THE Aaron Gordon thread

[KillMonger]

Its possible, never can really tell but family is a good indicator of future growth...and to me it points to him remaining about the same height.

According to an article on DraftExpress, 19 year old Drew Gordon (AG's brother) measured 6'-9" 240 lbs. Aaron Gordon at 19 measures 6'- 9" 220 lbs.

Comparing their DraftExpress NBA combine measurements (AG was 18 and DG was 22) the only real physical difference was weight and body fat w/ DG +4.5 more than AG. The big difference was AG's leaping ability which was considerable higher: + 2.5" (no step) and +5" (max vert) over his brother. Its hard to ignore that the difference in AG's athleticism over his brother is very likely related to that xtra bulk DG has. Drew Gordon is now 24 and an undersized (6'-9" 240lb) PF in the D-League.

If I was AG I would try to stay lean and keep that extra hop as that is what makes him unique. Bulk him up and its possible that physical advantage disappears.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Drew-Gordon-5158/

We will see i guess I just think it's possible because hark grew an inch over the summer last year. Don't know if putting on bulk would cause him to lose hops, Blake is like what 250-255? And he's as explosive as it's gets.

They're not really the same body type. Having just turned 20, Blake already measured 6-10 250 at the combine. That's just a much bigger frame which allows Blake to guard 4's and 5's.

Right now Gordon has the foot speed and body agility to guard 1-4 which is pretty unique. But your probably right if he grows into a 4 like Blake he'll probably still retain some of that explosiveness, but he'll likely lose some speed and agility.

in comparing the two, one thing that stuck out was that Gordon's max vert was 39" at the combine...Blake Griffins was 35.5."

AG is a world class athlete man, that 39 inches he said wasn't his best AG said he's gotten 41 before.....freak athlete plus he's got the speed i believe in the combine he had the best shuttle time out of all the prospects which means he beat out the point guards too.

One the hole though i don't think we're fully utilizing him at this point, they don't know what to do with him. I mean an easy play to involve him in would be pick and roll with payton or Dipo, we're not seeing that. I mean in college they we're setting him up with plays that got him to attack the rim, we're not seeing that here. Even at this stage he's capable of a lot more than he's showing from ball-handling to passing and even in iso situations but we're putting a leash on him and relegating him to simply a hustle guy.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcI8R8yFfRc[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5YWifmbedY[/youtube]

All this didn't go anywhere, he has it in him

[OrlandO]

Fwiw, I believe Amir Johnson was 6'9 215-220 with same wingspan at 19-20 years old and he's grown into a productive defensive starting PF for the Raptors in recent years.

[VoiceOReason]

Anybody see a little amare Stoudamire in him?

[MellowRose]

Anybody see a little amare Stoudamire in him?

offensively? Sure, but only because of his vertical. We haven't seen any pick and roll action with AG in the NBA...AT ALL. It's really a shame that we're responsible for killing the growth of our young players.

[VoiceOReason]

Anybody see a little amare Stoudamire in him?

offensively? Sure, but only because of his vertical. We haven't seen any pick and roll action with AG in the NBA...AT ALL. It's really a shame that we're responsible for killing the growth of our young players.

I don't know that we are killing anything...just how things have worked out this year...

I know we have done any pnr for him ...but I could see him begin to be used this way next year...jumpshot doesn't seem completely broke and he seem s completely capable of two or so dribbles to get to the hoop on the role... I just really haven't heard that name thrown around as a comp but in a perfect world maybe he gets there

[NBAchamps2017]

Stromile Swift v.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWhpSORalgs

[Orlwillbeback]

Anybody see a little amare Stoudamire in him?

offensively? Sure, but only because of his vertical. We haven't seen any pick and roll action with AG in the NBA...AT ALL. It's really a shame that we're responsible for killing the growth of our young players.

He isnt really big enough to dominate as a roller like amare did.

[Orlwillbeback]

With that said, it was really funny watching him take a dump right on dudleys face last night lol.

