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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#801 » by CB4L » Sat Mar 7, 2015 2:57 am

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chifan1798 wrote:If the bulls can beat the Thunder with Westbrook in MVP mode without 3 of their top 5 scorers, then why should anyone hold back criticism for not winning against a team with no star players? It's the same trend regardless. We have a thread on here asking about energy being better without Rose.....what happened to that energy?


it is the 2nd game of a back to back. I don't understand how ppl still don't see this happening. Bulls will have a lot of grind out games and in process will beat some solid teams and also lose lesser teams. Same as past seasons. Again unlike many bulls fans..I don't get too high nor too low game by game. I still look big picture and context

Actually, it's not the same as pasts seasons. Bulls have never had such a good record, and also had equal amounts of losses against sub .500 teams and +.500 teams (12 losses each so far). This is the most inconsistent the bulls have been in that regard, and it's frustrating considering this is the best roster that they have had over the years. I understand any team can win on a given night, but it has become so much of a disappointing trend for this bulls team this team with the similar records against good and bad teams.


well guess what. This is what bulls fans wanted in the past. All the reg season doesn't matter...seeding isnt as important..Playoffs being a different animal..bulls being healthy for playoffs etc talk bulls fans did last few years is being answered now.

Welcome to a team that is built for the playoffs to make a deep run and coasts games during the regular season. So now you want to complain again and go back to the old ways of being all out regular season warriors without another few gears for playoffs? Have to pick a side dude.

Teams like Atlanta is what bulls were a few years ago except atlanta doesn't have a MVP. We know how that turned out. Teams like atlanta don't have another gear hence why I don't see them as a threat
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#802 » by chifan1798 » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:02 am

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Cavs and Warriors ain't missing 3 of their top 6 players.

Even more reason to believe that the only reason Indy won those games was because the other team overlooked them, and likely not because they were actually a really good team

One 2 point loss to SA on the road but they are known to not take opponents seriously right? Indy was ECF 2x years with most of their personell they are hardly bad even minus PG.

Yes, SA is known to not take opponents seriously.....especially considering Pops rests players periodically. They're champions.....you expect them to come out with full energy every game? Lol. Those guys are older now.....they'll take it easy, especially against sub .500 teams.

So Indy has most of their personnel, minus PG, but are fighting for 8th place? Bulls without Rose the last 2 years were fighting for 4th place.
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#803 » by Polynice4Pippen » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:06 am

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chifan1798 wrote:And? Charlotte is a middling team, and I'm sure the Cavs and Warriors didn't take them seriously.....just like the bulls, yet again


Cavs and Warriors ain't missing 3 of their top 6 players.

Even more reason to believe that the only reason Indy won those games was because the other team overlooked them, and likely not because they were actually a really good team


So any time a team wins now it's because the other team just overlooked them? Stop it. No one's overlooking a team that's won 10 of their last 12 games.
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#804 » by chifan1798 » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:06 am

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CB4L wrote:it is the 2nd game of a back to back. I don't understand how ppl still don't see this happening. Bulls will have a lot of grind out games and in process will beat some solid teams and also lose lesser teams. Same as past seasons. Again unlike many bulls fans..I don't get too high nor too low game by game. I still look big picture and context

Actually, it's not the same as pasts seasons. Bulls have never had such a good record, and also had equal amounts of losses against sub .500 teams and +.500 teams (12 losses each so far). This is the most inconsistent the bulls have been in that regard, and it's frustrating considering this is the best roster that they have had over the years. I understand any team can win on a given night, but it has become so much of a disappointing trend for this bulls team this team with the similar records against good and bad teams.


well guess what. This is what bulls fans wanted in the past. All the reg season doesn't matter...seeding isnt as important..Playoffs being a different animal..bulls being healthy for playoffs etc talk bulls fans did last few years is being answered now.

Welcome to a team that is built for the playoffs to make a deep run and coasts games during the regular season. So now you want to complain again and go back to the old ways of being all out regular season warriors without another few gears for playoffs? Have to pick a side dude.

