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Jackson or Jennings as pg 

Post#1 » by aad » Thu Mar 5, 2015 4:12 pm

Who would you like as the pg moving forward

I would like to keep jackson hes bigger and stronger and can play better defense im afraid that last month of jennings was a fluke
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Post#2 » by bstein14 » Thu Mar 5, 2015 4:17 pm

Jennings costs $8 million for one season and then he is done so I'm not sure either are our long term solutions. Jackson has shown he's still got a very low BB IQ taking low % shots and he is going to need some work to get where he needs to be. Do I keep Jackson for $36 million over 4 years... of course... would I pay him $48 million over 4... I don't think he's shown he's worth that to Detroit yet.
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Post#3 » by Joe Berry » Thu Mar 5, 2015 4:25 pm

neither?
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Post#4 » by mattao313 » Thu Mar 5, 2015 4:26 pm

not to be that guy but it's a thread like this already.
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Post#5 » by DBC10 » Thu Mar 5, 2015 4:28 pm

So far, I vote neither. Never was a big fan of them both.
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Post#6 » by MotownMadness » Thu Mar 5, 2015 8:36 pm

Yeah not really a fan of either as well
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Post#7 » by sc8581 » Thu Mar 5, 2015 9:09 pm

Dinwiddie? Lol
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Post#8 » by bballnmike » Thu Mar 5, 2015 9:20 pm

Jennings in the little window of post Josh Smith - to pre-injury. Post injury, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post#9 » by npark28 » Thu Mar 5, 2015 9:43 pm

To be honest, Jackson hasn't impressed me too much. Sure he had a good passing game against New Orleans, but I'm just not confident that he can be our point-guard of the future. He really needs to work on his shot selection to begin with and I, at this point would not give him the max contract.

Jennings on the other hand, before he went down with the injury, was playing fantastic basketball. How he'll be when he gets back remains to be seen, but I hope he hasn't lost too much speed and ability- he was playing great.
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Post#10 » by aad » Thu Mar 5, 2015 9:44 pm

Jenning will never be the same coming off that injury I like him as a player but I like jackson size better and I think he can be the better long term

I think jennings will be LA bond if they dont get a pg this summer they wanted him this season
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Post#11 » by Hotmayo » Thu Mar 5, 2015 9:47 pm

Getting Jakckson was a smart move bc hes a talented player under 24 that woudlve never came here in free agency. I thought he played extremely well against NO. 11 assists. Set the tone early scoring 6 straight points in the half court. We had the lead and our second unit lost it. KCP struggled. Caron gave us nothing. Dinwiddie didnt score much. Tolliver missed a few open 3's. Moose struggled. It was a winnable game.
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Post#12 » by aad » Thu Mar 5, 2015 9:47 pm

npark28 wrote:To be honest, Jackson hasn't impressed me too much. Sure he had a good passing game against New Orleans, but I'm just not confident that he can be our point-guard of the future. He really needs to work on his shot selection to begin with and I, at this point would not give him the max contract.

Jennings on the other hand, before he went down with the injury, was playing fantastic basketball. How he'll be when he gets back remains to be seen, but I hope he hasn't lost too much speed and ability- he was playing great.


I dont think jackson will get a max contract I think he turned down that offer cause he didnt wanna be there because he knew he wasnt gonna start with westbrook there
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Post#13 » by theBigLip » Thu Mar 5, 2015 9:56 pm

I think Jackson can still be salvaged. SVG will help him along and I'm not sure what we have as a good alternative.

The timing on Jennings just sucks for him. He is not going to be healthy when we make the Jackson decision, and it may take him most of next year to get his game back. And, he's going to want a big contract.

So unless we win the lottery and take Mudiay, I'm fine with paying RJ some dollars and making him our PG of the future.
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Post#14 » by Hotmayo » Thu Mar 5, 2015 10:10 pm

The trade was right. Its the new lineup that now needs adjusting to fit the new PG.

