from the locked thread, but Gambit says I'm being too hard on Sessions -- he's having a down year, but he's a good player.

To be fair... I have to eat a little crow, and I don't mind. Sessions has been solid in several of his now almost 8 seasons in the league. But, overall he's been a lot less effective in the last 3 years (tho in fact he wasn't bad w/ the Bucks in his 28-game 2d stint there.

Overall, I don't think anyone could say he's been as good as Miller, and I'm not sure there's a reason to believe that, overall, he'll be as good as Miller this season either. And, of course, this calls the trade into question.

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I can't believe we've had 29 of these things.

Continued from here

And I bet there's a bad LyricalRico trade on every page.

Fixed.

Nah... LR doesn't post on every page.

[Ruzious]

Philly has Miami's pick (currently 16th). I would offer Beal and our 2016 pick for that pick and Noel. Hope to draft Kaminsky with the Miami pick and Grant with our pick. Trade Hump for a shooting guard. Going into 2016/2017, we'd have a 3some up front of Gortat, Noel, and Kaminsky to attract Durant - plus Wall, Porter, Grant, Sato, and whoever we get for Hump.

We'd have to depend on Kaminsky and Noel stepping up fast behind Gortat and Nene and make a good Hump trade, but what we have now ain't gonna cut it.

Kaminsky. ....is better than Todd Fuller, right? Danny Schayes, Brad Daugherty, Jack Sikma, young Kevin Duckworth, Ike Austin....

Is Kaminsky similar to any listed above?

That's a wintry mix of players - some good pure snow mixed with sleet and freezing rain. Sikma is the closest - though Sikma was a more physical player. Daugherty was one of my favorite players. He was the Tim Duncan of his era - almost as good - if he could have stayed healthier. Kaminsky can flat out shoot - with range. And he's a better athlete than given credit for. He can actually cover athletic 4's on the perimeter. What I think he'll have trouble with is bulkier players backing him down near the basket. He'll definitely get tested by physical players his rookie year. Oh, and he's legitimately 7 feet tall with a high BBIQ.

[hands11]

I think Nene is the one they will try to move.

Maybe with everyone going back home there is a DEN deal. Danilo ? Never really cared for him but we need to unclog this roster. I don't see the egos of Nene and Gortat matching and I would keep Gortat.

Amir Johnson is a UFA

If CLE does well, Love likely stays another year.
LMA would be smart to stay in POR

That only leaves Milsap which would be awesome but that would take a sign an trade. But thats a stretch ATL would want him.

[nuposse04]

We shouldn't have to make too many trades, just try our luck at some potential D-League gems

Khem Birch and Jabari Brown.

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Just cut Gooden damnit.

[LyricalRico]

And I bet there's a bad LyricalRico trade on every page.

Fixed.

Nah... LR doesn't post on every page.

Sounds like an invitation! Bulls need a new PG right? So...

Wizards trade: Wall and Webster
Bulls trade: Gibson, McDermott, Hinrich, Snell, 8 firsts & 25 protected seconds

We dump Webster, move Nene to the bench, and turn the team over to Sessions!

Gortat/Nene
Gibson/Hump
Porter/Pierce
Beal/Snell
Sesions/Hinrich

BOOM! Consider this thread christened!

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Is it possible to trade a GM??

[queridiculo]

Is it possible to trade an owner?

[Sluggerface]

Off-season trade to pop the cherry in this thread

Marcin Gortat
Rights to Satornasky

for

John Henson
OJ Mayo
2015 2nd

Henson would give us a nice defensive center who is young and could be around for a while. Bucks do this to upgrade at center. Gortat would flourish in a spread offense their rolling to the basket. Given their defensive guards and wings, Milwaukee might want to trade for more offense at the 5 position. Getting Mayo for us would also fill a need as a backup SG and is an expiring.

I think the value is fair.

Henson/Nene
Pierce/Humphries/Kaminsky
Porter/
Beal/Mayo
Wall/Sessions

If we're doing anything with Milwaukee I would target Khris Middleton, in fact I would do a sign and trade with Nene for Middleton. He's basically Draymond Green without the potential max price tag.

[Ruzious]

Middleton's statistically one of the top players in the NBA this season. I assume he'll likely get around 10 mil per year as an RFA, and Nene doesn't begin to get him.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Middleton's statistically one of the top players in the NBA this season. I assume he'll likely get around 10 mil per year as an RFA, and Nene doesn't begin to get him.

Middleton played for Maryland's coach, Mark Turgeon, while at Texas A&M.

It's hard to believe Middleton will be able to make that much money after the way his career started.

[nate33]

Middleton's statistically one of the top players in the NBA this season. I assume he'll likely get around 10 mil per year as an RFA, and Nene doesn't begin to get him.

So, you're saying we can't sign-and-trade Kevin Seraphin for him?

[Sluggerface]

Middleton's statistically one of the top players in the NBA this season. I assume he'll likely get around 10 mil per year as an RFA, and Nene doesn't begin to get him.

Middleton played for Maryland's coach, Mark Turgeon, while at Texas A&M.

It's hard to believe Middleton will be able to make that much money after the way his career started.

Statistically, he's been Milwaukee's best player this season. He's young, can play both forward positions, has the length to defend both forward positions, can shoot the 3 incredibly well, can play out of the post, and can put the ball on the floor. These kinds of guys are premium in today's game. There's no way he's going for anything less than 10 mil on the market.

[nate33]

Middleton's statistically one of the top players in the NBA this season. I assume he'll likely get around 10 mil per year as an RFA, and Nene doesn't begin to get him.

Middleton played for Maryland's coach, Mark Turgeon, while at Texas A&M.

It's hard to believe Middleton will be able to make that much money after the way his career started.

Statistically, he's been Milwaukee's best player this season. He's young, can play both forward positions, has the length to defend both forward positions, can shoot the 3 incredibly well, can play out of the post, and can put the ball on the floor. These kinds of guys are premium in today's game. There's no way he's going for anything less than 10 mil on the market.

He is a bit under-the-radar playing up in Milwaukee. I'm assuming Milwaukee fully understands his value on the basketball court, but others may not. Milwaukee could get lucky and nobody offers him big money in the free agency market so that Milwaukee can get away with signing him to a Trevor Ariza type of contract.

[Ruzious]

Middleton's statistically one of the top players in the NBA this season. I assume he'll likely get around 10 mil per year as an RFA, and Nene doesn't begin to get him.

So, you're saying we can't sign-and-trade Kevin Seraphin for him?

Well, it doesn't hurt to ask. Actually, that could hurt if John Hammond is within punching distance. Hammond seems like a GM with his head on straight - so far.

Middleton being restricted could hurt him - if teams just assume Milwaukee would match whatever offer he gets, that could stop teams from taking the time to make a serious offer.