Teams like Atlanta is what bulls were a few years ago except atlanta doesn't have a MVP. We know how that turned out. Teams like atlanta don't have another gear hence why I don't see them as a threat

I'm not a dude. Also, I do like that the bulls have another gear, but they don't need to be this inconsistent when it comes to bad teams. They don't even need to give full effort for 48 minutes against some of those bad teams......just knock a team out and make them lose all hope, and then rest guys. And try not to follow up all your good wins with bad losses. And maybe, start coming out and trying to defend your hold on the 2nd seed.

I do agree about your comment on Atlanta though. That's why at this point, I think they can be beaten
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#805 » by chifan1798 » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:08 am

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Cavs and Warriors ain't missing 3 of their top 6 players.

Even more reason to believe that the only reason Indy won those games was because the other team overlooked them, and likely not because they were actually a really good team


So any time a team wins now it's because the other team just overlooked them? Stop it. No one's overlooking a team that's won 10 of their last 12 games.

I'm sure they weren't 10 of 12 when they played the Cavs, and Warriors.
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#806 » by Polynice4Pippen » Sat Mar 7, 2015 3:52 am

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chifan1798 wrote:Even more reason to believe that the only reason Indy won those games was because the other team overlooked them, and likely not because they were actually a really good team


So any time a team wins now it's because the other team just overlooked them? Stop it. No one's overlooking a team that's won 10 of their last 12 games.

I'm sure they weren't 10 of 12 when they played the Cavs, and Warriors.


They were tonight when they beat us.
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#807 » by chifan1798 » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:06 am

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So any time a team wins now it's because the other team just overlooked them? Stop it. No one's overlooking a team that's won 10 of their last 12 games.

I'm sure they weren't 10 of 12 when they played the Cavs, and Warriors.


They were tonight when they beat us.

So a team that has players openly admit that they have played down to competition this year suddenly looked at the Pacers being 10 of 12 and played them seriously? I find that highly unlikely.

Look, this team has underachieved against bad teams all year. They could be sitting comfortably in 2nd place at this point, despite the injuries they're going through now, were it not for at least showing up for at least a fourth of those 12 losses against the sub .500 teams. Don't know why it's so wrong to point out the it's the same stuff going on with this team. Yeah, they've got some people missing, but when has that ever stopped a bulls team? Especially one that still has more talent than the opposition even without those three guys missing? It's pretty much the same thing whether it's a full roster or not.....they just don't get up for certain teams
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#808 » by Polynice4Pippen » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:14 am

chifan1798 wrote:
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chifan1798 wrote:I'm sure they weren't 10 of 12 when they played the Cavs, and Warriors.


They were tonight when they beat us.

So a team that has players openly admit that they have played down to competition this year suddenly looked at the Pacers being 10 of 12 and played them seriously? I find that highly unlikely.

Look, this team has underachieved against bad teams all year. They could be sitting comfortably in 2nd place at this point, despite the injuries they're going through now, were it not for at least showing up for at least a fourth of those 12 losses against the sub .500 teams. Don't know why it's so wrong to point out the it's the same stuff going on with this team. Yeah, they've got some people missing, but when has that ever stopped a bulls team? Especially one that still has more talent than the opposition even without those three guys missing? It's pretty much the same thing whether it's a full roster or not.....they just don't get up for certain teams


What part of "the Pacers are playing really good basketball right now" aren't you understanding? I don't get it. Indiana's playing well right now, have won 11 out of 13, beaten Cleveland twice, beaten Golden State. Just give Indiana credit, acknowledge the Bulls are dealing with major injuries and were playing the 2nd night of a back to back and 3rd game in 4 nights and keep it moving.
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#809 » by chifan1798 » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:29 am

Polynice4Pippen wrote:
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They were tonight when they beat us.

So a team that has players openly admit that they have played down to competition this year suddenly looked at the Pacers being 10 of 12 and played them seriously? I find that highly unlikely.

