A petition for the firing Billy King (please help us)

[CalamityX12]

Nothing will get done.... great effort though, let the voices be heard but King will weasel his way out of it...

or MGT don't give a ****...

[FireBillyKing]

I had heard from management. There are people in the organization that understand the situation. We need fan support. This can actually help.

[MrDollarBills]

Just a quick bump. Still looking for more support.

From the other recent threads it appears some fans that had still been giving King a free pass are starting to come around that he has really put this team in a bad place. So please sign the petition over at www.firebillyking.com and let others know.

Thanks.

I signed it.

Sincerely,

William(Bill) "Mr. Dollar Bills" Rodgers

[3pt_chucker]

Billy King needs to go. I;ll do anything to make it happen.

[Pachoo5]

Wow, the comments in this thread blow my mind. How could anyone possibly have thought the swap with the Celtics was a GOOD move for the Nets? That trade will go down as the absolute worst trade in NBA history, a total robbery of the Nets by the Celtics.

And how can anyone possibly think King is anything more than the very worst GM in the entire NBA? It's almost impossible to argue that he is anything but that.

It's crazy the amount of heat the original thread starter got when he was 100% correct.

[kerry kittles]

Wow, the comments in this thread blow my mind. How could anyone possibly have thought the swap with the Celtics was a GOOD move for the Nets? That trade will go down as the absolute worst trade in NBA history, a total robbery of the Nets by the Celtics.

And how can anyone possibly think King is anything more than the very worst GM in the entire NBA? It's almost impossible to argue that he is anything but that.

It's crazy the amount of heat the original thread starter got when he was 100% correct.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1223447#start_here

18 page thread bashing King. We all want him fired. I think people just questioned an online petition working to oust King.

I think the only person whose defended the Wallace trade is F3lon. The rest of us have wanted King fired for a long while.

The Celtics trade was the culmination of many blunders leading up to that point. He admitted he had to give up a pick just to move Wallace. Why sign a 30 year old declining player to a 4 year contract?

[Keith Van Horn]

Signed, thanks.

[Prokorov]

Wow, the comments in this thread blow my mind. How could anyone possibly have thought the swap with the Celtics was a GOOD move for the Nets? That trade will go down as the absolute worst trade in NBA history, a total robbery of the Nets by the Celtics.

And how can anyone possibly think King is anything more than the very worst GM in the entire NBA? It's almost impossible to argue that he is anything but that.

It's crazy the amount of heat the original thread starter got when he was 100% correct.

thats not even the worst trade by the nets in the past 5 years. not close.

the wallace trade was 10000 times worse

the joe trade 10 times worse.

the celtics trade i make in a split second again if i had to. it was the right move. We were locked in to the core we had for 3 more seasons. we ahd no flexibility. the right move was to maximize the window by going over the cap with veterans. that moved got us to the second round of the playoffs... and had we not let pierce go, we likely would be in the playoffs again this season. that was the real mistake, not brining pierce back.

it was a good trade for the celtics too. but lets look at all the facts. they took on by far the worst contract in the deal in gerald wallace, which was huge for the nets, sicne he would have been on the books for 16-17, now all we have is dwill, who will likely be stretched and count just 7.4M that year. it gives us an opportunity to offer 2-3 max deals and rebuild in free agency.

So far, the celtics have gotten james young from the 3 picks they got. the nets got karasev from the assets the celtics gave us. the celtics will need to get some great talent with the 2 other nets picks to really make it look ugly.

but that trade got us in the playoffs and the second round last year. for me thats is worth a TON. im not a fan of the lakers or spurs, seeing my team in the playoffs is not a given.

in classic king fashion, he overpaid with the pick swaps added, but that was a deal we couldnt say no to. and if you look at fan/team/player/media reaction at the time, everyone at least liked it for the nets, some loved it, and bill simmons almost committed suicide he hated it for boston so much.

that isnt to defend billy king. he is the worst GM in american professional sports. and i really hope someone eventually looks into the deal he made with ferry. id be shocked if there wasnt agreement with king giving him extra picks based on ferry backing off the nets job so king could have it

[MrDollarBills]

The Wallace and Johnson trades were abysmal because of the high cost for each player(6th pick, and now a lottery pick swap) and most fans called for his head both times. The Celtics trade everyone was on board with because we all believed if the pieces had all worked we would have had an elite team but that didn't quite work out. The aftermath however, is what makes that trade another stain on King's legacy.

[kerry kittles]

Just looking at this season:

King signed off on a deal to bring Reggie Jackson here. It is rumored that he said he wanted to make him the face of the franchise and was willing to give him a max contract. The Pistons have lost 8 straight. He has a TS% below 44%, is playing continued poor defense, not elevating the play of his teammates.