[Bensational]

Anybody see a little amare Stoudamire in him?

offensively? Sure, but only because of his vertical. We haven't seen any pick and roll action with AG in the NBA...AT ALL. It's really a shame that we're responsible for killing the growth of our young players.

He isnt really big enough to dominate as a roller like amare did.

his size doesn't really matter on a roll, as long as one of the bigs are defending him. the roll is designed to get the big on either a mismatch as the guard switches to cover the forward, or in the event both the big and the guard stick with the ballhandler.

[RYgoBOOM]

Can some one start posting his highlight in here? I mean he only gets 12 minutes of burn if that so I'm never watching when actually sees the court.

I have heard he's had some sick plays the last few games. Pretty hard to do when you play less than a 1/4 of the whole game.




Can someone also post some videos of AG struggling to guard 4s? because I haven't seen it

[OrlDave]

Its possible, never can really tell but family is a good indicator of future growth...and to me it points to him remaining about the same height.

According to an article on DraftExpress, 19 year old Drew Gordon (AG's brother) measured 6'-9" 240 lbs. Aaron Gordon at 19 measures 6'- 9" 220 lbs.

Comparing their DraftExpress NBA combine measurements (AG was 18 and DG was 22) the only real physical difference was weight and body fat w/ DG +4.5 more than AG. The big difference was AG's leaping ability which was considerable higher: + 2.5" (no step) and +5" (max vert) over his brother. Its hard to ignore that the difference in AG's athleticism over his brother is very likely related to that xtra bulk DG has. Drew Gordon is now 24 and an undersized (6'-9" 240lb) PF in the D-League.

If I was AG I would try to stay lean and keep that extra hop as that is what makes him unique. Bulk him up and its possible that physical advantage disappears.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Drew-Gordon-5158/

We will see i guess I just think it's possible because hark grew an inch over the summer last year. Don't know if putting on bulk would cause him to lose hops, Blake is like what 250-255? And he's as explosive as it's gets.

They're not really the same body type. Having just turned 20, Blake already measured 6-10 250 at the combine. That's just a much bigger frame which allows Blake to guard 4's and 5's.

Right now Gordon has the foot speed and body agility to guard 1-4 which is pretty unique. But your probably right if he grows into a 4 like Blake he'll probably still retain some of that explosiveness, but he'll likely lose some speed and agility.

in comparing the two, one thing that stuck out was that Gordon's max vert was 39" at the combine...Blake Griffins was 35.5."

AG's frame doesn't look drastically smaller to me.

[nicnac215]

Gordon is so good. I really see him having a big summer in development and proving his 4th overall selection. I think ultimately the pair of Gordon and Payton could really be successful. They have great chemistry, work ethic, and will inspire the team to play team basketball.

[OrlandO]

Can some one start posting his highlight in here? I mean he only gets 12 minutes of burn if that so I'm never watching when actually sees the court.

I have heard he's had some sick plays the last few games. Pretty hard to do when you play less than a 1/4 of the whole game.




Can someone also post some videos of AG struggling to guard 4s? because I haven't seen it

last few games...




bonus block on butler from last month...


other highlights since returning from his foot injury...

[purpleswordfish]

We will see i guess I just think it's possible because hark grew an inch over the summer last year. Don't know if putting on bulk would cause him to lose hops, Blake is like what 250-255? And he's as explosive as it's gets.

They're not really the same body type. Having just turned 20, Blake already measured 6-10 250 at the combine. That's just a much bigger frame which allows Blake to guard 4's and 5's.

Right now Gordon has the foot speed and body agility to guard 1-4 which is pretty unique. But your probably right if he grows into a 4 like Blake he'll probably still retain some of that explosiveness, but he'll likely lose some speed and agility.

in comparing the two, one thing that stuck out was that Gordon's max vert was 39" at the combine...Blake Griffins was 35.5."

AG is a world class athlete man, that 39 inches he said wasn't his best AG said he's gotten 41 before.....freak athlete plus he's got the speed i believe in the combine he had the best shuttle time out of all the prospects which means he beat out the point guards too.