Look, this team has underachieved against bad teams all year. They could be sitting comfortably in 2nd place at this point, despite the injuries they're going through now, were it not for at least showing up for at least a fourth of those 12 losses against the sub .500 teams. Don't know why it's so wrong to point out the it's the same stuff going on with this team. Yeah, they've got some people missing, but when has that ever stopped a bulls team? Especially one that still has more talent than the opposition even without those three guys missing? It's pretty much the same thing whether it's a full roster or not.....they just don't get up for certain teams


What part of "the Pacers are playing really good basketball right now" aren't you understanding? I don't get it. Indiana's playing well right now, have won 11 out of 13, beaten Cleveland twice, beaten Golden State. Just give Indiana credit, acknowledge the Bulls are dealing with major injuries and were playing the 2nd night of a back to back and 3rd game in 4 nights and keep it moving.

Not giving them squat. Their record is that of a bad team, and that's what they are. It's not like Paul George came back and they are a different team. They've made no trades, and have the same guys. Some role players may have been in and out of the lineup, but after seeing the bulls deal with all sorts of injuries the past few years, I guess I have a hard time giving credit to a team for being 9th place while missing a superstar. And until the Pacer become extremely good, there isn't anything that isn't going to make me think that they haven't benefitted from good teams overlooking them because of their record, which has subsequently allowed them to win a few more games than you may expect.

You see how long it took for people to take the Hawks seriously even with a super long winning streak, and having a winning record throughout, and you want me to give the Pacers credit? Lol. I'll just call it the bulls doing the same thing they've been doing all season, which they've admitted to......basically playing down to the competition
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#810 » by Polynice4Pippen » Sat Mar 7, 2015 4:49 am

chifan1798 wrote:
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chifan1798 wrote:So a team that has players openly admit that they have played down to competition this year suddenly looked at the Pacers being 10 of 12 and played them seriously? I find that highly unlikely.

Look, this team has underachieved against bad teams all year. They could be sitting comfortably in 2nd place at this point, despite the injuries they're going through now, were it not for at least showing up for at least a fourth of those 12 losses against the sub .500 teams. Don't know why it's so wrong to point out the it's the same stuff going on with this team. Yeah, they've got some people missing, but when has that ever stopped a bulls team? Especially one that still has more talent than the opposition even without those three guys missing? It's pretty much the same thing whether it's a full roster or not.....they just don't get up for certain teams


What part of "the Pacers are playing really good basketball right now" aren't you understanding? I don't get it. Indiana's playing well right now, have won 11 out of 13, beaten Cleveland twice, beaten Golden State. Just give Indiana credit, acknowledge the Bulls are dealing with major injuries and were playing the 2nd night of a back to back and 3rd game in 4 nights and keep it moving.

Not giving them squat. Their record is that of a bad team, and that's what they are. It's not like Paul George came back and they are a different team. They've made no trades, and have the same guys. Some role players may have been in and out of the lineup, but after seeing the bulls deal with all sorts of injuries the past few years, I guess I have a hard time giving credit to a team for being 9th place while missing a superstar. And until the Pacer become extremely good, there isn't anything that isn't going to make me think that they haven't benefitted from good teams overlooking them because of their record, which has subsequently allowed them to win a few more games than you may expect.

You see how long it took for people to take the Hawks seriously even with a super long winning streak, and having a winning record throughout, and you want me to give the Pacers credit? Lol. I'll just call it the bulls doing the same thing they've been doing all season, which they've admitted to......basically playing down to the competition


Sorry but I have to laugh at the notion of a team that starts Aaron Brooks, Tony Snell and Mike Dunleavy, Jr. together on the perimeter playing down to anyone.
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#811 » by Romsey31 » Sat Mar 7, 2015 6:45 pm

chifan1798 wrote:
Polynice4Pippen wrote:
chifan1798 wrote:So a team that has players openly admit that they have played down to competition this year suddenly looked at the Pacers being 10 of 12 and played them seriously? I find that highly unlikely.

