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Jerry on Dez 

Post#1 » by Schmoopy1000 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 3:38 am

Jerry Jones doesn't think Dez Bryant will pout if franchise tagged.
The Cowboys have until March 2 to slap Dez with the franchise tag, something they will do if a long-term deal can't be reached. It's hard to be too upset over a one-year deal worth roughly $13M. And from a fantasy perspective, having Dez in a contract year once again can only be a good thing.
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Post#2 » by ncmalko1 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:48 am

I know it sounds crazy coming from people who are fighting to pay their bills and can only dream about having a 13 million dollar payday but Dez will be pissed getting tagged as were many others. Dez is looking at 35 million up front plus the 1st year salary. Hypothetically, he blows out both knees on one play he NEVER gets his 35 mill signing bonus. Dez and his agents arent looking at it as 13 mill for one season, they are looking at it like they could potentially LOSE 20 million dollars if he gets severely injured.

Personally I side with the players on getting their big money when they can. I never really understood the common persons anger with athletes getting paid HUGE money. I NEVER hear people complaining will Ferrell gets 20 million a movie (and the guy isnt even funny). I never hear people complaining that Exxon?Mobil has profited over a billion a month for almost 6 straight years and are tax exempt. I never hear people complaining that Jeff Laurie and Jerry Jones have made over a BILLION DOLLARS in franchise value alone... but when it comes to athletes getting paid people call them spoiled brats. Dont get it Schmoopy???
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Post#3 » by Schmoopy1000 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:57 am

If Will Ferrell came on TV & pouted about being paid 20 million a movie I bet tons of people would lash out. Same with any rich person crying about not being paid enough. Years back when baseball owners were crying I didn't see anyone giving them any sympathy & it was reported (don't know if true or not) some of them were losing money. (I had a hard time believing it but...) So I think because if a sports player cries for not making 8 figures extra money & compares it to feeding their family which is a popular argument with them. I can see why they get backlash. So honestly I think it is when any rich person says they don't make enough they would get the back lash, just you usually here it from sports players more than any other type of rich person , not associated with politics. Not sure why you pointed me out, but that is the answer I came up with.
Now as far as the argument of being franchised. Yes no star player likes to be franchised for the very reason you mention (injury) however if they get franchised it is usually their own fault. if they are demanding more money than a team is willing to pay & they aren't realistically willing to negotiate, the tag puts the ball in the teams court. The team is willing to pay more because it helps their cap early on in the contract, but if the player puts it to high & doesn't want to budged........ Well then they get tagged. (& hopes to not get injured)
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Post#4 » by ncmalko1 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:17 am

Wasn't Calling you out brother. I just went off on a tangent and you were the thread starter. You had nothing to do with my rant. Sports players are the only contracts that really come out in discussion. If Will Ferrell doesn't agree with what the studio offers (hypothetically) this contract disagreement isn't made public knowledge. But it does become public with athletes. Just as people call athletes jerks no one mentions the owners trying to low ball them. Athletes generate this obscene amount of cash so it only seems fair they got a good portion of the cash they generate. I'd waaaay rather Dez get the cash then Jerry Jones for example.
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Post#5 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:24 am

ncmalko1 wrote:I know it sounds crazy coming from people who are fighting to pay their bills and can only dream about having a 13 million dollar payday but Dez will be pissed getting tagged as were many others. Dez is looking at 35 million up front plus the 1st year salary. Hypothetically, he blows out both knees on one play he NEVER gets his 35 mill signing bonus. Dez and his agents arent looking at it as 13 mill for one season, they are looking at it like they could potentially LOSE 20 million dollars if he gets severely injured.

Personally I side with the players on getting their big money when they can. I never really understood the common persons anger with athletes getting paid HUGE money. I NEVER hear people complaining will Ferrell gets 20 million a movie (and the guy isnt even funny). I never hear people complaining that Exxon?Mobil has profited over a billion a month for almost 6 straight years and are tax exempt. I never hear people complaining that Jeff Laurie and Jerry Jones have made over a BILLION DOLLARS in franchise value alone... but when it comes to athletes getting paid people call them spoiled brats. Dont get it Schmoopy???

