Towns or Okafor or Mudiay or Russel?

kane · Post #841 » by **kane** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 10:43 pm

honestly none of these guys are a sure thing we might be better off trading the pick or not winning the lottery and taking Okafur witch his defense is garbage

Post #842 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 10:48 pm

shmeakone wrote:I don't want Towns, feel like he has bust material all over him. What makes him so special though? What player do they project him to become, comparison wise?

Al Horford with better defense and more blocks.

Fat Kat · Post #843 » by **Fat Kat** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 10:55 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
shmeakone wrote:I don't want Towns, feel like he has bust material all over him. What makes him so special though? What player do they project him to become, comparison wise?

Al Horford with better defense and more blocks.

Great comparison. Plus a little more range on his jumper.

Pharmcat · Post #844 » by **Pharmcat** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 11:22 pm

Towns to me reminds me of the Marvin Williams situation....Towns full talent cant be on display cuz he plays with WCS, but you know he has the tools....whether those tools can be translated to NBA is hard to predict...I think OK4, Russel, Towns is the ranking

Post #845 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 11:27 pm

Pharmcat wrote:Towns to me reminds me of the Marvin Williams situation....Towns full talent cant be on display cuz he plays with WCS, but you know he has the tools....whether those tools can be translated to NBA is hard to predict...I think OK4, Russel, Towns is the ranking

you must have not been watching him the last month...probably not

he has been getting close to 30 minutes a night and putting up strong numbers...not even close to that situation

Marty McFly · Post #846 » by **Marty McFly** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 11:47 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:Towns to me reminds me of the Marvin Williams situation....Towns full talent cant be on display cuz he plays with WCS, but you know he has the tools....whether those tools can be translated to NBA is hard to predict...I think OK4, Russel, Towns is the ranking

you must have not been watching him the last month...probably not

he has been getting close to 30 minutes a night and putting up strong numbers...not even close to that situation

you're really going to make me defend fartcat? that was an issue with marvin coming out. that he was being micromanaged by williams. not getting enough playing time. he played well and helped unc win the title there. i don't think it implies that towns will be a bust coming to the league.

Post #847 » by **Thugger HBC** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 11:52 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:Towns to me reminds me of the Marvin Williams situation....Towns full talent cant be on display cuz he plays with WCS, but you know he has the tools....whether those tools can be translated to NBA is hard to predict...I think OK4, Russel, Towns is the ranking

you must have not been watching him the last month...probably not

he has been getting close to 30 minutes a night and putting up strong numbers...not even close to that situation

you're really going to make me defend fartcat? that was an issue with marvin coming out. that he was being micromanaged by williams. not getting enough playing time. he played well and helped unc win the title there. i don't think it implies that towns will be a bust coming to the league.

I didnt get that feel from pharm either...the dead giveaway is he ranks Towns #3. if he thought he would be a bust i doubt he'd still have him that high.

Marty McFly · Post #848 » by **Marty McFly** » Sat Mar 7, 2015 11:58 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

you must have not been watching him the last month...probably not

he has been getting close to 30 minutes a night and putting up strong numbers...not even close to that situation

you're really going to make me defend fartcat? that was an issue with marvin coming out. that he was being micromanaged by williams. not getting enough playing time. he played well and helped unc win the title there. i don't think it implies that towns will be a bust coming to the league.

I didnt get that feel from pharm either...the dead giveaway is he ranks Towns #3. if he thought he would be a bust i doubt he'd still have him that high.

ban mpharris immediately. i feel unclean after defending pharm. :lol:

Post #849 » by **mpharris36** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 12:07 am

one was a rotational player on UNC team, Towns is the most important player on Kentucky team even as a freshman.

outside of that limiting his stats early in the year, I don't see the comparison.

DickGrayson · Post #850 » by **DickGrayson** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 12:19 am

Pharmcat wrote:Towns to me reminds me of the Marvin Williams situation....Towns full talent cant be on display cuz he plays with WCS, but you know he has the tools....whether those tools can be translated to NBA is hard to predict...I think OK4, Russel, Towns is the ranking

BodyCount · Post #851 » by **BodyCount** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 12:29 am

I just read it on wiretap:
"Phil Jackson and the New York Knicks' front office have traveled to scout several practices of the Kentucky basketball team.
The Knicks are expected to pick between No. 1 and No. 5 in the NBA Draft and could consider Karl-Anthony Towns or Willie Cauley-Stein."

I'm not following college basketball, but reading other post I see Kentucky is still undefeated?

