2014

[Ted Lasso]

PSG are legit this year. In it to win it.

Idk about that.

It's hard for me to think otherwise. They have depth and an amazing starting XI. They will be without Ibrahimovic and Verratti for the first leg next round though.

but I just can't understand that they aren't Bayern/Juve-ing the French Lique

Ligue 1 is usually the most negative and tactically cautious one among Europe's more popular leagues. I assume that makes it more difficult to gain separation. I also don't believe they are as deep or strong as you suggest. Their front three fit is terrible.

[Ted Lasso]

The funny thing is.

Mourinho provaly going to complain about the ref

Too easy.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1716/champi ... ID=HP_HN_1

[5DOM]

That wasn't 'luck' though...

Do you remember when they got bounced by Barca?

Messi and Robben both missing penalties that would knock them out isn't luck? If that Chelsea CL win wasn't lucky, then no team has ever won anything in football with luck.

Messi's was after a Fabregas dive so if anything we were unlucky there. In the Final, Cech faced 6 spot kicks and guessed correctly all 6 times. That's just good goalkeeping Tell them to take better penalties.

Yesterday's would have been a good example of winning in football with luck, but no

[Maex]

Besides Arjen Robben, every Bayern outfield player in the Starting XI today got either a goal or an assist.

[Foye]

Wasn't expecting this upset. and now Man City is the last english team standing.

Are you forgetting Arsenal ?

Monaco will not conceed three times at home. Its over for Arsene.

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[Ted Lasso]

That wasn't 'luck' though...

Do you remember when they got bounced by Barca?

Messi and Robben both missing penalties that would knock them out isn't luck? If that Chelsea CL win wasn't lucky, then no team has ever won anything in football with luck.

Messi's was after a Fabregas dive so if anything we were unlucky there. In the Final, Cech faced 6 spot kicks and guessed correctly all 6 times. That's just good goalkeeping Tell them to take better penalties.

Yesterday's would have been a good example of winning in football with luck, but no

I'm going to save each of us about five lengthy posts and call this one a case of agree to disagree.

[Ted Lasso]

Wasn't expecting this upset. and now Man City is the last english team standing.

Are you forgetting Arsenal ?

Monaco will not conceed three times at home. Its over for Arsene.

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I doubt that was his point. After all, if it's over for Arsene, it's overer for Man City, as they are even less likely to advance.

[Merc_Porto]

Are you forgetting Arsenal ?

Monaco will not conceed three times at home. Its over for Arsene.

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I doubt that was his point. After all, if it's over for Arsene, it's overer for Man City, as they are even less likely to advance.

Exactly

[CalamityX12]

PSG/Chelsea was an amazing game.... two equalizers off of corners by the Brazilian duo....

Thiago, went from goat to man of the match, had a beautiful header over the stout Courtois... what an ending...

[CalamityX12]

Does Ibra miss one or two games now because of the red?

I like to see PSG do well against non Real Madrid teams, its fun to see them competitive however i'm not sure if I could label them as contenders to win it all just yet....

They do seem dangerous off corners apparently lol

[Ted Lasso]

Does Ibra miss one or two games now because of the red?

The automatic ban is one game. As i understand it, they are highly unlikely to either rescind or extend it.

[CalamityX12]

Does Ibra miss one or two games now because of the red?

The automatic ban is one game. As i understand it, they are highly unlikely to either rescind or extend it.

That's what I understood as well but idk if I'm making this up or didn't hear clearly but sometime after the final whistle, the color commenters were commenting on it and mention Ibra missing both legs due to new rules... maybe it was different context or something.

[magik9113]

Idk about that.

It's hard for me to think otherwise. They have depth and an amazing starting XI. They will be without Ibrahimovic and Verratti for the first leg next round though.

but I just can't understand that they aren't Bayern/Juve-ing the French Lique

Ligue 1 is usually the most negative and tactically cautious one among Europe's more popular leagues. I assume that makes it more difficult to gain separation. I also don't believe they are as deep or strong as you suggest. Their front three fit is terrible.

Their starting lineup is absolutely world class.
in the midfield they can put in Lucas(when not starting over Motta), Cabaye, Rabiot. Maybe their defensive subs could use an upgrade but Van Der Wiel, Digne, Aurier...good players. And what more could they need in attack?

[EArl]

Are you forgetting Arsenal ?

Monaco will not conceed three times at home. Its over for Arsene.

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I doubt that was his point. After all, if it's over for Arsene, it's overer for Man City, as they are even less likely to advance.

I think Man City has a better chance to go ahead than Arsenal. Although we are playing pretty well right now.

[MaliBrah]

Lol no way , we have a much better chance even though it's not that big. City are getting killed at the nou camp.

