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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#361 » by Saberestar » Fri Mar 6, 2015 1:54 am

1UPZ wrote:If Suns ever gets Draymond Green... I'd move the Morris twins as fast as possible.
Make Tucker and Draymond interchangeable around the SF/PF position... both play good defense, hustles, grab boards, creates space and are not ISO players.

Then offer Danny Green a contract also.
Unfortunately it means letting Gerald Green and Marcus Thornton go (or fortunately for some).

C: Len / Wright
PF: Green / Tucker
SF: Tucker / Warren / Tucker
SG: Knight / Green
PG: Bledsoe / Goodwin

if Suns can get Cousins for Morris twins OR Len, Knight, picks that would be great too.

But the key is having a very defensive, energetic, versatile forward combination....

I really like this team, it would be great to sign both Green (Daymon and Danny).They are team's players, good defenders, great shooters and, most importantly, they have a good basketball's IQ.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#362 » by Revived » Fri Mar 6, 2015 1:55 am

I wish Nash wasn't injured this season, we could have maybe done what Minnesota did for KG and trade for him so he can retire having last played for the Suns.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#363 » by Kjdills13 » Fri Mar 6, 2015 2:31 am

Why does green have to play PF? I personally think him and Kief on the court at the same time would be good. It wouldn't allow people to put a sg on our sf position in order to get a longer player on bledsoe.

I think a problem we have now is people are taking there sg playing them on tucker then putting there long #1 defender on bledsoe. Up grading the sf position will prevent teams from doing that which will help our offense drastically
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#364 » by RunDogGun » Fri Mar 6, 2015 2:43 am

Kjdills13 wrote:Why does green have to play PF? I personally think him and Kief on the court at the same time would be good. It wouldn't allow people to put a sg on our sf position in order to get a longer player on bledsoe.

I think a problem we have now is people are taking there sg playing them on tucker then putting there long #1 defender on bledsoe. Up grading the sf position will prevent teams from doing that which will help our offense drastically

So you want to "upgrade" our sf spot offensively with a guy that is shooting worse in every category than the guy we currently have? :crazy:
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#365 » by bwgood77 » Fri Mar 6, 2015 2:44 am

I doubt Green leaves GS. Why would he if they pay him? Warren will be a solid SF for the future I think.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#366 » by bwgood77 » Fri Mar 6, 2015 2:45 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:I find it strange that some of the same people that want to see more Warren, and think he will be a star, also want us to get SFs Ike Harris. :o

Tucker has been playing like a stud for a few games now, pretty much back to the guy we had last year. All the effort, and he doesn't take shots out of other guys hands.

If we trade the MoBros, we better be getting a super stud in return. Love them or hate them, they put up numbers, and bring toughness that we've lacked for years.


This. If Warren and Archie are our future stars, then adding a SF or SG is not the best use of funds. Look to solidify the PF/C spot by adding more bulk and rebounding.


I agree with both of you, though I am skeptical on Archie becoming a star.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#367 » by MrMiyagi » Fri Mar 6, 2015 3:01 am

bwgood77 wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:I find it strange that some of the same people that want to see more Warren, and think he will be a star, also want us to get SFs Ike Harris. :o

Tucker has been playing like a stud for a few games now, pretty much back to the guy we had last year. All the effort, and he doesn't take shots out of other guys hands.

If we trade the MoBros, we better be getting a super stud in return. Love them or hate them, they put up numbers, and bring toughness that we've lacked for years.


This. If Warren and Archie are our future stars, then adding a SF or SG is not the best use of funds. Look to solidify the PF/C spot by adding more bulk and rebounding.


I agree with both of you, though I am skeptical on Archie becoming a star.

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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#368 » by toucansma » Fri Mar 6, 2015 3:01 am

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toucansma wrote:I mentioned in the other thread that I met Babby and McD at the Orlando game tonight (sat not too far from them). Both were very nice and we made brief small talk. I did mention to McD that they should get Tobias Harris (who started off fast then tailed off during the game) next year and he basically said something to the effect of yes that would be good. Obviously they won't reveal their plans to a casual fan, but I thought it was still a pretty cool acknowledgement! :-)


That's sick! I'm jealous. Where were they sitting?


I was probably quite an annoyance to them. They were cool about it though. Babby seemed flustered though about something. They were sitting about 10 rows up from behind the visitors bench. They were only recognized by one other group of fans. They thanked me for supporting the team and said they are probably better liked in Florida right now than Phoenix. :-)
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Post#369 » by toucansma » Fri Mar 6, 2015 3:06 am

With Tobias Harris's size he found play along Warren as a stretch 4 sometimes.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#370 » by toucansma » Fri Mar 6, 2015 3:07 am

With Tobias Harris's size he could play along Warren as a stretch 4 sometimes.
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Post#371 » by Revived » Fri Mar 6, 2015 9:21 am

I hope Wes Matthews injury will limit his suitors in the summer so we can steal him and use our awesome training staff to get him healthy :D
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Post#372 » by NTB » Fri Mar 6, 2015 9:52 am

SF88 wrote:I hope Wes Matthews injury will limit his suitors in the summer so we can steal him and use our awesome training staff to get him healthy :D


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Post#373 » by King4Day » Fri Mar 6, 2015 1:16 pm

I feel for Matthews. Contract year and this happens.
I'd still make a push for him if possible.
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Post#374 » by RunDogGun » Fri Mar 6, 2015 2:35 pm

DarkHawk wrote:I feel for Matthews. Contract year and this happens.
I'd still make a push for him if possible.

