Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33)

[bigfoot]

Nottraxee mentioned in a post that Horny has lost the team and in another post said the front office wished he had a little more discipline with them. Wonder if he if he will get the hook this summer.

[Cutter]

He should stop by this forum and pick up some great coaching advice from some of the experts on this board.

I have no doubt that Honaceck knows more about basketball in his left pinky then I do in all of my brain. Which makes this all the more inexcusable. He must be taking instructions from an ex-scout or a statistical analyst who says three pointers and combo guards are the future of the NBA.

I suspect he is putting the best players on the court that he believes will help us win. He runs plays for these players that maximize their ability to execute on both ends of the floor. I don't think there are many coaches that could get as much out of our players than he has.

This team is very young and inexperienced. I don't think Popavich, Phil Jackson or Rick Carlisle could get anything more out of this group of players.

[RaisingArizona]

Bam dragic showing us up. Good. Maybe McD will learn to hold onto to good players. 5,000 trades a year helps no teams ever

Goran was a bitch and wanted out. He quit on us. What part of that do you not understand?

Goran wanted out of this **** stain of a team

That's fine. I don't care anymore. He's not a Sun anymore so I don't care. All the Gogi fanbois need to find the appropriate Heat board. This isn't the place for them anymore.

[kennydorglas]

haha
this game was really weird from beginning.

idk if i'm good to watch the post-game interviews... something really bad is about to happen.

[Matt1979]

Losing to a sub .500 Eastern team. Bad times.

[denial]

I don't mind frustrated opinions from people I don't see post much, and can understand them. But there are people who post a lot and every single post is about the same thing, day after day, and they for whatever reason either have alzheimers or whatever the case may be, post the same thing daily in almost every thread, even if it doesn't relate to the thread, and it isn't fun to read.

Fair enough. I guess there has been a lot of whining on here lately.

On the positive side, Len has really looked good lately. Why did he get thrown out of the game tonight?

[bwgood77]

I don't mind frustrated opinions from people I don't see post much, and can understand them. But there are people who post a lot and every single post is about the same thing, day after day, and they for whatever reason either have alzheimers or whatever the case may be, post the same thing daily in almost every thread, even if it doesn't relate to the thread, and it isn't fun to read.

Fair enough. I guess there has been a lot of whining on here lately.

On the positive side, Len has really looked good lately. Why did he get thrown out of the game tonight?

Whiteside fouled him hard, and he threw Whiteside on the floor, and then Whiteside tackled him, and they both got ejected.

[KLEON]

I might as well focus on being a Chelsea fan at least they can win titles( Carling Cup)

[RaisingArizona]

I don't mind frustrated opinions from people I don't see post much, and can understand them. But there are people who post a lot and every single post is about the same thing, day after day, and they for whatever reason either have alzheimers or whatever the case may be, post the same thing daily in almost every thread, even if it doesn't relate to the thread, and it isn't fun to read.

Fair enough. I guess there has been a lot of whining on here lately.

On the positive side, Len has really looked good lately. Why did he get thrown out of the game tonight?

Whiteside tackled Len so they threw the both out.

[denial]

He should stop by this forum and pick up some great coaching advice from some of the experts on this board.

I have no doubt that Honaceck knows more about basketball in his left pinky then I do in all of my brain. Which makes this all the more inexcusable. He must be taking instructions from an ex-scout or a statistical analyst who says three pointers and combo guards are the future of the NBA.

I suspect he is putting the best players on the court that he believes will help us win. He runs plays for these players that maximize their ability to execute on both ends of the floor. I don't think there are many coaches that could get as much out of our players than he has.

This team is very young and inexperienced. I don't think Popavich, Phil Jackson or Rick Carlisle could get anything more out of this group of players.

Im not really mad with the productivity. I'm just not happy with the system I see them running. I don't really see "plays". I see a bunch of people standing around and waiting to play hero-ball.

Again, i dont care if we miss every shot. I dont care if we get burned on defense. What I am stressed about is the system. If youth coaches can get kids to play team ball, I don't see why it should be so hard to implement a system that has people (professional basketball players) moving without the ball, passing, slashing, cutting, screening, etc... If we lose like that because we are young, then I am fine.

I can deal with the result. It;s the method that has me stressin.

[HootieRules]

Goran was a bitch and wanted out. He quit on us. What part of that do you not understand?

Goran wanted out of this **** stain of a team

That's fine. I don't care anymore. He's not a Sun anymore so I don't care. All the Gogi fanbois need to find the appropriate Heat board. This isn't the place for them anymore.

Better a Gogi fanboy than a front office apologist

[alldayeveryday]

Nottraxee mentioned in a post that Horny has lost the team and in another post said the front office wished he had a little more discipline with them. Wonder if he if he will get the hook this summer.

Have the thread/post link?

