Countdown to NBA Draft: Prospect Talk

[Deeeez Knicks]

This is where towns is a little more risky. Hard to know for sure if he can produce at a high level with big minutes and put it all together. At the least there's more of an adjustment and development period for towns. Glad that Phil and the Knicks scouts have seen him in practice. Im sure they have a much better seeing him up close. When Phil talked about free agency being a priority and that our pick would be more for the future, it feels like he's describing towns. He's a guy if love to have on the Knicks for sure.

Overall all these young guys are going to have times where they struggle a bit and make mistakes. Just part of the process

[Manhattan Project]

One thing that I'm not looking forward for the next decade, is if the Knicks do indeed get the number one pick there will always be the what if game that trolls will never let go. You can't possibly go wrong with Okafor or Towns and while some of us do like one more than the other, you can't mess this up.

[god4gives]

Okafor got the offense on lock but his defense is wack. His one dimensional offensive game is outdated.

Towns got the defense on lock and his offense is progressing. He has the offensive versatility tools that fits the modern NBA

Frank Da Tank plays well on both ends of the floor. He has a better offensive game than Towns but towns is a better defender. Okafor has a better post game than Kaminsky but frank is still above average in the post and is the better defender. He went up against two 7 foot defensive beasts today (A.J. Hammons & Isaac Haas). One of them is 260lbs and the other is 300lbs. Although Frank didn't score that well he contributed in other areas. This game can probably be good practice if they bump heads with Kentucky

Personally, i prefer the Knicks select Okafor then trade down for two 1st rounders (Kaminsky & Jerian Grant or Delon Wright)

I would be cool if the Knicks selected Karl Towns. Just keep Okafor aka Eddy Curry away from the Knicks. Can't stand his wack defense and his sluggish conditioning

[GONYK]

Okafor got the offense on lock but his defense is wack. His one dimensional offensive game is outdated.

Towns got the defense on lock and his offense is progressing. He has the offensive versatility tools that fits the modern NBA

Frank Da Tank plays well on both ends of the floor. He has a better offensive game than Towns but towns is a better defender. Okafor has a better offensive game than Kaminsky but frank is the better defender. He went up against two 7 foot defensive beasts today (A.J. Hammons & Isaac Haas). One of them is 260lbs and the other is 300lbs. Although Frank didn't score that well he contributed in other areas. This game can probably be good practice if they bump heads with Kentucky

Personally, i prefer the Knicks select Okafor then trade down for two 1st rounders (Kaminsky & Jerian Grant or Delon Wright)

I would be cool if the Knicks selected Karl Towns. Just keep Okafor aka Eddy Curry away from the Knicks. Can't stand his wack defense and his sluggish conditioning

This is just flat out wrong. Especially when considering his place in the Triangle.

[delvec19]

I started out on KT bandwagon since I'm from Jersey and have known about him for 3 years. I switched a few times over the course of the year, but I'm fully back on his bandwagon and that's where I'm staying. #TankforTowns He's the guy I want on this team.

[Pharmcat]

this is the thing with KAT, he plays on a stacked team so you dont know how much of that is helping him exceed in college...but that was a unimpressive performance

[DickGrayson]

this is the thing with KAT, he plays on a stacked team so you dont know how much of that is helping him exceed in college...but that was a unimpressive performance

Hilarious.

[swisscheeseD]

this is the thing with KAT, he plays on a stacked team so you dont know how much of that is helping him exceed in college...but that was a unimpressive performance

Hilarious.

43,738 posts and I don't think I've yet to agree with one of them.

[Manhattan Project]

Yeah quite frankly Towns hasn't shown any improvement at all this year, clearly playing on that stacked team is stunting his growth as a player.[/green]

[JustCame]

Okafor got the offense on lock but his defense is wack. His one dimensional offensive game is outdated.

Towns got the defense on lock and his offense is progressing. He has the offensive versatility tools that fits the modern NBA

Frank Da Tank plays well on both ends of the floor. He has a better offensive game than Towns but towns is a better defender. Okafor has a better offensive game than Kaminsky but frank is the better defender. He went up against two 7 foot defensive beasts today (A.J. Hammons & Isaac Haas). One of them is 260lbs and the other is 300lbs. Although Frank didn't score that well he contributed in other areas. This game can probably be good practice if they bump heads with Kentucky

Personally, i prefer the Knicks select Okafor then trade down for two 1st rounders (Kaminsky & Jerian Grant or Delon Wright)

I would be cool if the Knicks selected Karl Towns. Just keep Okafor aka Eddy Curry away from the Knicks. Can't stand his wack defense and his sluggish conditioning

That's a terrible idea. That's literally the worst thing we could do.

this is the thing with KAT, he plays on a stacked team so you dont know how much of that is helping him exceed in college...but that was a unimpressive performance

Hilarious.

43,738 posts and I don't think I've yet to agree with one of them.

What do you expect when his username is in the color green?

[Bklyn&company]

Not a big Okafor fan, but the game wasn't totally his fault, thats on Coach K.

