Mgmt. tried to Trade Nash?

[LApwnd]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237039/Lakers-Asked-Steve-Nash-To-Delay-Retirement-Announcement-In-Hopes-Of-Trade

anyone believe this? cause I didn't even hear a peep rumor wise that we were even trying to do any trades at the deadline.

[Laker_Kid]

well im one of those guys who were frustrated at nash cashing in without earning it this season. but after reading that article i kinda saw his point of view but still. i think most people wouldnt be so harsh on him had he tutored jclark earlier in the season. at least he was doing something.

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[dockingsched]

Go ahead, haters. Wind up to hurl more venom at Nash for not even supporting the club that is paying him nearly $10 million this season after all the other disappointment he has brought.

I'd rather clear the air that has been so wrongly polluted.

The only reason Nash isn't retired from basketball already, having put it all behind him, is so he could try to help the Lakers.

Nash was ready to call it a career before the season. After deep soul-searching to accept his body does not belong in an official NBA uniform any longer, he wasn't just out for the season.

He was, and is, done.

The Lakers asked Nash not to announce anything, according to team sources. They hoped they could trade Nash's $9.7 million salary, not only an expiring contract but also a giant coupon for another club to take and immediately save real dollars via insurance, to get a building block for the Lakers' future.

Nash had no duty to be around the team this season, folks. He wasn't dodging or conning anyone. He was retired, as the Lakers brass knew, and he was trying to come to grips with that after having fought harder against it than just about anyone—certainly anyone who accomplished as much as he did in the NBA.

In reality, the Lakers and Nash went about this in the way mature people handle terrible breaks: Do the best you can with a bad hand.

Even though expiring contracts aren't worth nearly what they once were in the NBA marketplace, there was logic to think the Lakers could make a deal. The goal was a classic Lakers trade where some smaller-market team wants to save money and the Lakers don't care so much—or that a club such as the Philadelphia 76ers could use Nash's insurance-offset contract shrewdly to reach the salary-cap floor of minimum payroll—while bringing in an asset. (The Lakers don't have too many of those since their all-in deals to acquire Howard and Nash.)

[eckoner]

well im one of those guys who were frustrated at nash cashing in without earning it this season. but after reading that article i kinda saw his point of view but still. i think most people wouldnt be so harsh on him had he tutored jclark earlier in the season. at least he was doing something.

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Being an optimist i think we might see another "Rudy T" type of relationship here. I never thought Rudy would stick around more than a year or so and i saw him the other night at the game with Mitch like he always is.

Perhaps Steve actually does the same perhaps not full time but coming in to work with young guards.

[Downtown]

If this story is true then it's pretty redeeming for Nash. All he was doing was trying to help the club by laying low without retiring so they could use him as a trade chip to a team that would then be able to get the medical insurance to pay him.

He did what the club asked him to do. Now that the trade deadline has passed he has come out and mentored Clarkson and now there is no reason for him to retire until the season is over.

I think he took a bullet for the team by not responding to the criticism when he easily could have retired. I would call that being pretty loyal, again if this story is true.

[crazyeights]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237039/Lakers-Asked-Steve-Nash-To-Delay-Retirement-Announcement-In-Hopes-Of-Trade

anyone believe this? cause I didn't even hear a peep rumor wise that we were even trying to do any trades at the deadline.

I believe it. Who cares if you hear rumors? The Lakers rarely leak things on their end. Using Nash for the injury exemption, hardship exemption, and then as a trade made the most sense.

Had Randle and Kobe been healthy this season, IMO, we would have made a play for someone to tune up the roster for a PO push.

Either way, it didn't happen.

[GeorgeDillion]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237039/Lakers-Asked-Steve-Nash-To-Delay-Retirement-Announcement-In-Hopes-Of-Trade

anyone believe this? cause I didn't even hear a peep rumor wise that we were even trying to do any trades at the deadline.

I don't but the Nash trade is just water under the bridge to me at this point, he should have retired when last off-season started but I fully expected him to try and make a comeback because it would be hard for anyone to want to end their career on that note.

The reason I don't believe it is because of Ding's article back in November about him possibly convincing Durant to come here"Steve Nash's Absence May Irk Lakers Fans Now but Leave Them Smiling Later"



"One of the absolute worst Lakers superstars of them all with regard to what he actually gave the organization, Steve Nash explained to his friend Durant how the Lakers treated him in a completely first-class way despite the crushing and repeated disappointments he brought to the franchise...and you can tell a lot more about how people treat you in tough times than in glorious ones."

"Somewhere out there, though—even if it is somewhere over the rainbow given how it is such a dream scenario for the Lakers—it remains possible that a happier twist exists for Nash as a Laker.

Ulterior motives are not why the Lakers are trying to do the right thing and let Nash skip team activities this season after he was sidelined with ongoing back issues, but that attitude does dovetail with larger benefit.