[saintEscaton]

I'll probably be tuning in every other game from here on out just to monitor the development of the youngins and find out whether Knight pans out . Here's to hoping they get consistent minutes

[jeff2020]

I have no doubt that Honaceck knows more about basketball in his left pinky then I do in all of my brain. Which makes this all the more inexcusable. He must be taking instructions from an ex-scout or a statistical analyst who says three pointers and combo guards are the future of the NBA.

I suspect he is putting the best players on the court that he believes will help us win. He runs plays for these players that maximize their ability to execute on both ends of the floor. I don't think there are many coaches that could get as much out of our players than he has.

This team is very young and inexperienced. I don't think Popavich, Phil Jackson or Rick Carlisle could get anything more out of this group of players.

Im not really mad with the productivity. I'm just not happy with the system I see them running. I don't really see "plays". I see a bunch of people standing around and waiting to play hero-ball.

Again, i dont care if we miss every shot. I dont care if we get burned on defense. What I am stressed about is the system. If youth coaches can get kids to play team ball, I don't see why it should be so hard to implement a system that has people moving without the ball, passing, slashing, cutting, screening, etc... If we lose like that because we are young, then I am fine.

I can deal with the result. It;s the method that has me stressin.

Our offense is basically like watching pickup basketball games except we screen more on and off the ball. So actually we have more movement then the Suns do lol. We are so young and athletic that if we play with movement and swing the ball few teams could hang with us. Be honest with yourself and think about how many times we passed the ball 3+ times in a possession not to mention even swing the ball from one side to another.

[Jdiddy701]

Guys, it's very hard being a Suns fan. Always love them no matter what but man it's difficult.


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[RaisingArizona]

Goran wanted out of this **** stain of a team

That's fine. I don't care anymore. He's not a Sun anymore so I don't care. All the Gogi fanbois need to find the appropriate Heat board. This isn't the place for them anymore.

Better a Gogi fanboy than a front office apologist

Bye, then!

[Frank Lee]

Nottraxee mentioned in a post that Horny has lost the team and in another post said the front office wished he had a little more discipline with them. Wonder if he if he will get the hook this summer.

You going to fire the carpenter because the blueprints are bad? I don't think so. If they made a coaching change, they'd have to get a top notcher... and other than JVG, who is out there?

Over and Under for new players next yr ? 5 1/2

[Sunsss]

Nottraxee mentioned in a post that Horny has lost the team and in another post said the front office wished he had a little more discipline with them. Wonder if he if he will get the hook this summer.

I think he gave up on the game after Len got ejected. Playing with no centers. Stupidity of the team might have caused that.

[Cutter]

I have no doubt that Honaceck knows more about basketball in his left pinky then I do in all of my brain. Which makes this all the more inexcusable. He must be taking instructions from an ex-scout or a statistical analyst who says three pointers and combo guards are the future of the NBA.

I suspect he is putting the best players on the court that he believes will help us win. He runs plays for these players that maximize their ability to execute on both ends of the floor. I don't think there are many coaches that could get as much out of our players than he has.

This team is very young and inexperienced. I don't think Popavich, Phil Jackson or Rick Carlisle could get anything more out of this group of players.

Im not really mad with the productivity. I'm just not happy with the system I see them running. I don't really see "plays". I see a bunch of people standing around and waiting to play hero-ball.

Again, i dont care if we miss every shot. I dont care if we get burned on defense. What I am stressed about is the system. If youth coaches can get kids to play team ball, I don't see why it should be so hard to implement a system that has people (professional basketball players) moving without the ball, passing, slashing, cutting, screening, etc... If we lose like that because we are young, then I am fine.

I can deal with the result. It;s the method that has me stressin.

I agree completely with this. Nice post. Something is definitely wrong with this team and the style of ball being played. Part of me says its just the youth on the team not coming together yet, and another part of me says there is bigger problem.

Even if this team gets another year together under their belt I'm just not sure if this is going to work going forward.

[tdjm]

I was cautiously optimistic about the Brandon Knight trade, but I think I've moved into being pissed off about it.

I was thrilled with the Dragic and Thomas trades, even if I wouldn't have minded keeping Thomas for 1 or 2 more years. It really felt like the front office was committing to finding players who play defense and changing the identity of the team. Led by Bledsoe and Len, we were going to re-invent the Suns with a bunch of plus defenders.

Jokes on me. We went and traded for Brandon Knight, who is either apathetic or ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. I just don't understand how he hasn't been able to even pretend to stay in front of his man since he came here. I can forgive him for making bad passes, taking bad shots, missing rotations - that's all to be expected when you come to a new system.

I just can't forgive him for not playing any defense at all. Staying in front of your man is independent of any system, any team, any coach out there. Worse, he leads the reserves who don't play any defense at all either, so we just see record breaking second quarters and scrub guards eviscerating us night after night now. Just brutal. I hope they can coach him up into something remotely respectable, or these are going to be a long 4 years.