Monroe does not fit anymore with that lineup and needs to come off the bench. Do that and I think they can be successful in the short term and long term. Continue to stay as is and pretend there isn't an issue there with 2 non shooting bigs and a non shooting PG, and it will likely be a trade that results in only long term success. As in, when they get a stretch 4 in there this summer, then next year they can start winning again. No need to wait til the summer though when you got a Tolliver on the roster already. Make the switch Stan. Who cares about Monroe.
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Post#15 » by MotownMadness » Thu Mar 5, 2015 10:21 pm

Yeah I'm not doubting the trade and would still do it over again if given the chance. Were not contenders or anything right now and we got him for scraps. We haven't seen enough of Reggie to know for sure just how well he can contribute. I just don't like that he can't shoot and he takes bad contested shots that non shooters shouldn't be taking which puts him in that chucking category. If Stan can get through to him to play to his strengths then there's no reason he can't be a Bledsoe or something type of player instead of running around with a Smith type of mentality trying to do things he shouldn't be doing.
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Post#16 » by Hotmayo » Thu Mar 5, 2015 10:30 pm

MotownMadness wrote:Yeah I'm not doubting the trade and would still do it over again if given the chance. Were not contenders or anything right now and we got him for scraps. We haven't seen enough of Reggie to know for sure just how well he can contribute. I just don't like that he can't shoot and he takes bad contested shots that non shooters shouldn't be taking which puts him in that chucking category. If Stan can get through to him to play to his strengths then there's no reason he can't be a Bledsoe or something type of player instead of running around with a Smith type of mentality trying to do things he shouldn't be doing.


Whats interesting is last year he shot 35% from 3. This year its below 30% Im ok with him taking the wide open 3 and the thing about him is he can hit them at key moments in the game, like the 4rth quarter or to get a lead back. If he can be a 35% 3pt shooter career wise then thats pretty good for me. Also, dwayne wade is a below 30% 3pt shooter as well. So, I think reggie can model his game like Dwayne. Reggie can attack the rim more like Dwayne and get more free throws as well. So, Reggie just needs to limit his 3pt shots to 3-4 on average and itll be ok. He shoots really high around the basket and would be ok with him taking like 12 a game at the rim. Again, I'd like to see him draw more fouls to increase his efficiency bc hes a pretty good free throw shooter at 93% this year.
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Post#17 » by MotownMadness » Thu Mar 5, 2015 10:52 pm

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MotownMadness wrote:Yeah I'm not doubting the trade and would still do it over again if given the chance. Were not contenders or anything right now and we got him for scraps. We haven't seen enough of Reggie to know for sure just how well he can contribute. I just don't like that he can't shoot and he takes bad contested shots that non shooters shouldn't be taking which puts him in that chucking category. If Stan can get through to him to play to his strengths then there's no reason he can't be a Bledsoe or something type of player instead of running around with a Smith type of mentality trying to do things he shouldn't be doing.


Whats interesting is last year he shot 35% from 3. This year its below 30% Im ok with him taking the wide open 3 and the thing about him is he can hit them at key moments in the game, like the 4rth quarter or to get a lead back. If he can be a 35% 3pt shooter career wise then thats pretty good for me. Also, dwayne wade is a below 30% 3pt shooter as well. So, I think reggie can model his game like Dwayne. Reggie can attack the rim more like Dwayne and get more free throws as well. So, Reggie just needs to limit his 3pt shots to 3-4 on average and itll be ok. He shoots really high around the basket and would be ok with him taking like 12 a game at the rim. Again, I'd like to see him draw more fouls to increase his efficiency bc hes a pretty good free throw shooter at 93% this year.

I wouldn't be comparing him to greats like D Wade because that's just ridiculous. He did shoot 34% from 3 last year and has shown here he can knock down a open 3 but it's still not a strong suit of his seeing as he's a career 28% 3pt shooter. I'm not ragging him for his time here yet because that would be unfair given we are a young team and he just got here. The kid is athletic with a huge wingspan and can get to the rim. That's what I want from him and could care less if he only avg's 5-6 apg as long as he's not taking dumb shots.
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Post#18 » by ImHeisenberg » Thu Mar 5, 2015 10:55 pm

How can anyone reasonably ask this question?

There's too many unknowns. Jennings pre-injury is definitely better than Reggie Jackson today. But, does Jackson make the same leap playing another season under SVG like Jennings did?