That really sucks for him. I like his game, but if we keep Knight, I don't see the point in getting him. Plus, I think Portland will offer more than teams trying to underbid for him because of this injury. They already know what they have in him.

However, grabbing Aflalo was a brilliant move now that this happened. For once Portland was somewhat prepared for an injury. :o
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#375 » by NavLDO » Fri Mar 6, 2015 2:47 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:I find it strange that some of the same people that want to see more Warren, and think he will be a star, also want us to get SFs Ike Harris. :o

Tucker has been playing like a stud for a few games now, pretty much back to the guy we had last year. All the effort, and he doesn't take shots out of other guys hands.

If we trade the MoBros, we better be getting a super stud in return. Love them or hate them, they put up numbers, and bring toughness that we've lacked for years.


This. If Warren and Archie are our future stars, then adding a SF or SG is not the best use of funds. Look to solidify the PF/C spot by adding more bulk and rebounding.


I agree with both of you, though I am skeptical on Archie becoming a star.


Me, as well. I just don't get all of the posts saying that SF is our biggest need. It's our fattest position at the moment. Why in hell would we add yet another. I get that Tucker needs to be upgraded, but that's what Warren was drafted for. Have all these posters wanting a SF totally given up on Warren already?

To me, in order of importance for FA targets, this is how I'd list the positions:

PF
SG (a true SG to spell Knight)
PG (back-up for Bled)
C (if we don't keep Wright, this moves up)
SF (Again, Warren, Tucker, Marcus--we have more than enough--depth and talent)
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Post#376 » by RunDogGun » Fri Mar 6, 2015 2:58 pm

Power forward is our biggest need. If we can't grab someone better than Markieff offensively, who isn't crap on defense, then we need either Wright or another player to be a rebound and defensive specialist.

As far as the sg spot, I think we have the guys to fill it, plus we have Bog gaining experience in Europe.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#377 » by Mulhollanddrive » Fri Mar 6, 2015 4:37 pm

are we trying to get better, or to get all-star calibre players?

thats been our trap so far.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#378 » by carey » Fri Mar 6, 2015 4:53 pm

We need to upgrade talent wherever possible. We have no all-stars, we're not a playoff team... all this talk about which spot we need to improve on is kind of weird. We need to improve at all of them. If we can acquire a better PG we do it. If we can acquire a better C we do it. Wherever we get better we do it. We just need to use our assets wisely. You obviously don't want to run the cupboard bare upgrading the PG spot but if you can turn Bledsoe and a pick into someone better, you do it. If you want to trade Goodwin & Warren and bring back a stud SF you do that.

I am of the opinion we need to move on from the Morris twins and possibly even Bledsoe. If anyone has listened to the recent BSotS podcast with Randy Hill you've probably heard how our offense has been dumbed down considerably for Bledsoe, the Morris twins, and to some extent Knight (he's only practiced with the team one time.) It's troubling to think that we can only run 2 base sets due to Bledsoe's limitations. He also addressed Bledsoe's turnover problems which is a direct result of him telegraphing every pass. He doesn't possess the ability to look defenders off like a Rubio, Nash or Lawson. This is a big problem going forward as it will lead to lots of 7 turnover games in the future. Can we win with him as our PG? Maybe, but probably only if there's a 2nd ball handler like Dragic or Knight to ease the pressure and take control in late game situations. For me it's a bit of an issue because I'd prefer a 3&D guy like Matthews at the SG spot. I'm just not sure the team can succeed at all with Eric being the only guy initiating offense.

Would we do better keeping Knight & trading Bledsoe? I don't know. I haven't been particularly impressed with Knight so far. Again, he's only had one practice with the team, but he doesn't seem capable of some very fundamental things like staying in front of his man or making entry passes to the big men (or maybe he just won't.)

TL;DR - we need upgrades everywhere, just be wise moving assets, wouldn't be sad if we traded Bledsoe, would love to move on from the Morris twins.
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Post#379 » by Qwigglez » Fri Mar 6, 2015 4:58 pm

Trade Bledsoe to the Knicks for their pick.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#380 » by King4Day » Fri Mar 6, 2015 6:43 pm

Anyone think we'll make a max offer to Draymond Green or Butler? Or both? Any chance we could actually land either?
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