Movie stars and billionaire's don't have a salary cap. That's the difference.
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Post#6 » by PDay8810 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:47 pm

Teams aren't jumping up & down to tag players. That's 13 plus towards THIS years cap and it's used as a last resort. This is exactly the situation with Dallas and Bryant. The problem could be Rock Nation and their desires as much as anything here.
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Post#7 » by Schmoopy1000 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:43 pm

More Dez news contract wise



According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, the Cowboys have been reluctant to sign free agent Dez Bryant to a long-term deal because of ongoing concerns about his off-field behavior.
The police have been called to his home in DeSoto, Texas six times since 2011, though Bryant wasn't charged in any of the incidents. Reports of a 2011 incident in a Wal-Mart parking lot have also surfaced. Dallas previously offered Bryant a ten-year, $114 million extension, but that offer only included $20 million in guaranteed money.
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Post#8 » by PDay8810 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:05 pm

Schmoopy1000 wrote:More Dez news contract wise



According to NFL.com's Ian Rapoport, the Cowboys have been reluctant to sign free agent Dez Bryant to a long-term deal because of ongoing concerns about his off-field behavior.
The police have been called to his home in DeSoto, Texas six times since 2011, though Bryant wasn't charged in any of the incidents. Reports of a 2011 incident in a Wal-Mart parking lot have also surfaced. Dallas previously offered Bryant a ten-year, $114 million extension, but that offer only included $20 million in guaranteed money.

The bold is my only concern and the number one reason why long term$$$ commitments can't be. 28M over the next two tagged seasons ain't all bad for Mr. Bryant
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Post#9 » by Jarntt » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:52 pm

If you tag him a second time it goes up by 20% (I'm pretty sure it's 20%). That's from around $14M to around $16.8M
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Post#10 » by PDay8810 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:10 am

"Bryant earned about $11.8 million, so the one-year tag worth $13 million would be more than what he earned in his first five seasons. The only tags higher belong to quarterbacks and defensive ends"

nope...can't feel sorry for all that.
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Post#11 » by Jarntt » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:03 pm

Agree that it is plenty of $. I meant more it's tough our cap to have those two numbers in the next two years. At least for right now we have the luxury of tagging him this year or at least for right now while we figure out what we are going to do long term. Even if all of the legal matters we are talking about are old and no longer a concern it was pretty clear last year that there is still a lot of drama surrounding him on the field. There is still some maturing to be done and he still does not have control of his own emotions. There is a difference between having passion and having emotional issues with no self control and he has the latter.
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Post#12 » by PDay8810 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:12 pm

Jarntt wrote:Agree that it is plenty of $. I meant more it's tough our cap to have those two numbers in the next two years. At least for right now we have the luxury of tagging him this year or at least for right now while we figure out what we are going to do long term. Even if all of the legal matters we are talking about are old and no longer a concern it was pretty clear last year that there is still a lot of drama surrounding him on the field. There is still some maturing to be done and he still does not have control of his own emotions. There is a difference between having passion and having emotional issues with no self control and he has the latter.

I agree 100% and why I never assume anything Dez
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Post#13 » by Earl Stevens » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:31 pm

Personally, I'd let Dez walk and bring back Murray at a reasonable price. Continue to work on the trenches on both sides of the ball and save money for the future. You can find good WRs late in the draft every year. Just look at how Pittsburgh and Green Bay does things.
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Post#14 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:10 am

From what I have been hearing the past few days, I'm beginning to get a very bad feeling about this situation with Dez. Do any of you get the feeling protecting Murray is the much safer investment?
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Post#15 » by Jarntt » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:52 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:From what I have been hearing the past few days, I'm beginning to get a very bad feeling about this situation with Dez. Do any of you get the feeling protecting Murray is the much safer investment?


there is no doubt Murray is the SAFER investment. I think the issue is that RBs are in general easier to replace and cheaper to replace. Dez has superstar potential and that's why we put up with all of his antics.

Kind of a Sad indictment on the NFL that Murray should have been the NFL MVP, is a class guy, a team first player that constantly gave credit to his OL and others around him and it truly the "right kind of guy", is a true workhorse and 3 down back and a great football player...yet we are more concerned about giving double the contract to Dez.
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Re: Jerry on Dez 

Post#16 » by Schmoopy1000 » Tue Mar 3, 2015 11:50 pm

Cowboys assigned the franchise tag to WR Dez Bryant.
It's a one-year, $12.823 million tender. The sides now have until July 15 to work toward a long-term agreement. Bryant has expressed displeasure at the prospect of being tagged, and won't be in a hurry to sign. The Cowboys appear to have genuine interest in getting Bryant locked up, while owner/GM Jerry Jones has always been loath to let his stars walk. There's a legitimate chance the sides come to an accord sometime over the next four months.

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