King rejected:
Trading Joe for Jerepko, Butler, Jennings, plus picks. We were receive garbage players, but it clears $16 million, not that we can do much with it this offseason if just this trade is made. I think it's tough to fully judge this trade without knowing what the picks are. If a 1st was included it's just another fireable offense. 2nds I can understand.

Jack for a pick swap with the Wizards.

Brook for Zeller and Lance.

DWill/Plumlee for Thompson/Derrick Williams/Landry type deal. I may have the pieces a little wrong, but we would've received Williams expiring contract and broken up DWill's contract into smaller contract that could more easily be moved.

At the end of the day I think King should've done them all. Close the chapter on the Big 3 era and write a new chapter. Zeller would replace Plumlee which we'd be essentially swapping one asset for another. Zeller is 11th in the league in DRAPM, and 3 years younger. We would have a better pick this draft, space this summer that we could use on 1 year rentals, and more cap space heading into 2016.

Jackson just would've extended this mess. King apparently ticked off Presti when they nearly had a 3 team deal in January and that may be why King was left with his pants around his ankles and no backup plan at the 11th hour of the trade deadline. There were also some issues with the AK buyout/Philly trade and how that all went down. Did King have a role in anything and did that in anyway lead to Hinkle's decision to sign TRob? Can't say for sure, but can't understand why any team would call up King and not try to swindle him based upon his history. At the end of the day this team will be a laughingstock until King is unemployed.

[FireBillyKing]

The Nets were so very lucky that Reggie Jackson deal didn't happen. King would have had a big grin while signing him to a max contract this summer. Another mediocre PG that would be overpaid and made the 'face of the franchise'. $37 million a season to Deron Williams and Reggie Jackson would have be legendary to pay for two guys that aren't even top 15 PGs.

[NyCeEvO]

The Nets were so very lucky that Reggie Jackson deal didn't happen. King would have had a big grin while signing him to a max contract this summer. Another mediocre PG that would be overpaid and made the 'face of the franchise'. $37 million a season to Deron Williams and Reggie Jackson would have be legendary to pay for two guys that aren't even top 15 PGs.

King just throws Proky's money at the wall and hopes that a contender comes together. That's the only rationale I can provide for his decision-making "skills".

[MrDollarBills]

Yeah we dodged a bullet with that Reggie Jackson deal, we should all be grateful that Sam Presti is a vengeful person because if not we would have been screwed.

[kamaze]

Just looking at this season:

King signed off on a deal to bring Reggie Jackson here. It is rumored that he said he wanted to make him the face of the franchise and was willing to give him a max contract. The Pistons have lost 8 straight. He has a TS% below 44%, is playing continued poor defense, not elevating the play of his teammates.

King rejected:
Trading Joe for Jerepko, Butler, Jennings, plus picks. We were receive garbage players, but it clears $16 million, not that we can do much with it this offseason if just this trade is made. I think it's tough to fully judge this trade without knowing what the picks are. If a 1st was included it's just another fireable offense. 2nds I can understand.
Jack for a pick swap with the Wizards.

Brook for Zeller and Lance.

DWill/Plumlee for Thompson/Derrick Williams/Landry type deal. I may have the pieces a little wrong, but we would've received Williams expiring contract and broken up DWill's contract into smaller contract that could more easily be moved.

At the end of the day I think King should've done them all. Close the chapter on the Big 3 era and write a new chapter. Zeller would replace Plumlee which we'd be essentially swapping one asset for another. Zeller is 11th in the league in DRAPM, and 3 years younger. We would have a better pick this draft, space this summer that we could use on 1 year rentals, and more cap space heading into 2016.

Jackson just would've extended this mess. King apparently ticked off Presti when they nearly had a 3 team deal in January and that may be why King was left with his pants around his ankles and no backup plan at the 11th hour of the trade deadline. There were also some issues with the AK buyout/Philly trade and how that all went down. Did King have a role in anything and did that in anyway lead to Hinkle's decision to sign TRob? Can't say for sure, but can't understand why any team would call up King and not try to swindle him based upon his history. At the end of the day this team will be a laughingstock until King is unemployed.

No player traded for should be the face of the franchise, the previous team traded them for a reason.

It didn't make sense to make the original trade for Perkins, giving up Brook for Reggie Jackson would've been worse. Trade your starting center for a back up point when the team is over the cap and has no 1st round picks would've been a disaster.

Should've made that trade with Detroit Joe's been of this $£\!
Ownership and the GM have no idea what they're doing.