To me it just comes off as Ding is pushing an agenda, that Nash is some hidden benefit that ungrateful fans just don't see, I could be wrong but who knows.

[LApwnd]

the thing is to me is that mgmt. was restricting themselves even if they had wanted to deal Nash, they didn't want to take on long contracts, that was the only way anyone would give us assets in return for taking back Nash. The closest trade I saw we might have given thought to was the Mcgee deal where Den gave up a 1st to dump him but fact was he had another year left and Phi will be on the hook for him next season too (cap wise). IMO they have tunnel vision right now, preserve cap space at all cost...which is fine but seems counter intuitive if you're trying to add assets in form of picks.

[crazyeights]

the thing is to me is that mgmt. was restricting themselves even if they had wanted to deal Nash, they didn't want to take on long contracts, that was the only way anyone would give us assets in return for taking back Nash. The closest trade I saw we might have given thought to was the Mcgee deal where Den gave up a 1st to dump him but fact was he had another year left and Phi will be on the hook for him next season too (cap wise). IMO they have tunnel vision right now, preserve cap space at all cost...which is fine but seems counter intuitive if you're trying to add assets in form of picks.

If we keep our pick, we'll have the 2nd most valuable draft assets already for this summer. Lump in Randle's return to that group and I can see why the FO didn't make any trades in general.

We're going to have a lot of youth to develop next year.

[LApwnd]

the thing is to me is that mgmt. was restricting themselves even if they had wanted to deal Nash, they didn't want to take on long contracts, that was the only way anyone would give us assets in return for taking back Nash. The closest trade I saw we might have given thought to was the Mcgee deal where Den gave up a 1st to dump him but fact was he had another year left and Phi will be on the hook for him next season too (cap wise). IMO they have tunnel vision right now, preserve cap space at all cost...which is fine but seems counter intuitive if you're trying to add assets in form of picks.

If we keep our pick, we'll have the 2nd most valuable draft assets already for this summer. Lump in Randle's return to that group and I can see why the FO didn't make any trades in general.

We're going to have a lot of youth to develop next year.

understood but picks can combine with other picks for better picks, trading up...or adding them to net a good player that a team no longer wants. At the rate this team is going I would be worried bout that lottery pick, not that we'll give up naturally by leaping to 6th worse but the ping pong ball bouncing against us. I tried that espn game, its amazing how many times 2 teams outside the top 3 in standings jumped into the top 3 and philly is there at 5/6

[dipstick]

I don't understand whats really new with this news. I think the lakers had been transparent about it and we knew it as well.

The intention for me really wasn't to make a salary dump to save money nor was it to make a trade for the sake of making one as some had been suggesting, but using nash as a trade filler for teams wanting to dump salary Only if the one we were trading for is worth keeping.

The McGee deal as an example, wasn't worth doing In my opinion. What for? You would rather take your chances in the offseason than take in a player that either won't make a difference or you can have cheaper in the offseason.

[aaron_gray]

Too bad expirings aren't worth anything anymore. At least they tried.

[dockingsched]

the thing is to me is that mgmt. was restricting themselves even if they had wanted to deal Nash, they didn't want to take on long contracts, that was the only way anyone would give us assets in return for taking back Nash. The closest trade I saw we might have given thought to was the Mcgee deal where Den gave up a 1st to dump him but fact was he had another year left and Phi will be on the hook for him next season too (cap wise). IMO they have tunnel vision right now, preserve cap space at all cost...which is fine but seems counter intuitive if you're trying to add assets in form of picks.

Another potential use of Nash's contract was to take advantage of the insurance payments that were covering a chunk of his salary. Theoretically he could have been traded for an expiring of around the same value but saved the receiving team millions of dollars in actual money spent.

If such a match existed the Lakers may be could have used it as a way to get a 2nd using a work around of the limit on cash used in trades.

[gamer4Life]

Still should have been with the team at least during home games.

[kblo247]

Management was a bunch of dumbasses, they should have stretched him in the last summer to play free agency so you could pay Melo and Lowry at the same time and so on.

And **** Nash, I don't want to hear that bs narrative when the year before his boy looked out for him and he barely played 10 first quarters some games and was just out there so he wasn't medically retired and cleared off the cap. The only reason he played was to screw la and get the assist record,which he got little by little and then sat after

[TylersLakers]

I think this article is a little off base. I don't think it's about before the season, it's about after the injury happened.

I don't think Nash had any plans to retire before the season. He was going to give it a run. Mitch, the coaching staff, every single player was saying that in the off-season and early training camp, he looked great. He just got hurt again. That's when they asked him to hold off from announcing retirement. Mitch and his agent actually worked together to design the "statement" from him so they still would have the flexibility to trade him.