I still like Towns more but OK4 is still my 1a. Calhoun hit it on the head when he said ok4 "might be too good of a kid".. I have been saying that for a while now... in the NBA he going to get bodied by grown man and wont be able to do what he does now in college unless he develops some type of explosiveness, aggressiveness and his athletic ability goes to another level.... I don't see those high 60% fg from him, more like 50%+ FG...especially if he doesn't develop away from the basket and keeps doing the same post moves ,sure everyone is salivating over a 270lbs big 18 yr old with great foot work but he is still not on most top NBA player levels.. Everyone looks at age but not everyone continues to develop also.

To keep this short the Kid needs work on both ends for the NBA... in college he should be dominating and he is not and that what worries me. I have seen guys like Durant (who was Texas Center), Blake Griffin, Tim Duncan etc.. dominate and that you knew they were going to be good and most played both ends (Griffin not so much). His 9 rebounds per worries me when on every night you are the biggest dude on the court, he should be at 12 rebs plus... this tells me you don't have much explosiveness (play flat footed) and your box out technique is not great. Point is the Kid needs to development areas of his game and more so than a Towns or Kaminski. Thats why a Kaminski can out play him one on one, Towns can also do the same. His work ethic, desire to improve and working on his conditioning is going to determine his level of play in the NBA, from being a sub par defender Carlos Broozer at a 15ppg 8rpg player or a good defender D.Cousins at a 23ppg 10+rbg player.... because if Ok4 was a 6'8 - 6'9 PF, we won't be talking about him as much, but if he was on UK he will be dominating?! but that's another story...

IMO, beyond this College game, he needs to think dominate...he need to improve his conditioning, athletic ability, develop a jumpshot, hit his damn Free throws and improve his ball handling ala D.Cousins and Anthony Davis (notice both UK guys)...

So u think Okafor is going to get bodied in the NBA? I could say the same thing for Towns. Who is he going to box out effectively for rebounds? How is he going to establish post position? Duke seems to play a lot of zone, and it's harder to get defensive rebounds in a zone. He seems to already be a good offensive rebounder. What has Towns done in college other than hustle and play D? If Okafor was on Kentucky, he'd without a doubt still be the clear #1 option. If Towns was on Duke...I'll just say that Justice Winslow would have a much higher usage than he does now.

Ok you are another one that doesn't pay attention, I said Ok4 is my 1a, right? I never compared him to Towns, right? I simple mention some of his current weakness in his game and what he has to work on, right? Yes I believe he won't be able to just push grown men around...(especially the good ones) if he doesn't improve his conditioning... and yes I believe he won't be some awesome player his first year because he has alot work to do to up his game. So what the hell are you talking about?

You'all got to stop with Ok4 is some awesome special player and assuming he is going to be some 25+ ppg 10+ rpg player his first year with his current skill set....because he is 18yr 270lbs and can two step within 5 feet! You all are delusional. He is going to be good offensively at first, but like everyone else he needs work.

[waya]

Okafor got the offense on lock but his defense is wack. His one dimensional offensive game is outdated.

Towns got the defense on lock and his offense is progressing. He has the offensive versatility tools that fits the modern NBA

Frank Da Tank plays well on both ends of the floor. He has a better offensive game than Towns but towns is a better defender. Okafor has a better post game than Kaminsky but frank is still above average in the post and is the better defender. He went up against two 7 foot defensive beasts today (A.J. Hammons & Isaac Haas). One of them is 260lbs and the other is 300lbs. Although Frank didn't score that well he contributed in other areas. This game can probably be good practice if they bump heads with Kentucky

Personally, i prefer the Knicks select Okafor then trade down for two 1st rounders (Kaminsky & Jerian Grant or Delon Wright)

I would be cool if the Knicks selected Karl Towns. Just keep Okafor aka Eddy Curry away from the Knicks. Can't stand his wack defense and his sluggish conditioning

No offense, but thank god you're not our GM.

[BRIGGS]

I think okafor went back to pick #1

[god4gives]

Okafor got the offense on lock but his defense is wack. His one dimensional offensive game is outdated.

Towns got the defense on lock and his offense is progressing. He has the offensive versatility tools that fits the modern NBA

Frank Da Tank plays well on both ends of the floor. He has a better offensive game than Towns but towns is a better defender. Okafor has a better post game than Kaminsky but frank is still above average in the post and is the better defender. He went up against two 7 foot defensive beasts today (A.J. Hammons & Isaac Haas). One of them is 260lbs and the other is 300lbs. Although Frank didn't score that well he contributed in other areas. This game can probably be good practice if they bump heads with Kentucky

Personally, i prefer the Knicks select Okafor then trade down for two 1st rounders (Kaminsky & Jerian Grant or Delon Wright)

I would be cool if the Knicks selected Karl Towns. Just keep Okafor aka Eddy Curry away from the Knicks. Can't stand his wack defense and his sluggish conditioning

No offense, but thank god you're not our GM.

no offense taken. sooner or later you'll be saying that would've been a good idea

kaminsky >>> ok4 aka eddy curry

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Not a big Okafor fan, but the game wasn't totally his fault, thats on Coach K.

