THE Aaron Gordon thread

claudio-br · Post #41 » by **claudio-br** » Mon Mar 9, 2015 11:40 pm

I wasn't expecting us to draft Gordon, but I was fine with the pick because I wasn't really high on either Smart and Exum. Exum looked like a bust to me and I wasn't sure if Smart would blend well with Oladipo. That being said, I think it was a good pick.

BadMofoPimp · Post #42 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Mon Mar 9, 2015 11:45 pm

claudio-br wrote:
orthoman wrote:A wasted pick at #4....will be a bust.

who would you have selected?

these are last year's selections, picks 4 to 15
1 4 Aaron Gordon PF
1 5 Dante Exum PG/SG
1 6 Marcus Smart PG
1 7 Julius Randle PF
1 8 Nik Stauskas SG
1 9 Noah Vonleh PF
1 10 Elfrid Payton PG
1 11 Doug McDermott SF
1 12 Dario Šarić# SF/PF
1 13 Zach LaVine SG
1 14 T. J. Warren SF
1 15 Adreian Payne PF

as of today, I think both AG and Payton were good choices

I would take Elf or Gordon over ANY of those players! Elf and Gordon gonna prove all doubters all wrong!!!

Anti Chalmers · Post #43 » by **Anti Chalmers** » Mon Mar 9, 2015 11:51 pm

I think AG was the right pick, because Magic was not going to use that #4 pick on Payton. Our GM liked Payton more than any other pg all along and they knew that he would more likely be available at #11 than AG will be so they took the chance.

OrlDave · Post #44 » by **OrlDave** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:03 am

Anti Chalmers wrote:I think AG was the right pick, because Magic was not going to use that #4 pick on Payton. Our GM liked Payton more than any other pg all along and they knew that he would more likely be available at #11 than AG will be so they took the chance.

I think you are right on this. The best choice at 4 was a PG type or a high ceiling project like AG. Rob and his scouts looked at Payton, Exum, Smart and said Elf is the best of them and he's projected to go near our 12th pick, let's roll the dice on AG. Elfrid allowed us to make that gamble. Also the fact that the other GMs suck and let Elf slide (Nik Stauskas... /facepalm).

BadMofoPimp · Post #45 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:10 am

I may be bashed for this, but I feel Henny would take Smart over Payton if Smart was available at 10 or 11 even though I like Payton more than Smart. Just sayin. . .

T-Cat · Post #46 » by **T-Cat** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:20 am

Aaron Gordon reminds me so much of Andre Iguodala! Not a great shooter but has all the tools and athletic ability to cause havoc on the perimeter in transition. He also wants to get better with his overall skills so that's a plus.

A lot of people forget that this team lacks a rim protector so unless we trade Vucevic ( which is not going to happen IMO) he slides next in line to be a starter at the 3.

Or we could trade him and that would means Hennigan admits he made a error drafting this kid (Again, not going to happen because AG potential is too much to pass up on and the way he works to get better is unbelievable for a 19 yr kid).

Unless we can trade AG for an LBJ23 and KD I'll wait for him to reach his potential.

tooler · Post #47 » by **tooler** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:21 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:I may be bashed for this, but I feel Henny would take Smart over Payton if Smart was available at 10 or 11 even though I like Payton more than Smart. Just sayin. . .

You might be right, but knowing that the Oladipo point guard experiment has failed makes me kind of glad we took a floor general despite my slight reservations about Elfrid's long-term success in the modern NBA where shooting is so important.

BadMofoPimp · Post #48 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:28 am

tooler wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I may be bashed for this, but I feel Henny would take Smart over Payton if Smart was available at 10 or 11 even though I like Payton more than Smart. Just sayin. . .

You might be right, but knowing that the Oladipo point guard experiment has failed makes me kind of glad we took a floor general despite my slight reservations about Elfrid's long-term success in the modern NBA where shooting is so important.

I am not worried about his shooting because he is young and can still develop a respectable shooting touch over time. Besides, this league needs defensive masterminds like the Tony Allens and Rondo's. At times, Elf looks like he has a sweet stroke and just needs repetition. I feel Elf will turn out just fine.

tiderulz · Post #49 » by **tiderulz** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:49 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:I may be bashed for this, but I feel Henny would take Smart over Payton if Smart was available at 10 or 11 even though I like Payton more than Smart. Just sayin. . .

naa. Smart is a combo guard, we already had that if we wanted with Dipo playing PG. They wanted a true passer at the PG spot. Someone to run the offense

BadMofoPimp · Post #50 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:59 am

tiderulz wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I may be bashed for this, but I feel Henny would take Smart over Payton if Smart was available at 10 or 11 even though I like Payton more than Smart. Just sayin. . .

naa. Smart is a combo guard, we already had that if we wanted with Dipo playing PG. They wanted a true passer at the PG spot. Someone to run the offense

I agree. But, if Smart would have slid to 10th, do you really think Henny would have passed too.

