What's with Lin?

[Goudelock]

Where has this consistency come from?

[LApwnd]

Where has this consistency come from?

no longer fears getting traded, wants to ruin our tank for messing up his value

[spaceballer]

Where has this consistency come from?

no longer fears getting traded, wants to ruin our tank for messing up his value

I doubt it He's said in the past that he's inured to such rumors since he's been dealing with cut/trade rumors since his rookie year. He's grateful for trade rumors since it's a step up from the cut rumors that swirled all around him his rookie year at Golden State or being cut over and over again his sophomore year before Linsanity.

I think the consistency has to do more with the fact that Scott is moving further away from Princeton and giving Lin the pacing/spacing and PnR's that he needs. Next season, when Kobe comes back, it'll likely be back to a slow-paced Princeton to preserve his aging legs. So there's likely no future here for Lin. He needs to find a team that plays the way the Lakers are playing right now, which will likely not be how the Lakers will play next season.

If you recall, early in the season, there seemed to be some hints dropped in the interviews that Byron and Lin had differences in opinion about how the team should play to win. They tried it Byron's way for most of the season, and now finally doing it Lin's way when the season's kaput.

Give Lin shooters for spacing, a PnR big, fast young legs that run in transition, and a ball movement offense and he will perform for you. Put him in a slow down stagnant Princeton iso-heavy off-ball role where the opposition can just pack the paint to stop his driving lanes and he becomes lackluster.

It's not like this is news. We saw this even in preseason where he shone best running the PnR with Ed Davis.

[Slava]

If you give a P n R big, shooters and athletes, there's like 20 different PGs in the NBA that could do a job. I do like how he's shooting much better and not running into traps over the last few games, which subsequently limited his turnover issues. May be they worked over it during film sessions when they had the break and say what you want about Byron he's coached his guards very well, the improvement in Clarkson alone is good evidence for it.

[TyCobb]

Lin for coach.

[Danny Darko]

Lin for coach.

of the Nuggets

[Marionettetc]

Where has this consistency come from?

no longer fears getting traded, wants to ruin our tank for messing up his value

I doubt it He's said in the past that he's inured to such rumors since he's been dealing with cut/trade rumors since his rookie year. He's grateful for trade rumors since it's a step up from the cut rumors that swirled all around him his rookie year at Golden State or being cut over and over again his sophomore year before Linsanity.

I think the consistency has to do more with the fact that Scott is moving further away from Princeton and giving Lin the pacing/spacing and PnR's that he needs. Next season, when Kobe comes back, it'll likely be back to a slow-paced Princeton to preserve his aging legs. So there's likely no future here for Lin. He needs to find a team that plays the way the Lakers are playing right now, which will likely not be how the Lakers will play next season.

If you recall, early in the season, there seemed to be some hints dropped in the interviews that Byron and Lin had differences in opinion about how the team should play to win. They tried it Byron's way for most of the season, and now finally doing it Lin's way when the season's kaput.

Give Lin shooters for spacing, a PnR big, fast young legs that run in transition, and a ball movement offense and he will perform for you. Put him in a slow down stagnant Princeton iso-heavy off-ball role where the opposition can just pack the paint to stop his driving lanes and he becomes lackluster.

It's not like this is news. We saw this even in preseason where he shone best running the PnR with Ed Davis.

I thought all you guys got banned from our board?

[spaceballer]

no longer fears getting traded, wants to ruin our tank for messing up his value

I doubt it He's said in the past that he's inured to such rumors since he's been dealing with cut/trade rumors since his rookie year. He's grateful for trade rumors since it's a step up from the cut rumors that swirled all around him his rookie year at Golden State or being cut over and over again his sophomore year before Linsanity.

I think the consistency has to do more with the fact that Scott is moving further away from Princeton and giving Lin the pacing/spacing and PnR's that he needs. Next season, when Kobe comes back, it'll likely be back to a slow-paced Princeton to preserve his aging legs. So there's likely no future here for Lin. He needs to find a team that plays the way the Lakers are playing right now, which will likely not be how the Lakers will play next season.