I still like Towns more but OK4 is still my 1a. Calhoun hit it on the head when he said ok4 "might be too good of a kid".. I have been saying that for a while now... in the NBA he going to get bodied by grown man and wont be able to do what he does now in college unless he develops some type of explosiveness, aggressiveness and his athletic ability goes to another level.... I don't see those high 60% fg from him, more like 50%+ FG...especially if he doesn't develop away from the basket and keeps doing the same post moves ,sure everyone is salivating over a 270lbs big 18 yr old with great foot work but he is still not on most top NBA player levels.. Everyone looks at age but not everyone continues to develop also.

To keep this short the Kid needs work on both ends for the NBA... in college he should be dominating and he is not and that what worries me. I have seen guys like Durant (who was Texas Center), Blake Griffin, Tim Duncan etc.. dominate and that you knew they were going to be good and most played both ends (Griffin not so much). His 9 rebounds per worries me when on every night you are the biggest dude on the court, he should be at 12 rebs plus... this tells me you don't have much explosiveness (play flat footed) and your box out technique is not great. Point is the Kid needs to development areas of his game and more so than a Towns or Kaminski. Thats why a Kaminski can out play him one on one, Towns can also do the same. His work ethic, desire to improve and working on his conditioning is going to determine his level of play in the NBA, from being a sub par defender Carlos Broozer at a 15ppg 8rpg player or a good defender D.Cousins at a 23ppg 10+rbg player.... because if Ok4 was a 6'8 - 6'9 PF, we won't be talking about him as much, but if he was on UK he will be dominating?! but that's another story...

IMO, beyond this College game, he needs to think dominate...he need to improve his conditioning, athletic ability, develop a jumpshot, hit his damn Free throws and improve his ball handling ala D.Cousins and Anthony Davis (notice both UK guys)...

So u think Okafor is going to get bodied in the NBA? I could say the same thing for Towns. Who is he going to box out effectively for rebounds? How is he going to establish post position? Duke seems to play a lot of zone, and it's harder to get defensive rebounds in a zone. He seems to already be a good offensive rebounder. What has Towns done in college other than hustle and play D? If Okafor was on Kentucky, he'd without a doubt still be the clear #1 option. If Towns was on Duke...I'll just say that Justice Winslow would have a much higher usage than he does now.

Ok you are another one that doesn't pay attention, I said Ok4 is my 1a, right? I never compared him to Towns, right? I simple mention some of his current weakness in his game and what he has to work on, right? Yes I believe he won't be able to just push grown men around...(especially the good ones) if he doesn't improve his conditioning... and yes I believe he won't be some awesome player his first year because he has alot work to do to up his game. So what the hell are you talking about?

You'all got to stop with Ok4 is some awesome special player and assuming he is going to be some 25+ ppg 10+ rpg player his first year with his current skill set....because he is 18yr 270lbs and can two step within 5 feet! You all are delusional. He is going to be good offensively at first, but like everyone else he needs work.

Naw, you don't pay attention. I said I could say the same thing for Towns being bodied...never said u compared the 2. Learn how to read. Everyone is sh*tting on Okafor, but I hear nothing but praise for Towns. Who said he was going to average 25 and 10? Delusional? Stfu and stop talking out of your ass.

[Worst_to_First]

I think okafor went back to pick #1

Which is good as that means that we have a lot more than a 25% chance in landing Towns.

[Fat]

Team Russell has become extinct but fat boy gonna hold the fort down!

[Marty McFly]

alot of ya'll need stop caring about being right and start hoping that whoever the knicks select turns out to be a great player.

[NYKnicksTAPE]

Team Russell has become extinct but fat boy gonna hold the fort down!

I'm still here too bro

[waya]

Okafor got the offense on lock but his defense is wack. His one dimensional offensive game is outdated.

Towns got the defense on lock and his offense is progressing. He has the offensive versatility tools that fits the modern NBA

Frank Da Tank plays well on both ends of the floor. He has a better offensive game than Towns but towns is a better defender. Okafor has a better post game than Kaminsky but frank is still above average in the post and is the better defender. He went up against two 7 foot defensive beasts today (A.J. Hammons & Isaac Haas). One of them is 260lbs and the other is 300lbs. Although Frank didn't score that well he contributed in other areas. This game can probably be good practice if they bump heads with Kentucky

Personally, i prefer the Knicks select Okafor then trade down for two 1st rounders (Kaminsky & Jerian Grant or Delon Wright)

I would be cool if the Knicks selected Karl Towns. Just keep Okafor aka Eddy Curry away from the Knicks. Can't stand his wack defense and his sluggish conditioning

No offense, but thank god you're not our GM.

no offense taken. sooner or later you'll be saying that would've been a good idea

kaminsky >>> ok4 aka eddy curry

Maybe, but I'd rather swing for the fences for a future superstar rather than draft a couple of future role players. There just aren't many players like Kaminsky who become star players, outside of the 1/1,000 chance he can shoot like Dirk in the pros. I'm guessing he ends up a handy stretch big, similar to Matt Bonner.