So how is Towns? What's the difference between him and Okafor? Besides defense.

LJ4pointplay · Post #852 » by **LJ4pointplay** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 12:30 am

kane wrote:honestly none of these guys are a sure thing we might be better off trading the pick or not winning the lottery and taking Okafur witch his defense is garbage

Towns is a sure thing. There is no weaknesses in his game. This is our guy.

TrueWarrior · Post #853 » by **TrueWarrior** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 12:37 am

Theres nothing left to do at this point besides hoping all 3 of Russell, Towns, and Okafor ball out to end the season so whoever we end up taking will be legit.

Russell especially needs to go crazy to me because a team like Philly needs a guard like him much more than another big. So Im hoping even if we land the 3rd pick that Towns or Okafor is there assuming Philly is ahead, but its looking pretty likely that the 2 bigs are going 1-2. Russell would be a hell of a consolation but the idea of building around a potential franchise center 30 years after drafting Pat is too much to pass up. PGs are much easier to attain and are just not as needed in this system.

1a. Towns
1b. Okafor
3. Russell
4. Mudiay

Is my board, but it's great how everyone's is different.

sportscrazy · Post #854 » by **sportscrazy** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 12:38 am

LJ4pointplay wrote:
kane wrote:honestly none of these guys are a sure thing we might be better off trading the pick or not winning the lottery and taking Okafur witch his defense is garbage

Towns is a sure thing. There is no weaknesses in his game. This is our guy.

How NBA ready is Towns? Would we need a vet to start the season at center if we drafted him or is he NBA ready enough that him and Cole Aldrich would be fine at center?

LJ4pointplay · Post #855 » by **LJ4pointplay** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 12:43 am

sportscrazy wrote:
LJ4pointplay wrote:
kane wrote:honestly none of these guys are a sure thing we might be better off trading the pick or not winning the lottery and taking Okafur witch his defense is garbage

Towns is a sure thing. There is no weaknesses in his game. This is our guy.

How NBA ready is Towns? Would we need a vet to start the season at center if we drafted him or is he NBA ready enough that him and Cole Aldrich would be fine at center?

I'm not a huge college bball guy, so others might be able to answer better. However, from what i've seen, he can contribute day one. He has post moves, he can shoot, he can pass, he can defend the pnr, he rim protects, he also seems to have a high bball IQ.

sportscrazy · Post #856 » by **sportscrazy** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 12:46 am

So maybe just a veteran minimum center like Joel Anthony would do with Towns and Aldrich as our only other centers?

Knicker23 · Post #857 » by **Knicker23** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 12:47 am

I think the "safe" bet tends to be the PG bc that translates a little more predictabily in the NBA. If you're an esteemed PG going into the NBA, you're going to be a solid PG in the NBA. You may not be AS material, but at worst you'll have an answer to the position. Which makes sense- there are a ton of solid/good PGs in the league right now.

Towns/Okafor while likely the better talents, come with a little more inherent risk, as well as upside. One could potentially have much more than just an answer with either of those for a long time, or they could just end up being OK- which is a bit different than being OK at PG.

I'd be fine with any of Towns Okafor or Russell.. If i had to choose i'd say Towns as he seems the more well-rounded.. but i think who the best NBA player is will be TBD until they're there (obviously).

What the Knicks need for the system or who is available in free agency or what the window is for Melo should have zip to do with who we choose.. if you get a number 1 pick you pick based on talent with the mindset that that player will hopefully be a fixture there for years to come.

LJ4pointplay · Post #858 » by **LJ4pointplay** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 12:48 am

In my opinion, I think any of the centers at the top of the board should start as rookies. Interested in what others think so.

knicks94 · Post #859 » by **knicks94** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 1:20 am

I wish the Sixers or T'Wolves convinced Melo to be traded to them. It would be something if the Knicks had the top 2 picks and drafted Okafor and Towns. They would be the Knicks' version of David Robinson and Tim Duncan.

BodyCount · Post #860 » by **BodyCount** » Sun Mar 8, 2015 2:07 am

knicks94 wrote:I wish the Sixers or T'Wolves convinced Melo to be traded to them. It would be something if the Knicks had the top 2 picks and drafted Okafor and Towns. They would be the Knicks' version of David Robinson and Tim Duncan.

If we convinced melo to go to Wolves we want wiggins from them in return!

We draft towns, sign butler for max, dispose of calderon and sign dragič and we roll next year with:

towns
?
Wiggins
butler
Dragič

Who do you go with?