If you recall, early in the season, there seemed to be some hints dropped in the interviews that Byron and Lin had differences in opinion about how the team should play to win. They tried it Byron's way for most of the season, and now finally doing it Lin's way when the season's kaput.

Give Lin shooters for spacing, a PnR big, fast young legs that run in transition, and a ball movement offense and he will perform for you. Put him in a slow down stagnant Princeton iso-heavy off-ball role where the opposition can just pack the paint to stop his driving lanes and he becomes lackluster.

It's not like this is news. We saw this even in preseason where he shone best running the PnR with Ed Davis.

I thought all you guys got banned from our board?

[TyCobb]

In all seriousness, soft schedule or not (Brooklyn, Boston, Utah, Milwaukee, OKC without Westbrook, and Charlotte without Kemba), he's put up 6 nice games, well 5 out of 6, away game at Utah wasn't good. The best part is the lack of turnovers for me combined with getting to the FT line.

[Goudelock]

I bet that if D'Antoni becomes coach of the Nuggets, Lin's going to Denver.

And does any non-superstar thrive in a stagnant system?

[spaceballer]

If you give a P n R big, shooters and athletes, there's like 20 different PGs in the NBA that could do a job. I do like how he's shooting much better and not running into traps over the last few games, which subsequently limited his turnover issues. May be they worked over it during film sessions when they had the break and say what you want about Byron he's coached his guards very well, the improvement in Clarkson alone is good evidence for it.

I'm glad Clarkson is finally getting the time he needs to develop, instead of being stuck at 3rd string DNP in favor of Ronnie Price. I only wish Randle hadn't gotten hurt. Randle could have been getting the same development treatment that Clarkson is getting right now. With Kobe out, we'd be seeing a Clarkson/Randle lineup that would presage the post-Kobe era. Clarkson's been developing well, especially when you consider he's doing this as a rookie. He's not all there yet, but he's growing.

I agree that having a PG friendly system with PnR big, shooters and athletes, would be conducive to many PG's games. But converseley, an off-ball role in a stagnant iso-heavy offense where the paint in packed would similarly hurt the play of many PGs.

Some of it may also be due to chemistry/trust issues. Remember that Lin started the season without having had a single practice session with the starting lineup. When he passed the ball, he rarely got it back. It would usually end up in a iso-chuck long 2 from whoever he passed it to. During this recent stretch, the ball actually gets back to him after he passes it and they're setting picks to free him up. The recent interview soundbites have Lin saying Byron made changes to the system post-ASB to help Lin's game.

So it's not that Byron couldn't make those changes to free up the Lin you're seeing post-ASB, but that he didn't. Whether it's because he needed a different system for a Kobe-iso centric princeton, or if it's really taken Byron this long to get to know his personnel or conclude that his princeton wasn't working (the princeton failed horribly under Mike Brown).

[TyCobb]

I bet that if D'Antoni becomes coach of the Nuggets, Lin's going to Denver.

And does any non-superstar thrive in a stagnant system?

Jordan Hill?

[spaceballer]

Lin for coach.

Don't give Byron post-traumatic flashbacks to JKidd kicking him off the Nets, unless you want Lin to be DNP-CD forever to help the tank

[TyCobb]

I think Lin signs with the Mavs in the offseason.

[LApwnd]

don't know how or when this resurgence happened but I actually hate it, #1 his improvement is causing us to win games we shouldn't #2 wish he done it sooner before the trade deadline (might gotten something for him even a 2nd rd pick would be fine with me)

[Slava]

Remember that Lin started the season without having had a single practice session with the starting lineup. When he passed the ball, he rarely got it back. It would usually end up in a iso-chuck long 2 from whoever he passed it to. During this recent stretch, the ball actually gets back to him after he passes it and they're setting picks to free him up. The recent interview soundbites have Lin saying Byron made changes to the system post-ASB to help Lin's game.