[treiz]

We were absolutely shocking today, really annoyed at how we couldn't get anything going even with PSG down to 10 men for 90 minutes and still managed to boss that midfield? Fabregas/Ramires/Oscar/Matic couldn't handle Veratti/Motta even when they had to go 4-4-1. You'd think a midfield with any 3 of Cesc/Ramires/Oscar/Matic would outrun and control a 2 man midfield no matter how good they are, but they were all pretty invisible throughout.

Veratti was incredible though, best player on the pitch by far. What a player he is, was really good against us on both legs.

Shocking loss but PSG deserve to go through, they were the better team through and through. Jose messed this up, we should've won this game and despite how bad we were leading on 2 separate occasions needing to close the game our biggest weakness this season (finishing off games) has reared its ugly head again.

It's fair to complain about the flow of the game because Chelsea did not look good yesterday, but let's not forget that's not why they lost. They gave up one chance all game and conceded twice from set-pieces.

Agreed, conceding 2 goals from set pieces is an easy indication of why we didn't deserve to win. But throughout the game PSG was the better team, even when they were down to 10 men they caused more havoc. I don't remember a time when I could clearly say that we were in control.

Sirigu was barely troubled throughout and that might have something to do with Paris setting everybody apart from Cavani behind the ball, but even then we barely had any good chances and that's mainly due to Motta/Veratti bossing the midfield.

[cgf]

When you spend 90 minutes up a man, conceding a couple on set pieces should have no baring on the result. Chelsea lost because they didn't bury after ibra was sent off. Them letting PSG control the match in the second half of regulation and playing lackadaisically is why those set pieces even mattered.

[Ted Lasso]

Ligue 1 is usually the most negative and tactically cautious one among Europe's more popular leagues. I assume that makes it more difficult to gain separation. I also don't believe they are as deep or strong as you suggest. Their front three fit is terrible.

Their starting lineup is absolutely world class.
in the midfield they can put in Lucas(when not starting over Motta), Cabaye, Rabiot. Maybe their defensive subs could use an upgrade but Van Der Wiel, Digne, Aurier...good players. And what more could they need in attack?

Cavani may be world class in a vacuum but you can't get his best out of him out wide. And when Lucas is out they completely lack a player who can break down the defence. Pastore is finally showing some signs of life but he has been a disappointment and he is not meant to be playing on the wing either. Lavezzi is breathtakingly overrated.

They also need Aurier and Digne to come good, like, tomorrow.

They do have fantastic options for their midfield three and a very good goalkeeper though.

[Ted Lasso]

When you spend 90 minutes up a man, conceding a couple on set pieces should have no baring on the result. Chelsea lost because they didn't bury after ibra was sent off. Them letting PSG control the match in the second half of regulation and playing lackadaisically is why those set pieces even mattered.

You are implying that a team which spends 90 of 120 minutes a man up in any match ought to score a minimum of three goals. That is absurd.

In any case, Chelsea lost - literally - because they couldn't defend set pieces. Set piece conversion has zilch to do with the flow of a match (or whether one team is a man down), which is why they are so important to teams that struggle to create chances.

Chelsea had a poor game offensively (Even though they spent 34% of the match in the opponent's third). They never had a dominant, creative stretch and they couldn't find the openings on the counter that they are accustomed to. PSG is to be credited for much of that. But they were also not exactly troubled defensively and gave up one chance in open play all game. If it weren't for a highly improbable two set piece goals conceded in one match, this would have gone down as your classic uninspiring but professional Mourinho CL victory.

[magik9113]

Ligue 1 is usually the most negative and tactically cautious one among Europe's more popular leagues. I assume that makes it more difficult to gain separation. I also don't believe they are as deep or strong as you suggest. Their front three fit is terrible.

Their starting lineup is absolutely world class.
in the midfield they can put in Lucas(when not starting over Motta), Cabaye, Rabiot. Maybe their defensive subs could use an upgrade but Van Der Wiel, Digne, Aurier...good players. And what more could they need in attack?

Cavani may be world class in a vacuum but you can't get his best out of him out wide. And when Lucas is out they completely lack a player who can break down the defence. Pastore is finally showing some signs of life but he has been a disappointment and he is not meant to be playing on the wing either. Lavezzi is breathtakingly overrated.

They also need Aurier and Digne to come good, like, tomorrow.

They do have fantastic options for their midfield three and a very good goalkeeper though.

Fantastic options on defense with Thiago Silva and David Luiz, no? ...Maxwell, Van Der Wiel, Marquinos. Their midfield is fine with Verratti and Motta when Lucas is out. Sure, you don't get the best of Cavani out wide but he plays there better than many wingers. Just my opinion I suppose. Interested to see how they do vs whoever they get matched up with