Hogified05 · Post #51 » by **Hogified05** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:35 am

Once he knows he will get the bulk of the minutes and doesn't worry about coming out after making a mistake everyone can make a judgement then. Until then we can only guess. Good thing is he has plenty of time kid is only 19.

MellowRose · Post #52 » by **MellowRose** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:38 am

As much as I love me some Smart, he wouldn't have been the right pick for the way this team is currently constructed. A floor general was something we absolutely needed. Hennigan nailed that pick.

flying_mollusk · Post #53 » by **flying_mollusk** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:17 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I may be bashed for this, but I feel Henny would take Smart over Payton if Smart was available at 10 or 11 even though I like Payton more than Smart. Just sayin. . .

naa. Smart is a combo guard, we already had that if we wanted with Dipo playing PG. They wanted a true passer at the PG spot. Someone to run the offense

I agree. But, if Smart would have slid to 10th, do you really think Henny would have passed too.

Dont forget, we picked 12th. So for your hypo, both Smart and Payton would have had to slide to 12. That wasn't happening last year. Smart was rated higher and wasn't going to slip that far. For this gamble, he had to know Payton would would be in our range and he could get him by trade.

Orlwillbeback · Post #54 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:17 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:I may be bashed for this, but I feel Henny would take Smart over Payton if Smart was available at 10 or 11 even though I like Payton more than Smart. Just sayin. . .

Doubt it, reports were that we worked him out twice and still weren't impressed. The fact that Payton has outplayed smart this season, making the rookie game over him and all, proves we made the right choice. Just watching them play, you can tell payton has the edge over smart when it comes to reading the game and decision making. All things needed to be a true point guard. Smart is a combo guard and those aren't as valuable.

It's time to let go of your smart obsession. I wI'll admit I was obsessed with exum but it appears we got a player better than both of them, at a pick that was lower In the draft. That's a testament to henny scouting eye.

Orlwillbeback · Post #55 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:20 am

tooler wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I may be bashed for this, but I feel Henny would take Smart over Payton if Smart was available at 10 or 11 even though I like Payton more than Smart. Just sayin. . .

You might be right, but knowing that the Oladipo point guard experiment has failed makes me kind of glad we took a floor general despite my slight reservations about Elfrid's long-term success in the modern NBA where shooting is so important.

If there's a point guard in the nba that could succeed without being able to shoot, you need to be exceptionAL at everything else. Right now, It looks like payton could be that.

OrlandO · Post #56 » by **OrlandO** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:21 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:I may be bashed for this, but I feel Henny would take Smart over Payton if Smart was available at 10 or 11 even though I like Payton more than Smart. Just sayin. . .

I think if Henny really wanted to pair smart with dipo he would have just taken smart at 4 or traded down to get him. He obviously didn't value smart high enough to do that. Smart is already a very good defender, but it's looking like he is more of a defensive SG in this league... he would have been redundant with Dipo in place and I think Henny knew that. Thus, I think he preferred payton, and he knew he could go for AG with the first pick and still get Payton with the second pick due to the needs of other teams.

tooler · Post #57 » by **tooler** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:23 am

Orlwillbeback wrote:The fact that Payton has outplayed smart this season, making the rookie game over him and all, proves we made the right choice.

He likely missed it due to injury. He was recently named player of the month so he's not that bad. No need to pump up Payton by putting Smart down. He was a later pick so it's all gravy.

Orlwillbeback · Post #58 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:25 am

tooler wrote:
Orlwillbeback wrote:The fact that Payton has outplayed smart this season, making the rookie game over him and all, proves we made the right choice.

He likely missed it due to injury. He was recently named player of the month so he's not that bad. No need to pump up Payton by putting Smart down. He was a later pick so it's all gravy.

Marcus smart was named player of the month? Where did I miss this? And regardless payton is still out playing smart this yeaR. Just look at their stats. it's okay to side with your own.

tooler · Post #59 » by **tooler** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:27 am

Orlwillbeback wrote:
tooler wrote:
Orlwillbeback wrote:The fact that Payton has outplayed smart this season, making the rookie game over him and all, proves we made the right choice.

He likely missed it due to injury. He was recently named player of the month so he's not that bad. No need to pump up Payton by putting Smart down. He was a later pick so it's all gravy.

Marcus smart was named player of the month? Where did I miss this? And regardless payton is still out playing smart this yeaR. Just look at their stats. it's okay to side with your own.

Sorry, I meant rookie of the month. Let's not get too carried away.

Orlwillbeback · Post #60 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:27 am

tooler wrote:
Orlwillbeback wrote:The fact that Payton has outplayed smart this season, making the rookie game over him and all, proves we made the right choice.

He likely missed it due to injury. He was recently named player of the month so he's not that bad. No need to pump up Payton by putting Smart down. He was a later pick so it's all gravy.

Also Injury doesn't apply here because both kelly o and mcw missed It due to injury and we're both named to the game regardless. Smart didn't make It because he wasn't good enough.