What are the Sixers doing?

[Hookshot100]

Top 5 pick + Randle & Kobe back + 2 mid tier FA's (possibly Matthews & a PG or C depending on who they draft) + Houston's pick in the 20's + a few Ed Davis/Nick Young level FA's that they've been getting for minimum along with the few pieces that carry over like Crawford & Young should be more than enough to put the pick in the teens. They don't actually need to pass 7+ teams in the standings considering they're losing on purpose to keep their pick & many of those teams are trying to win. Boston, Detroit, Orlando, Utah, Denver, Sac are 6 bad teams this year that they should pass next year. Not to mention teams like Brooklyn & Phoenix looking like they're heading for a rebuild, Duncan & Dirk possibly being on their way out, the potential for Marc leaving Memphis sending them into tank mode. To say that it's more likely a Lakers team that uses their cap space ends up with pick 4-6 than 10+ is assuming a lot of things go wrong for LA & right for a lot of other teams.

They play in the West. So they're handicapped five games right from the get-go. I like Randle, but he's coming back from an injury. More likely than not he'll be rusty for half a season like Noel. And Kobe? Do you really think he's got anything left. I think it's possible the Lakers will be in the 10-12 range, but more likely closer to five.

[dho4ever]

I've been accused of being a Sixers hater but the hate for the MCW trade is a joke.

Hands down the best trade that Hinkie has done.

That pick is worth a hundred MCW's (who is a limited player with limited upside)

Hinkie did good on this one.

It was probably the best pick he ever traded for. YET...

The main problem I have with Hinkie is he isn't developing players. You select a player and then try to develop him.

When you have nothing, it's not worth developing players who don't have high ceilings. Do you see Michael Carter Williams being good enough to carry an entire team. Role players are worth developing only when you already have some player of the potential of Tim Duncan, Lebron James, or Anthony Davis. If you're best player is MCW, and you're building off of that... you're just going to end up in mediocrity.

[LofJ]

The Lakers will be much improved next year, but outside of signing Marc Gasol they won't be back in the playoffs. That pick will end up being in the 7 to 12 range in my opinion.

[Johnlac1]

I've been accused of being a Sixers hater but the hate for the MCW trade is a joke.

Hands down the best trade that Hinkie has done.

That pick is worth a hundred MCW's (who is a limited player with limited upside)

Hinkie did good on this one.

It was probably the best pick he ever traded for. YET...

The main problem I have with Hinkie is he isn't developing players. You select a player and then try to develop him.

When you have nothing, it's not worth developing players who don't have high ceilings. Do you see Michael Carter Williams being good enough to carry an entire team. Role players are worth developing only when you already have some player of the potential of Tim Duncan, Lebron James, or Anthony Davis. If you're best player is MCW, and you're building off of that... you're just going to end up in mediocrity.

Very few players can carry an entire team. Despite him scoring a ton of points, Michael Jordan's teams were mediocre until he got better help.
As a Bucks fan I'm thanking Hinkie, but the dope had some excellent young talent in MCW and the other guy CJ whatshisname. It's fitting pieces together that makes a great team....not one great star.

[Slava]

The Lakers will be much improved next year, but outside of signing Marc Gasol they won't be back in the playoffs. That pick will end up being in the 7 to 12 range in my opinion.

By all accounts the class of 2016-17 lacks top tier talent so I'm hoping we do not go on win streaks like the one we are on now and keep our pick this season and convey next year to Philly.

[jason bourne]

I've been accused of being a Sixers hater but the hate for the MCW trade is a joke.

Hands down the best trade that Hinkie has done.

That pick is worth a hundred MCW's (who is a limited player with limited upside)

Hinkie did good on this one.

It was probably the best pick he ever traded for. YET...

The main problem I have with Hinkie is he isn't developing players. You select a player and then try to develop him.

When you have nothing, it's not worth developing players who don't have high ceilings. Do you see Michael Carter Williams being good enough to carry an entire team. Role players are worth developing only when you already have some player of the potential of Tim Duncan, Lebron James, or Anthony Davis. If you're best player is MCW, and you're building off of that... you're just going to end up in mediocrity.

You took my context out, but whatever.

I wouldn't say the Sixers have nothing. Prior to the trade, I had MCW, Noel, Covington (nice find), Wroten and Embiid. I wasn't against trading KJM as he got pretty good run to show what he could do. It's better to trade once you develop them and they do not seem to fit.

Hinkie thinks he will hit the home run by drafting a superstar. That's very far and very few in-between like LBJ. The guy who is the CONSENSUS may not be the superstar player. Look at KD, Harden, Paul George, KG, Jordan, etc.

[boomann21]

I've been accused of being a Sixers hater but the hate for the MCW trade is a joke.

Hands down the best trade that Hinkie has done.

That pick is worth a hundred MCW's (who is a limited player with limited upside)

Hinkie did good on this one.