So it's not that Byron couldn't make those changes to free up the Lin you're seeing post-ASB, but that he didn't. Whether it's because he needed a different system for a Kobe-iso centric princeton, or if it's really taken Byron this long to get to know his personnel or conclude that his princeton wasn't working (the princeton failed horribly under Mike Brown).

Yeah nice underhanded attack on Kobe. The same long twos are still happening even now, except instead of Kobe, its Jordan Hill and Ellington chucking them. Also Lin is not getting the ball back if you watch games, he's just being decisive when he has the ball in the first place.

I don't know what it would take for your brigade to make a single post without treating Scott like dog ****.

[spaceballer]

Remember that Lin started the season without having had a single practice session with the starting lineup. When he passed the ball, he rarely got it back. It would usually end up in a iso-chuck long 2 from whoever he passed it to. During this recent stretch, the ball actually gets back to him after he passes it and they're setting picks to free him up. The recent interview soundbites have Lin saying Byron made changes to the system post-ASB to help Lin's game.

So it's not that Byron couldn't make those changes to free up the Lin you're seeing post-ASB, but that he didn't. Whether it's because he needed a different system for a Kobe-iso centric princeton, or if it's really taken Byron this long to get to know his personnel or conclude that his princeton wasn't working (the princeton failed horribly under Mike Brown).

Yeah nice underhanded attack on Kobe. The same long twos are still happening even now, except instead of Kobe, its Jordan Hill and Ellington chucking them. Also Lin is not getting the ball back if you watch games, he's just being decisive when he has the ball in the first place.

I don't know what it would take for your brigade to make a single post without treating Scott like dog ****.

You realize there were many people who weren't thrilled with Scott's hire right? I actually would have liked to see Madsen because he did a fair job in the summer league and I think rolling the dice on a younger coach would have been better than a retread when you're rebuilding. I'm hoping Madsen is being groomed to take over after Kobe and Byron are gone. I know Madsen demurred somewhat during the coaching search because he didn't think he had enough experience, but in 2 yrs, he'll have that, and he's getting a grounding in analytics since the recent article said the FO was using him as the conduit for that. Scott came from that horrific historic Cavs losing streak. Even when he got to the finals with the Nets, he got kicked out by Kidd and it was questionable how much of that success was due to Byron or if it was due to JKidd on the floor and Lawrence Frank as assistant-turned-head-coach. When I think of Byron's coaching legacy, I think of the Cavs losing streak, not the Finals job with the Nets where he got kicked out by JKidd and Lawrence Frank, though perhaps that's partially due to the recency bias.

And what's with this "your brigade" stuff as if we're all part of a group mind?

I actually thought Kobe played well considering his return from injury and age. But I don't think long 2's are very efficient, regardless of whether it's coming from Kobe or JHill or Boozer or Lin.

I really think there was a missed opportunity here with Kobe, and waste of his skill. Byron should have played Kobe less to preserve his legs (Kobe himself asked for less minutes), and used Kobe in a system where he could have gotten easier shots with ball movement, instead of forcing Kobe to work hard for long 2 iso's or chuck up shots on low efficiency. I'd much rather see Kobe be efficient and contribute in a reduced role to a winning team like Dirk or Duncan, instead of being forced to kill himself till he was out of the season again.

[Slava]

Scott sucks.. Kobe money grab .. no analytics...midrange jumper... *rumble rumble* .. Dirk .. Duncan.. pick and roll ... tank ...

That sums up every post ever made in the past year. Congrats, that's what group mind is.

[spaceballer]

Scott sucks.. Kobe money grab .. no analytics...midrange jumper... *rumble rumble* .. Dirk .. Duncan.. pick and roll ... tank ...

That sums up every post ever made in the past year. Congrats, that's what group mind is.

I'm pretty sure that's not what I posted

[Goudelock]

I bet that if D'Antoni becomes coach of the Nuggets, Lin's going to Denver.

And does any non-superstar thrive in a stagnant system?

Jordan Hill?

Good point. And on the subject of Jordan Hill, why does he take so many one-foot-inside-the-3-point-line jump shots? Why not just take one step back and shoot 3s?