Neutral 123 wrote:wigglestrue wrote:NO. As far as it is ever being applied to teach kids a lesson about racial privilege that example SUCKS unless its purpose would be undermining its own thesis. Because in any such example, a few black kids should be in the front rows, too, and the rows furthest to the rear should be mostly composed of white kids with an extra black kid or two. Yet, the doctrinaire antiracist will first and foremost insist on imposing a racial dichotomy. If you are a white kid in a back row who objects that a racial lens is not the best way to understand the unfairness, is itself unfair by lumping the white kids in the back with the ones in the front despite their vastly different circumstances, then you will be scolded for not appreciating that the black kids in the front are positioned inches behind their white front row neighbors, for not noticing that your seat in the rearmost row is actually several inches closer to the basket than the seats of black kids sharing your row. "But...it's still 20 ******* feet away." Which, like any objection, only serves to demonstrate your own blindness to how good you have things as a white student, since white students are disproportionately closer to the basket on average. "But I'm not. Don't I count?" No, your individual condition does not count, you are a mere anecdote, the only thing that counts is that you surrender to the antiracist dogma that there are essential differences dividing the races reflected in every instance of a disparate impact per statistical averages. So, **** that example in the context of this thread.
Well one, it should be common sense that there aren't simple two lines, one close and white, and one far and black. It is common sense that there is even some overlap. The reality is that even low income whites, tend to have higher levels of accumulated wealth than blacks with considerably higher incomes. The analogy demonstrates that there are generally less obstacles that most whites will encounter in life. That's not to say that all whites have it easy, or that there aren't some blacks that do have it easy, but overwhelmingly, blacks will face obstacles that most whites will not face. You are confusing missing a short shot, with being forced to take a long shot.
I'm confusing nothing. You seem not to have comprehended the post you quoted, because your take was
EXACTLY what I figured it would be. Read it again, this time with the sense that there might be some reasons in there for you to feel
SHAME. You are, as predicted, scolding the white kids in the back row for not caring first and foremost about the relative advantage supposedly afforded them via their membership in a club they and their families have never or barely if ever benefitted from but that you insist they belong to despite not knowing jack **** about any of them except for their skin color. You're taking what ought to be the natural ground for membership in the same club as their black back row neighbors, and you're instead
SEGREGATING the whites from the blacks. In other words:
YOU'RE BEING RACIST.
It's inversely equivalent to the racist logic used by, say, the insufferably patronizing white lady teacher in Everybody Hates Chris. "Poor white kid, don't you realize how many advantages you have?" You think you already know things about people based on nothing but their complexion. THAT IS A MAJOR PROBLEM.
The root of it is your ideology. Just like Bill, you reify rate averages, tendencies, generalities into
essential racial differences. At the same time negating -- or demoting to statistical insignificance, same difference -- discrete individual realities and subcultural factors which don't conform to the particular racialized narrative you're pot-committed to propagating. While you pay lip service to intersectionality and complexity, it does not change the fact that you are STILL DOING THOSE UNWISE AND UNFAIR AND
RACIST THINGS. All you're doing is
NOTHING BUT A DIFFERENT KIND OF STEREOTYPING.
I don't blame you as much as I blame whatever sociology classes have probably warped your brain. You might
actually feel like rate discrepancies have more substance and meaning than, say, the utterly-unprivileged daily lives of millions of individual poor white people. You are WRONG. Correct yourself.
What's funny though is that if whites, especially the poor ones could move past their racism, they could likely help demand reform that could stem the tide of 3 plus decades of stagnant wages for the working class. Unfortunately these drones would rather waste tome defending their racism to their own peril. Oh well.
It's just the fault of those ignorant poor whites, eh? Gee, you think maybe the left's insatiable fetish for pushing a narrative of fundamental racial divides has anything to do with poor whites not realizing that they and poor blacks share
almost all the same problems? And why do most poor blacks also fail to realize the same thing? Are they also ignorant racists? Or are they also being conditioned as a long-term strategy by ideologues to perceive racial conflicts ahead of and instead of class ones? Hmm?
I'll ask you the same question I asked Bill. How much time do you spend pondering the possibility that you have become the enemy without realizing it?