Look, this team has underachieved against bad teams all year. They could be sitting comfortably in 2nd place at this point, despite the injuries they're going through now, were it not for at least showing up for at least a fourth of those 12 losses against the sub .500 teams. Don't know why it's so wrong to point out the it's the same stuff going on with this team. Yeah, they've got some people missing, but when has that ever stopped a bulls team? Especially one that still has more talent than the opposition even without those three guys missing? It's pretty much the same thing whether it's a full roster or not.....they just don't get up for certain teams


What part of "the Pacers are playing really good basketball right now" aren't you understanding? I don't get it. Indiana's playing well right now, have won 11 out of 13, beaten Cleveland twice, beaten Golden State. Just give Indiana credit, acknowledge the Bulls are dealing with major injuries and were playing the 2nd night of a back to back and 3rd game in 4 nights and keep it moving.

Not giving them squat. Their record is that of a bad team, and that's what they are. It's not like Paul George came back and they are a different team. They've made no trades, and have the same guys. Some role players may have been in and out of the lineup, but after seeing the bulls deal with all sorts of injuries the past few years, I guess I have a hard time giving credit to a team for being 9th place while missing a superstar. And until the Pacer become extremely good, there isn't anything that isn't going to make me think that they haven't benefitted from good teams overlooking them because of their record, which has subsequently allowed them to win a few more games than you may expect.

You see how long it took for people to take the Hawks seriously even with a super long winning streak, and having a winning record throughout, and you want me to give the Pacers credit? Lol. I'll just call it the bulls doing the same thing they've been doing all season, which they've admitted to......basically playing down to the competition


You obviously have not been watching any pacers game with your some role players may have been in and out of lineups statement. This is actually the first stretch that indiana has had its starting five playing together for the entire season. Let me reiterate the planned starting five for indiana has NOT PLAYED TOGETHER ALL SEASON BEFORE THIS STRETCH. All five starters has had injuries and missed games. Here's a list of games missed by our core.

Games missed
Hibbert -5
West - 15
CJ miles - 11
Stuckey - 8
Hill - 39
Mahimi- 21

So comparing This team to a team that missed rose only is a bit of a stretch.
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Re: 3/6 Bulls @ Pacers 6CT on CSN 

Post#812 » by chifan1798 » Sat Mar 7, 2015 9:58 pm

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What part of "the Pacers are playing really good basketball right now" aren't you understanding? I don't get it. Indiana's playing well right now, have won 11 out of 13, beaten Cleveland twice, beaten Golden State. Just give Indiana credit, acknowledge the Bulls are dealing with major injuries and were playing the 2nd night of a back to back and 3rd game in 4 nights and keep it moving.

Not giving them squat. Their record is that of a bad team, and that's what they are. It's not like Paul George came back and they are a different team. They've made no trades, and have the same guys. Some role players may have been in and out of the lineup, but after seeing the bulls deal with all sorts of injuries the past few years, I guess I have a hard time giving credit to a team for being 9th place while missing a superstar. And until the Pacer become extremely good, there isn't anything that isn't going to make me think that they haven't benefitted from good teams overlooking them because of their record, which has subsequently allowed them to win a few more games than you may expect.

You see how long it took for people to take the Hawks seriously even with a super long winning streak, and having a winning record throughout, and you want me to give the Pacers credit? Lol. I'll just call it the bulls doing the same thing they've been doing all season, which they've admitted to......basically playing down to the competition


You obviously have not been watching any pacers game with your some role players may have been in and out of lineups statement. This is actually the first stretch that indiana has had its starting five playing together for the entire season. Let me reiterate the planned starting five for indiana has NOT PLAYED TOGETHER ALL SEASON BEFORE THIS STRETCH. All five starters has had injuries and missed games. Here's a list of games missed by our core.

Games missed
Hibbert -5
West - 15
CJ miles - 11
Stuckey - 8
Hill - 39
Mahimi- 21

So comparing This team to a team that missed rose only is a bit of a stretch.

You must not have watched any bulls games these past few years. You think Rose is the only player that we've missed the last 2 years? Lol. Why do you think people always say that this team is injury prone? That's why I'm not going to be praising them, because not only has Rose missed time the two years prior to this one, but so has Deng, Noah, Gibson, Hinrich, etc......and they were fighting for 4th, not 8th

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