Their best bet is to try and retain both players and see who's better.
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Post#19 » by Hotmayo » Thu Mar 5, 2015 11:07 pm

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MotownMadness wrote:Yeah I'm not doubting the trade and would still do it over again if given the chance. Were not contenders or anything right now and we got him for scraps. We haven't seen enough of Reggie to know for sure just how well he can contribute. I just don't like that he can't shoot and he takes bad contested shots that non shooters shouldn't be taking which puts him in that chucking category. If Stan can get through to him to play to his strengths then there's no reason he can't be a Bledsoe or something type of player instead of running around with a Smith type of mentality trying to do things he shouldn't be doing.


Whats interesting is last year he shot 35% from 3. This year its below 30% Im ok with him taking the wide open 3 and the thing about him is he can hit them at key moments in the game, like the 4rth quarter or to get a lead back. If he can be a 35% 3pt shooter career wise then thats pretty good for me. Also, dwayne wade is a below 30% 3pt shooter as well. So, I think reggie can model his game like Dwayne. Reggie can attack the rim more like Dwayne and get more free throws as well. So, Reggie just needs to limit his 3pt shots to 3-4 on average and itll be ok. He shoots really high around the basket and would be ok with him taking like 12 a game at the rim. Again, I'd like to see him draw more fouls to increase his efficiency bc hes a pretty good free throw shooter at 93% this year.

I wouldn't be comparing him to greats like D Wade because that's just ridiculous. He did shoot 34% from 3 last year and has shown here he can knock down a open 3 but it's still not a strong suit of his seeing as he's a career 28% 3pt shooter. I'm not ragging him for his time here yet because that would be unfair given we are a young team and he just got here. The kid is athletic with a huge wingspan and can get to the rim. That's what I want from him and could care less if he only avg's 5-6 apg as long as he's not taking dumb shots.


There games are similar. He also plays like westbrook, tony parker, harden, and any other player that has the ability to score in the paint with ease. He just needs to get more free throw attempts to increase the efficiency. Its not that far of a stretch. Hes capable of becoming a 22ppg scorer with 5reb and 5 assist averages at the point guard is really good. He needs lots to happen like more time with the team to practice, so next year he will much better. He also needs perimeter players. When you look at Miami under SVG he used shag and dwade in the pick n roll with shooters all around. SVG is trying to build the same concept with drummond and reggie.
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Post#20 » by MotownMadness » Thu Mar 5, 2015 11:10 pm

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Whats interesting is last year he shot 35% from 3. This year its below 30% Im ok with him taking the wide open 3 and the thing about him is he can hit them at key moments in the game, like the 4rth quarter or to get a lead back. If he can be a 35% 3pt shooter career wise then thats pretty good for me. Also, dwayne wade is a below 30% 3pt shooter as well. So, I think reggie can model his game like Dwayne. Reggie can attack the rim more like Dwayne and get more free throws as well. So, Reggie just needs to limit his 3pt shots to 3-4 on average and itll be ok. He shoots really high around the basket and would be ok with him taking like 12 a game at the rim. Again, I'd like to see him draw more fouls to increase his efficiency bc hes a pretty good free throw shooter at 93% this year.

I wouldn't be comparing him to greats like D Wade because that's just ridiculous. He did shoot 34% from 3 last year and has shown here he can knock down a open 3 but it's still not a strong suit of his seeing as he's a career 28% 3pt shooter. I'm not ragging him for his time here yet because that would be unfair given we are a young team and he just got here. The kid is athletic with a huge wingspan and can get to the rim. That's what I want from him and could care less if he only avg's 5-6 apg as long as he's not taking dumb shots.


There games are similar. He also plays like westbrook, tony parker, harden, and any other player that has the ability to score in the paint with ease. He just needs to get more free throw attempts to increase the efficiency. Its not that far of a stretch. Hes capable of becoming a 22ppg scorer with 5reb and 5 assist averages at the point guard is really good. He needs lots to happen like more time with the team to practice, so next year he will much better. He also needs perimeter players. When you look at Miami under SVG he used shag and dwade in the pick n roll with shooters all around. SVG is trying to build the same concept with drummond and reggie.

I don't see anywhere near that kind of potential. Maybe at breaking down a defense but those guys can stop on a dime and knock down a fadeaway as to where Reggie is once on the move is either banking on a floater or a wild circus shot. He's got nowhere near the type of talent as those players.

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