It was probably the best pick he ever traded for. YET...

The main problem I have with Hinkie is he isn't developing players. You select a player and then try to develop him.

Everybody is ecstatic about their selection after the draft. That is, until they see them play. Usually, the player doesn't make the NBA as few have a chance. Guys like Ekpe Udoh or Derrick Williams.

That's where team development comes in. It doesn't always work because they may not develop into what you thought they were going to be, but then you can trade them. Guys like Dion Waiters or Brandon Knight.

MCW is a tall, athletic PG who can pass, play D and score. He needs the right kind of development. The Sixers are not built to do that. They're not even built as a team. Instead, Hinkie judges him based on the mess that is the Sixers.

That is not the straw that broke the camel's back though. Hinkie did get a potentially great pick. What put Hinkie over the top is trying to trade Joel Embiid and saying he'll trade ANYBODY on the team for a pick. That tells me right there that he doesn't have a plan and can't develop picks. The guy is such a fool and should be fired.

MCW is a limited player with limited upside, who wouldn't prefer a top pick over him?

He's tall and he can pass, that's it...cheating for steals isn't playing D much like putting up points on a bad team doesn't make you a scorer.

I'm not a Hinkie fan (so far) but I call a spade a spade and a shovel a shovel.

This was a great trade for Philly.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jason Kidd come into the league without a shot and retired as one of the most prolific three point shooters of all time?

[Foshan]

I've been accused of being a Sixers hater but the hate for the MCW trade is a joke.

Hands down the best trade that Hinkie has done.

That pick is worth a hundred MCW's (who is a limited player with limited upside)

Hinkie did good on this one.

It was probably the best pick he ever traded for. YET...

The main problem I have with Hinkie is he isn't developing players. You select a player and then try to develop him.

Everybody is ecstatic about their selection after the draft. That is, until they see them play. Usually, the player doesn't make the NBA as few have a chance. Guys like Ekpe Udoh or Derrick Williams.

That's where team development comes in. It doesn't always work because they may not develop into what you thought they were going to be, but then you can trade them. Guys like Dion Waiters or Brandon Knight.

MCW is a tall, athletic PG who can pass, play D and score. He needs the right kind of development. The Sixers are not built to do that. They're not even built as a team. Instead, Hinkie judges him based on the mess that is the Sixers.

That is not the straw that broke the camel's back though. Hinkie did get a potentially great pick. What put Hinkie over the top is trying to trade Joel Embiid and saying he'll trade ANYBODY on the team for a pick. That tells me right there that he doesn't have a plan and can't develop picks. The guy is such a fool and should be fired.

Hinkie isn't developing them, but Brown and the coaching staff sure are. If you look at the improvement in this roster of no-bodies it has been amazing over this year. From the team that went entirely defeated at the start of the season to the team before the AS break that was usually competitive and exciting was entirely night and day. Throw stones at the Sixers for lots of things, but not for a lack of player development.

[Elden Payton]

It was probably the best pick he ever traded for. YET...

The main problem I have with Hinkie is he isn't developing players. You select a player and then try to develop him.

Everybody is ecstatic about their selection after the draft. That is, until they see them play. Usually, the player doesn't make the NBA as few have a chance. Guys like Ekpe Udoh or Derrick Williams.

That's where team development comes in. It doesn't always work because they may not develop into what you thought they were going to be, but then you can trade them. Guys like Dion Waiters or Brandon Knight.

MCW is a tall, athletic PG who can pass, play D and score. He needs the right kind of development. The Sixers are not built to do that. They're not even built as a team. Instead, Hinkie judges him based on the mess that is the Sixers.

That is not the straw that broke the camel's back though. Hinkie did get a potentially great pick. What put Hinkie over the top is trying to trade Joel Embiid and saying he'll trade ANYBODY on the team for a pick. That tells me right there that he doesn't have a plan and can't develop picks. The guy is such a fool and should be fired.

MCW is a limited player with limited upside, who wouldn't prefer a top pick over him?

He's tall and he can pass, that's it...cheating for steals isn't playing D much like putting up points on a bad team doesn't make you a scorer.

I'm not a Hinkie fan (so far) but I call a spade a spade and a shovel a shovel.

This was a great trade for Philly.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Jason Kidd come into the league without a shot and retired as one of the most prolific three point shooters of all time?

Kidd is a .349 shooter from long distance, prolific isn't the word to describe it, he had a lot of makes through a lot of attempts from longevity.

[jpengland]

I wish people would stop using Kidd for comparison. Such a rare progression curve as a shooter.

[abark]

I wish people would stop using Kidd for comparison. Such a rare progression curve as a shooter.

Now people can endlessly hold onto hope for guys like Rondo and Rubio because 1 guy did it.

[ComeAtMeBro]

MCW I wouldn't care about but McDaniels would really piss me off if I were a 76ers fan. Why the hell would you make that move?

