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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#161 » by HeartBreakKid » Sun Mar 1, 2015 2:39 am

Fischella wrote:
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Fischella wrote:Is not a perfect comp but I would say Pau Gasol for Towns.
Okafor is more like a Center version of Chris Webber than Jefferson, maybe not that athletic vertically, but similar hands, moves, pass, Webber develop nicely as a shooter, like Jahlil will.


I was thinking more Marc Gasol for Towns.

Ey... exactly how?


Big upper body like Marc Gasol, I think he can be a strong player when he matures. The way he scores, I think his aggression is a bit more toward like Marc as well, he isn't looking for his shot as tenaciously as a player like Pau. Also, I think defensively he will be more comparable to Marc than Pau.
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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#162 » by E-Balla » Sun Mar 1, 2015 3:36 am

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HeartBreakKid wrote:I was thinking more Marc Gasol for Towns.

Ey... exactly how?


Big upper body like Marc Gasol, I think he can be a strong player when he matures. The way he scores, I think his aggression is a bit more toward like Marc as well, he isn't looking for his shot as tenaciously as a player like Pau. Also, I think defensively he will be more comparable to Marc than Pau.

Marc also has a big lower body unlike Towns. Towns is also a fast athlete and he doesn't have a great power or post game.
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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#163 » by ALL HAIL » Sun Mar 1, 2015 4:30 am

Chazzle94 wrote:Hey guys, coming from Aus I don't really get to see many college games. I watch games when I can and stream the occasional one. So really I haven't really had the opportunity to see Jah or Towns play. I was just wondering who in the NBA is a good comparison for the two of them? I have read a lot of Big Al comps for Jah, but none really for Towns.. So if someone could shed a bit of light on the matter, that would be great. Cheers in advance!

Okafor reminds me of Brad Daugherty.

Towns reminds me of Roy Tarpley.
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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#164 » by No-Man » Sun Mar 1, 2015 9:59 am

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HeartBreakKid wrote:
I was thinking more Marc Gasol for Towns.

Ey... exactly how?


Big upper body like Marc Gasol, I think he can be a strong player when he matures. The way he scores, I think his aggression is a bit more toward like Marc as well, he isn't looking for his shot as tenaciously as a player like Pau. Also, I think defensively he will be more comparable to Marc than Pau.

Marc Gasol has a strong lower body and nimble, quick feet, Towns has nothing of that.
Neither Marc Gasol, until this year maybe, or Towns are aggressive post players or scorers, Gasol always post from inside to outside and shoots the ball.
Towns has no moves or touch that will work at the pros yet, he is more of a face-up big, like Pau.
Defensively he has not the tools that Marc Gasol does.
Actually Okafor is much more similar to Marc Gasol, although a Jahlil is a much better offensive player and a better athlete.
Towns is not a defensive prospect, at all.
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Post#165 » by hiphop1 » Sun Mar 1, 2015 3:14 pm

I still think Cauley-Stein is going to be a force on the Defensive end. DPOY candidate for years. If he is there you pick him.
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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#166 » by E-Balla » Sun Mar 1, 2015 6:45 pm

Fischella wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:
Fischella wrote:Ey... exactly how?


Big upper body like Marc Gasol, I think he can be a strong player when he matures. The way he scores, I think his aggression is a bit more toward like Marc as well, he isn't looking for his shot as tenaciously as a player like Pau. Also, I think defensively he will be more comparable to Marc than Pau.

Marc Gasol has a strong lower body and nimble, quick feet, Towns has nothing of that.
Neither Marc Gasol, until this year maybe, or Towns are aggressive post players or scorers, Gasol always post from inside to outside and shoots the ball.
Towns has no moves or touch that will work at the pros yet, he is more of a face-up big, like Pau.
Defensively he has not the tools that Marc Gasol does.
Actually Okafor is much more similar to Marc Gasol, although a Jahlil is a much better offensive player and a better athlete.
Towns is not a defensive prospect, at all.