[kerry kittles]

The Nets were so very lucky that Reggie Jackson deal didn't happen. King would have had a big grin while signing him to a max contract this summer. Another mediocre PG that would be overpaid and made the 'face of the franchise'. $37 million a season to Deron Williams and Reggie Jackson would have be legendary to pay for two guys that aren't even top 15 PGs.

King just throws Proky's money at the wall and hopes that a contender comes together. That's the only rationale I can provide for his decision-making "skills".

Yes, he frankly he has no clue what he is doing. I know he was handicapped financially this offseason, but really to mention you like where we stand at PF? It was apparent we had no depth at PF. The only player we had on the roster whose primary position was PF was Mirza. AK and KG could play some there, but they weren't playing to their strengths there and both couldn't be relied upon to stay healthy or play big minutes.

R.C Buford is every bit as an important part of the Spurs dynasty as Pop - carefully retooling, adding players that fit Pop's system. Every decision, piece, a part of a larger plan. King has no plan. He's just spending money on big name players, throwing it together, without a thought of current fit, how things fit into the future plans.

This disaster is squarely on his shoulders.

[Pachoo5]

Wow, the posters at NetsDaily (at least 30%+ of them) seem to actually think King is a good GM. It is blowing my mind. Check out their newest article about Woj making excuses for King (typical Woj).

[Paradise]

Wow, the posters at NetsDaily (at least 30%+ of them) seem to actually think King is a good GM. It is blowing my mind. Check out their newest article about Woj making excuses for King (typical Woj).

I find it comcial people somehow rationalize his decision making as ownerships fault. Ownership does share the blame but I am 100% sure Rasumov or Prokharov didn't instruct Billy King to add in pick swaps into trades. I'm also sure nobody told King to offer Gerald Wallace 40 million.

[MrDollarBills]

The Russians wanted superstars at any cost. King did their bidding, but how he went about it was reckless.

The biggest mistake this franchise made was being so scared that Williams would walk that they made panic moves. Williams was not turning down the money. Look at the state he is in now, he'll never see that kind of money again in his life. He was never leaving that money on the table and the Nets should have gambled on that.

[FireBillyKing]

Billy King and Adrian Wojnarowski are obviously close. Wojnarowski's inside information with the Nets since King became GM is uncanny. Every trade the Nets made or didn't make is always broken by Woj and his insight on deals that don't happen are uncanny. I have to assume King or his people have been leaking stuff to Woj for years. His defense of King is obviously due to his good relationship with the Nets Front Office.

Here is an amazing read about how Woj gets inside scoops and how he treats those that help him vs. those that do not.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/1205 ... his-scoops

[kerry kittles]

Wow, the posters at NetsDaily (at least 30%+ of them) seem to actually think King is a good GM. It is blowing my mind. Check out their newest article about Woj making excuses for King (typical Woj).

I can't stand the defense of King. There was a steady decline of the 6ers every year from making the finals. He never paired a 2nd star with A.I.

He's run two franchises into the ground I can't stand all the excuses for him. The results speak for themselves.

Here's what I was told:

Mentioned the mistake of giving Wallace, a declining player whose game was based so much on altheticism a 4 year $40 million deal,

Was mocked saying I didn't know that contract was for the purpose of trading him.

Like what? That's what the Hump contract was. That's what the Jordan Hill contract this summer was. Short term over market value are contracts signed with he intention of being used in trades. Not a 4 year deal. We gave a pick to move him.

Was told it was DWill's fault for the Wallace trade. That he would've gone to Dallas without Gerald Wallace. That he had to cater to him, he would've been fired if DWill walked.

Given everything King has done without getting fired, I cannot believe that would've done it. Gerald Wallace put up the exact same numbers as a rookie Harrison Barnes. We could've got the same production from someone improving vs declining, 1/3 the price, 10 years younger.

Gave an example of Melo resigning to a team that had missed the playoffs, was going to miss the playoffs again for another year. A team that had no stars, no help. Said Melo signed for the money, Deron would've done the same. And it looks great now because that extra year of max money is doubled what he's receive on the open market.

Was told Melo was different because he had a history, that's why he reigned and Deron loved Dallas.

Was told King is just following orders. That if your boss tells you to do something you do it like the Gerald Wallace. Gave examples of how following orders isn't always the best course of action ie. Enron, worldcom. Was told those involved illegal actions, true, that King agreeing to trades like Wallace the Joe overpay were okay because of orders.

Talked about how all employers want critical thinkers, someone who can think outside the box, come up with new ideas, ways to solve solutions. That groupthink, yes men are not what companies are looking for. That's it's okay to push back, that's healthy. But apparently King was okay in taking orders because it's a trivial thing - just a game - just basketball.