One the hole though i don't think we're fully utilizing him at this point, they don't know what to do with him. I mean an easy play to involve him in would be pick and roll with payton or Dipo, we're not seeing that. I mean in college they we're setting him up with plays that got him to attack the rim, we're not seeing that here. Even at this stage he's capable of a lot more than he's showing from ball-handling to passing and even in iso situations but we're putting a leash on him and relegating him to simply a hustle guy.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcI8R8yFfRc[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5YWifmbedY[/youtube]

All this didn't go anywhere, he has it in him

He has it in him against non-NBA players, maybe. That second clip proves nothing. He's dominating a bunch of guys that are never going to sniff an NBA court.

[OrlDave]

He has it in him against non-NBA players, maybe. That second clip proves nothing. He's dominating a bunch of guys that are never going to sniff an NBA court.

If that 2nd clip proves nothing because the players won't make the NBA, then college clips mean nothing since the vast majority of those players won't make the NBA either. And if that's the case then we should just draft completely based on combine results.

[yoyojw17]

He has it in him against non-NBA players, maybe. That second clip proves nothing. He's dominating a bunch of guys that are never going to sniff an NBA court.

If that 2nd clip proves nothing because the players won't make the NBA, then college clips mean nothing since the vast majority of those players won't make the NBA either. And if that's the case then we should just draft completely based on combine results.

The point isn't to show that he can do it right now in the nba.... but shows he has "developable" talents that there is an obvious foundation.

I don't see how someone thinks that he will purely be a hustle guy. Assuming gradual improvements over the next couple years.... i can see him definitely warranting his top 5 selection. The funny thing is that ... as a hustle guy I first took true notice of him in the McDonald's all american game, he was not the person of focus (everyone looking at Wiggins, parker, randle etc)... barely had plays called for him... but still led the game in scoring and effected all aspects of the game. If you can make huge impacts like that when you're not the focus..... You can fill voids on any team. Effort/Hustle/ Easy points are all points none the less... even though it isn't an ISO play due to your amazing handles and terrific 3 point jumper. Even if all you can do is dunk and you can get it whenever you want to .... then hey.... you're a great asset.

The guy has tons of potential.... as long they give him the opportunity to develop them. I hope they really give him a chance to let loose and get meaningful minutes before the season is over.... he has to be able to gauge where he is at in order to know where he has to go next.

[OrlDave]

He has it in him against non-NBA players, maybe. That second clip proves nothing. He's dominating a bunch of guys that are never going to sniff an NBA court.

If that 2nd clip proves nothing because the players won't make the NBA, then college clips mean nothing since the vast majority of those players won't make the NBA either. And if that's the case then we should just draft completely based on combine results.

The point isn't to show that he can do it right now in the nba.... but shows he has "developable" talents that there is an obvious foundation.

Right exactly. It's not unlike that Oladipo solo workout video that came out before the draft. It showed Vic hitting shots and dribbling ect and basically showing what he could be long term.

[tiderulz]

Anybody see a little amare Stoudamire in him?

offensively? Sure, but only because of his vertical. We haven't seen any pick and roll action with AG in the NBA...AT ALL. It's really a shame that we're responsible for killing the growth of our young players.

head coaches without experience, of course they arent going to be good at developing players.

[MellowRose]

Anybody see a little amare Stoudamire in him?

offensively? Sure, but only because of his vertical. We haven't seen any pick and roll action with AG in the NBA...AT ALL. It's really a shame that we're responsible for killing the growth of our young players.

head coaches without experience, of course they arent going to be good at developing players.

There are plenty of new HC's who have done a phenomenal job. Hennigan seems to love coaches who are only tank worthy, which is understandable, but absolutely frustrating from a fan's perspective.

[magicman112]

He could end up being like Shawn Marion. Can hit a 3, great defender and rebounder and super athletic. He also reminds me a little of Rodman with his defensive ability and tenacity.