I had an old sandwich, should have traded it for Covington.

So dumb.

You realize he's an rfa right? He'll attract a penny hinkie doesn't want to pay. So cash out?

If he signed that 4 yr, 2 of which guaranteed type deal...then yes, hinkie would've kept him.

Plus, Canaan is being criminally underrated.

[LloydFree]

Its not happening fast enough for most, but he's rebuilding the structure of the team from the ground up.

He came to a non-playoff team that had one (1) above average NBA player (J'rue Holiday) AND owed 2 of its next 3 1st round picks to Miami and Orlando.

Now he has aquired Joel Embiid, regained his teams' 1st round picks, added 5 additional 1st round draft picks from other teams(Pelicans 2, Heat, Thunder and Lakers) and about 15 2nd rounders. All in a year and a half. I'll take what the team has now, over what they had two years ago any day of the week.

[Johnlac1]

It was probably the best pick he ever traded for. YET...

The main problem I have with Hinkie is he isn't developing players. You select a player and then try to develop him.

When you have nothing, it's not worth developing players who don't have high ceilings. Do you see Michael Carter Williams being good enough to carry an entire team. Role players are worth developing only when you already have some player of the potential of Tim Duncan, Lebron James, or Anthony Davis. If you're best player is MCW, and you're building off of that... you're just going to end up in mediocrity.

You took my context out, but whatever.

I wouldn't say the Sixers have nothing. Prior to the trade, I had MCW, Noel, Covington (nice find), Wroten and Embiid. I wasn't against trading KJM as he got pretty good run to show what he could do. It's better to trade once you develop them and they do not seem to fit.

Hinkie thinks he will hit the home run by drafting a superstar. That's very far and very few in-between like LBJ. The guy who is the CONSENSUS may not be the superstar player. Look at KD, Harden, Paul George, KG, Jordan, etc.

The Sixers were one of the teams that I thought had a strong, young core. With a healthy Embiid next year, Saric coming over the following year, their promising young players (MCW,Noel, McDonough), and the likelihood of picking some more good players in the draft the Sixers looked good for the future.

[Johnlac1]

I wish people would stop using Kidd for comparison. Such a rare progression curve as a shooter.

Now people can endlessly hold onto hope for guys like Rondo and Rubio because 1 guy did it.

So Rondo has had a lousy career? Really?

[Big A All Day]

Sixers gonna sixer

[Sixerscan]

The Lakers will be much improved next year, but outside of signing Marc Gasol they won't be back in the playoffs. That pick will end up being in the 7 to 12 range in my opinion.

By all accounts the class of 2016-17 lacks top tier talent so I'm hoping we do not go on win streaks like the one we are on now and keep our pick this season and convey next year to Philly.

Go Lakers!

[basketball royalty]

MCW I wouldn't care about but McDaniels would really piss me off if I were a 76ers fan. Why the hell would you make that move?

I had an old sandwich, should have traded it for Covington.

So dumb.

You realize he's an rfa right? He'll attract a penny hinkie doesn't want to pay. So cash out?

If he signed that 4 yr, 2 of which guaranteed type deal...then yes, hinkie would've kept him.

Plus, Canaan is being criminally underrated.

So I'm dumb but trading a 2nd rounder that actually pans out is smart? What is the point then? Just hoping your picks suck so they will be affordable?

Good luck but the 76ers team building plans sounds like a damned pyramid scheme. Hinkie is the only dude cashing out for as long as people believe this is actually leading somewhere.

[abark]

I wish people would stop using Kidd for comparison. Such a rare progression curve as a shooter.

Now people can endlessly hold onto hope for guys like Rondo and Rubio because 1 guy did it.

So Rondo has had a lousy career? Really?

Hold out hope on them developing a 3 point shot out of nowhere. That's what we were talking about.

[Unbreakable99]

When you have nothing, it's not worth developing players who don't have high ceilings. Do you see Michael Carter Williams being good enough to carry an entire team. Role players are worth developing only when you already have some player of the potential of Tim Duncan, Lebron James, or Anthony Davis. If you're best player is MCW, and you're building off of that... you're just going to end up in mediocrity.

You took my context out, but whatever.

I wouldn't say the Sixers have nothing. Prior to the trade, I had MCW, Noel, Covington (nice find), Wroten and Embiid. I wasn't against trading KJM as he got pretty good run to show what he could do. It's better to trade once you develop them and they do not seem to fit.

Hinkie thinks he will hit the home run by drafting a superstar. That's very far and very few in-between like LBJ. The guy who is the CONSENSUS may not be the superstar player. Look at KD, Harden, Paul George, KG, Jordan, etc.

The Sixers were one of the teams that I thought had a strong, young core. With a healthy Embiid next year, Saric coming over the following year, their promising young players (MCW,Noel, McDonough), and the likelihood of picking some more good players in the draft the Sixers looked good for the future.

We still do have a good future.