Game 61: Phoenix Suns (31-29) @ Miami Heat (25-33)

[Cutter]

Nottraxee mentioned in a post that Horny has lost the team and in another post said the front office wished he had a little more discipline with them. Wonder if he if he will get the hook this summer.

You going to fire the carpenter because the blueprints are bad? I don't think so. If they made a coaching change, they'd have to get a top notcher... and other than JVG, who is out there?

Over and Under for new players next yr ? 5 1/2

Thib's could be available out of Chicago next year. He should be a hot commodity if he hits the market.

If we got an intense no nonsense defensive coach like him we would have to trade half the team since they couldn't make his roster.

[saintEscaton]

I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be at the top of Thib's list of preference. We would need a complete personnel overhaul over a single offseason

[Frank Lee]

Former Suns drop 16 on us in the 4th

Hornecek at a loss in his postgamer. Calling us a high school team. Now TC saying buck up boys.


Going to be a chilly road trip

[letsgosuns]

Hornacek is complaining about how soft the team looks now in the post game. Well a team takes after its coach Mr. Hornacek. Here is the difference between a coach that has a backbone and does not put up with any garbage from his players and a coach that has zero respect from his players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mO48ds7q0U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOn4sg_5AfY

[nevetsov]

^ the players know they don't have to follow shots or move without the ball, because they know they won't be reprimanded at all for not doing so. This team has a rotational pecking order and Horny sticks to it irrespective of matchups or positions.

How long did that "get a tech and sit" rule last? Marcus picked one up and played pretty much the whole fourth quarter, out of position while Wright and Barron sat. No wonder they don't respect the coach.

[KLEON]

Guys, it's very hard being a Suns fan. Always love them no matter what but man it's difficult.


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[JTrain]

This f***ing season.

[RunDogGun]

Losing to a sub .500 Eastern team. Bad times.

It didn't help that our two best players in the first half were ejected for no reason. Morris's foul was not a flagrant two. Any moron watching the replay can see that Goran's right arm caused Morris to come down on his head. Flagrant one maybe. Len? What the heck. Whiteside, purposely came down on Len's head, and Len pushes him off of him. Whiteside turns and tackles Len. Absolutely ridiculous. And that doesn't even account for the touch to tackle foul differential, pun intended.

Now we totally made bad passes, and missed free throws, which is unexceptable, but once again Suns get screwed by the officials. I will keep pointing it out until everyone sees it.

[Sunsss]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MikeSGallagher/status/572604329867128832[/tweet]

[Sunsdeuce]

I guess it's safe to say this team has rock bottom. You can add us fans to that rock bottom. Depressing as a fan because you put so much emotion into a team and your left with what we currently see. Good news it can't possibly get worse. Got a feeling quite a few players will be gone in the off season as well as possibly the coach.

[saintEscaton]

Did Wright even play tonight? When Len went out why did he not fill in as center?

[RunDogGun]

^ the players know they don't have to follow shots or move without the ball, because they know they won't be reprimanded at all for not doing so. This team has a rotational pecking order and Horny sticks to it irrespective of matchups or positions.

How long did that "get a tech and sit" rule last? Marcus picked one up and played pretty much the whole fourth quarter, out of position while Wright and Barron sat. No wonder they don't respect the coach.

I think the rule was arguing with the ref. Morris did the same thing Wade did later in the game, yet Morris got a tech, and Wade did not. They both just yelled after the foul was called, it wasn't an argument. Well Wade kept after the ref a bit, but I guess he is a star.

[Jdiddy701]

I guess it's safe to say this team has rock bottom. You can add us fans to that rock bottom. Depressing as a fan because you put so much emotion into a team and your left with what we currently see. Good news it can't possibly get worse. Got a feeling quite a few players will be gone in the off season as well as possibly the coach.

Agreed.. It's at a point where do what's right for the team and trade anyone but Len.


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[bwgood77]

Hornacek is complaining about how soft the team looks now in the post game. Well a team takes after its coach Mr. Hornacek. Here is the difference between a coach that has a backbone and does not put up with any garbage from his players and a coach that has zero respect from his players.

They are certainly not taking after Hornacek, who was about as hard nosed and smart of a player there was. The problem is we have a bunch of idiots who can't be disciplined regardless of the coach. He tried sitting guys and people complained about that.

[nevetsov]

Lol at Horny calling the team out for playing soft... Here's a thought coach - if you want the team to play tough, how about not playing 2 PGs, a SG and 2 SFs and expecting them to protect the paint and rebound against Haslem and Chris freaking Anderson.

[RunDogGun]

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It's true. We let the refs and other teams take us out of our game. It has the players pissed off all season. I think Jeff thinks it was a tougher league when he was playing, so he thinks the players should just take their lumps and move on.

I totally understand that tough love thinking, but it's bull to me that one team is allowed to be more physical, and then they call touch fouls on the team already getting knocked around. To me, it's pouring salt in the wound. The leagues a joke.

[Matt1979]

Losing to a sub .500 Eastern team. Bad times.

It didn't help that our two best players in the first half were ejected for no reason. Morris's foul was not a flagrant two. Any moron watching the replay can see that Goran's right arm caused Morris to come down on his head. Flagrant one maybe. Len? What the heck. Whiteside, purposely came down on Len's head, and Len pushes him off of him. Whiteside turns and tackles Len. Absolutely ridiculous. And that doesn't even account for the touch to tackle foul differential, pun intended.

Now we totally made bad passes, and missed free throws, which is unexceptable, but once again Suns get screwed by the officials. I will keep pointing it out until everyone sees it.

Not disagreeing on any of your points but weren't we already losing at that point?

The refs are awful to the Suns but they can't be blamed for complete lack of effort by 90% of the team and poor coaching.

The team has no likeable players with any personality and a coach who seems clueless and passionless

[Jdiddy701]

Warren, Morris Twins, Knight, and 1st rounder for Paul George. Pacers can't say no to that.


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[Sunsdeuce]

I guess it's safe to say this team has rock bottom. You can add us fans to that rock bottom. Depressing as a fan because you put so much emotion into a team and your left with what we currently see. Good news it can't possibly get worse. Got a feeling quite a few players will be gone in the off season as well as possibly the coach.

Agreed.. It's at a point where do what's right for the team and trade anyone but Len.


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I don't mind the Suns having a bad team but I do have a MAjOR problem when the team is bad and in major turmoil. Turmoil caused franchises to go under (not saying it will happen and that's extreme).

I'm just depressed to see such a proud franchise with such a rich history to be in the gutter.

[Saberestar]

Hornacek is complaining about how soft the team looks now in the post game. Well a team takes after its coach Mr. Hornacek. Here is the difference between a coach that has a backbone and does not put up with any garbage from his players and a coach that has zero respect from his players.

They are certainly not taking after Hornacek, who was about as hard nosed and smart of a player there was. The problem is we have a bunch of idiots who can't be disciplined regardless of the coach. He tried sitting guys and people complained about that.

Then, we have to trade the "idiots" guys, not the smart guys. MoBros and Green needs to go ASAP. They are like children, and intelligent like a **** rinoceront at most.