You seriously believe this? He's the best defender on the best NCAA defense ever. If anything that's the one part of his game that will translate perfectly.
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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#167 » by ColdBlooded » Sun Mar 1, 2015 7:25 pm

E-Balla wrote:
Fischella wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:
Big upper body like Marc Gasol, I think he can be a strong player when he matures. The way he scores, I think his aggression is a bit more toward like Marc as well, he isn't looking for his shot as tenaciously as a player like Pau. Also, I think defensively he will be more comparable to Marc than Pau.

Marc Gasol has a strong lower body and nimble, quick feet, Towns has nothing of that.
Neither Marc Gasol, until this year maybe, or Towns are aggressive post players or scorers, Gasol always post from inside to outside and shoots the ball.
Towns has no moves or touch that will work at the pros yet, he is more of a face-up big, like Pau.
Defensively he has not the tools that Marc Gasol does.
Actually Okafor is much more similar to Marc Gasol, although a Jahlil is a much better offensive player and a better athlete.
Towns is not a defensive prospect, at all.

You seriously believe this? He's the best defender on the best NCAA defense ever. If anything that's the one part of his game that will translate perfectly.



Fisch says some dumb chit when it comes to Towns. For example : Earlier in the season he actually said he doesn't know how his upside is any higher than UK big Marcus Lee.


He's been downplaying him all season.
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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#168 » by Justwar » Mon Mar 2, 2015 6:27 am

Fisch is a afam school fan and has blind hate to UK players it's pretty obvious.
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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#169 » by DickGrayson » Mon Mar 2, 2015 10:16 pm

Fischella wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:
Fischella wrote:Ey... exactly how?


Big upper body like Marc Gasol, I think he can be a strong player when he matures. The way he scores, I think his aggression is a bit more toward like Marc as well, he isn't looking for his shot as tenaciously as a player like Pau. Also, I think defensively he will be more comparable to Marc than Pau.

Marc Gasol has a strong lower body and nimble, quick feet, Towns has nothing of that.
Neither Marc Gasol, until this year maybe, or Towns are aggressive post players or scorers, Gasol always post from inside to outside and shoots the ball.
Towns has no moves or touch that will work at the pros yet, he is more of a face-up big, like Pau.
Defensively he has not the tools that Marc Gasol does.
Actually Okafor is much more similar to Marc Gasol, although a Jahlil is a much better offensive player and a better athlete.
Towns is not a defensive prospect, at all.



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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#170 » by beans-boy » Tue Mar 3, 2015 9:21 pm

Sorry but towns doesn't look like a #1 pick.. Looks like Kwame Brown
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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#171 » by ColdBlooded » Tue Mar 3, 2015 9:49 pm

beans-boy wrote:Sorry but towns doesn't look like a #1 pick.. Looks like Kwame Brown



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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#172 » by Negrodamus » Wed Mar 4, 2015 7:00 am

ColdBlooded wrote:
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Fischella wrote:Marc Gasol has a strong lower body and nimble, quick feet, Towns has nothing of that.
Neither Marc Gasol, until this year maybe, or Towns are aggressive post players or scorers, Gasol always post from inside to outside and shoots the ball.
Towns has no moves or touch that will work at the pros yet, he is more of a face-up big, like Pau.
Defensively he has not the tools that Marc Gasol does.
Actually Okafor is much more similar to Marc Gasol, although a Jahlil is a much better offensive player and a better athlete.
Towns is not a defensive prospect, at all.

You seriously believe this? He's the best defender on the best NCAA defense ever. If anything that's the one part of his game that will translate perfectly.



Fisch says some dumb chit when it comes to Towns. For example : Earlier in the season he actually said he doesn't know how his upside is any higher than UK big Marcus Lee.


He's been downplaying him all season.


Wut? If he really believes that, then his opinion should never be valued when it comes to draft prospects.
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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#173 » by ColdBlooded » Wed Mar 4, 2015 7:06 am

Negrodamus wrote:
ColdBlooded wrote:
E-Balla wrote:You seriously believe this? He's the best defender on the best NCAA defense ever. If anything that's the one part of his game that will translate perfectly.



Fisch says some dumb chit when it comes to Towns. For example : Earlier in the season he actually said he doesn't know how his upside is any higher than UK big Marcus Lee.


He's been downplaying him all season.


Wut? If he really believes that, then his opinion should never be valued when it comes to draft prospects.



Fischella wrote:Okafor can be DeMarcus Cousins with a post game and a head between the shoulders, or a bigger version of Jefferson, better finisher/scoring Marc Gasol, if he improves as a defender.

Towns potential is not much higher than that, he is not a great athlete, he is long and big, he has skill, but hes not quick or fast, nor play that hard all the time, you wont see him demanding the ball downlow and getting advantage of his size that often.

I like him as a Center prospect if he matures as one, if he keeps his game outside, I dont really think he is a better prospect than Jahlil.

I dont know about Towns having clearly more potential than Marcus Lee for example.
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Post#174 » by Negrodamus » Wed Mar 4, 2015 3:07 pm

ColdBlooded wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
ColdBlooded wrote:

Fisch says some dumb chit when it comes to Towns. For example : Earlier in the season he actually said he doesn't know how his upside is any higher than UK big Marcus Lee.


He's been downplaying him all season.


Wut? If he really believes that, then his opinion should never be valued when it comes to draft prospects.



Fischella wrote:Okafor can be DeMarcus Cousins with a post game and a head between the shoulders, or a bigger version of Jefferson, better finisher/scoring Marc Gasol, if he improves as a defender.

Towns potential is not much higher than that, he is not a great athlete, he is long and big, he has skill, but hes not quick or fast, nor play that hard all the time, you wont see him demanding the ball downlow and getting advantage of his size that often.

I like him as a Center prospect if he matures as one, if he keeps his game outside, I dont really think he is a better prospect than Jahlil.

I dont know about Towns having clearly more potential than Marcus Lee for example.


As a diehard UK fan, that is the most ludicrous statement I've heard about the team all year (And there have been a lot).
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Post#175 » by Ruzious » Wed Mar 4, 2015 3:31 pm

Still, if Marcus Lee could shoot even a little bit, he'd be a heckuva prospect.
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Post#176 » by No-Man » Wed Mar 4, 2015 4:27 pm

Ruzious wrote:Still, if Marcus Lee could shoot even a little bit, he'd be a heckuva prospect.

That quote is before the season started and before I actually had a bigger assesment on Lee, I thought he didnt have that lack of touch, not even shoot, just touch around the basket/rim.
Of course my impression changed and I have Towns much higher now.
People just think you cant back down on your opinions if you are wrong for some reason.
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Re: Okafor or Towns? Which center is the better pick? 

Post#177 » by Ruzious » Wed Mar 4, 2015 4:33 pm

Fischella wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Still, if Marcus Lee could shoot even a little bit, he'd be a heckuva prospect.

That quote is before the season started and before I actually had a bigger assesment on Lee, I thought he didnt have that lack of touch, not even shoot, just touch around the basket/rim.
Of course my impression changed and I have Towns much higher now.
People just think you cant back down on your opinions if you are wrong for some reason.

I was right there with you on Lee and even moreso. I thought he was a top prospect. He still could be if he works his arse off.
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Post#178 » by Justwar » Thu Mar 5, 2015 3:51 am

Lee being 6'8 hurts him a lot imo
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Post#179 » by ColdBlooded » Thu Mar 5, 2015 4:24 am

Justwar wrote:Lee being 6'8 hurts him a lot imo


Eh, he's 6'9" with a 7'3" wingspan. Good measurements.

He's just a twig with little skill.
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Post#180 » by Justwar » Thu Mar 5, 2015 5:58 pm

With shoes he is. For him to play a role on a nba team he needs to do something on offense.

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