2013 Draft: Ranking by Trade Value: Top 10 done.

[bondom34]

Yeah, I'm with Chuck. I don't see anyone else who fetches the Lakers pick I go MCW and Adams next

[Patsfan1081]

Lol Len> Noel. Hands down from this season alone

I like Len's potential a lot, but Len is right up there with MKG as player that teams fans overate the most. Noel is having a much better year and he's a rookie.

[goober]

Being a Magic fan, I'd only take Giannis over Oladipo, hoping he turns his potential into something. There is absolutely no way I'd take one of Gobert or Noel for Oladipo, not a chance..

Gobert is already making one of the biggest defensive impacts in the entire NBA, add in his extremely high ceiling, he's arguably more valuable than Giannis.

I would take Gobert over Oladipo ten times out of ten without question

[WhatsaTDot]

Being a Magic fan, I'd only take Giannis over Oladipo, hoping he turns his potential into something. There is absolutely no way I'd take one of Gobert or Noel for Oladipo, not a chance..

Gobert is already making one of the biggest defensive impacts in the entire NBA, add in his extremely high ceiling, he's arguably more valuable than Giannis.

I would take Gobert over Oladipo ten times out of ten without question

So the ORL fan would take Oladipo every day and then twice on Sunday while the Jazz fan would take Gobert 10/10.

Color me shocked.

[Dcebucks11]

Being a Magic fan, I'd only take Giannis over Oladipo, hoping he turns his potential into something. There is absolutely no way I'd take one of Gobert or Noel for Oladipo, not a chance..

Gobert is already making one of the biggest defensive impacts in the entire NBA, add in his extremely high ceiling, he's arguably more valuable than Giannis.

I would take Gobert over Oladipo ten times out of ten without question

So the ORL fan would take Oladipo every day and then twice on Sunday while the Jazz fan would take Gobert 10/10.

Color me shocked.

Duh its how it works, fan bases hype up their own young players.

[wickedwrister]

Yeah, I'm with Chuck. I don't see anyone else who fetches the Lakers pick I go MCW and Adams next

same here, I think most likely one or both of Dieng or Len who are much steadier will have better careers but MCW has by far the highest ceiling of the guys left.

[loserX]

I'm very curious to hear who keeps voting for Shabazz.

[HartfordWhalers]

I'm very curious to hear who keeps voting for Shabazz.

Well, the Timberwolves said that ESPN said if the draft were redone Dieng would go 1st, and Shabazz 3rd, so 5th is underrated?



I hate how convoluted I had to word that, but checking espn archives I cannot find any such claim ever by espn, although I am not implying that it didn't happen, just that the letter appears sloppy (Lavine and Levine) and such a claim seems silly at any point I can think of.

[bondom34]

Yeah, I'm with Chuck. I don't see anyone else who fetches the Lakers pick I go MCW and Adams next

same here, I think most likely one or both of Dieng or Len who are much steadier will have better careers but MCW has by far the highest ceiling of the guys left.

The thing is, I definitely don't think I'd vote this way if it were best players, I just don't see any other guys here who'd get that Lakers pick in a trade.

[HartfordWhalers]

Yeah, I'm with Chuck. I don't see anyone else who fetches the Lakers pick I go MCW and Adams next

same here, I think most likely one or both of Dieng or Len who are much steadier will have better careers but MCW has by far the highest ceiling of the guys left.

The thing is, I definitely don't think I'd vote this way if it were best players, I just don't see any other guys here who'd get that Lakers pick in a trade.

I know this is a little unfair to ask, but could MCW if he was traded right now get that much?

The Wallace for the Nets oick was a trade at the time that everyone agreed wasn't Wallace's value at the time. Trades happen at unfair values. I would argue that the Timberwolves got more than Love was worth. So, if MCW got (considerably) more than he was worth at the time, does it matter for what he is really worth?

{I personally don;t think it was that big of an overpay, but I like MCW a lot.}

[bondom34]

same here, I think most likely one or both of Dieng or Len who are much steadier will have better careers but MCW has by far the highest ceiling of the guys left.

The thing is, I definitely don't think I'd vote this way if it were best players, I just don't see any other guys here who'd get that Lakers pick in a trade.

I know this is a little unfair to ask, but could MCW if he was traded right now get that much?

The Wallace for the Nets oick was a trade at the time that everyone agreed wasn't Wallace's value at the time. Trades happen at unfair values. I would argue that the Timberwolves got more than Love was worth. So, if MCW got (considerably) more than he was worth at the time, does it matter for what he is really worth?

{I personally don;t think it was that big of an overpay, but I like MCW a lot.}

Amazing trade for you guys honestly. I'd put Adams ahead of him as a player, I just struggle with that trade.

[jbk1234]

I think Oladipo is clearly behind Gobert/Giannis in terms of trade value, but thats just me

Agreed. I think Gobert would get you twice the return value of Dipo.

[HartfordWhalers]

Voting is all over the place for 5th, make your cases and sway some undecideds?

[Golabki]

one of 2 players averaging 17/4/4+ (the other being Harden), but yea, he hasnt had a great season.

Those are above average SG numbers, just like I said. Aaron Afflalo would probably be putting up extremely similar numbers as the first option on that team. Oladipo is good, I like him. But I think he ends up being a 3rd option on a championship team type of player. I simply think Giannis and Gobert can have more impact than that

above average numbers that only 1 other person is doing. and he is having a bad season. also provides very good defense, a true 2 way player. Something that Gobert isnt. And producing more than Giannis is on a nightly basis.

1. Your picking per game stats, which we know are flawed, and picking an arbitrary cut off to compare Dipo to Harden. Dipo has had a good year, I don't think anyone would deny that, he's shown some ability to get into the lane and score or pass out... which is great... but...
2. Reality is that the majority of non-magic fans would prefer Gainnis and Gobert.

[Sixteen]

Dipo would be second for me.

Giannis
Dipo
Noel
Gobert
MCW

[Mattya]

I'm very curious to hear who keeps voting for Shabazz.

Well, the Timberwolves said that ESPN said if the draft were redone Dieng would go 1st, and Shabazz 3rd, so 5th is underrated?



I hate how convoluted I had to word that, but checking espn archives I cannot find any such claim ever by espn, although I am not implying that it didn't happen, just that the letter appears sloppy (Lavine and Levine) and such a claim seems silly at any point I can think of.

It's like the philly fans who quote the one ESPN article about Noel making a case for Rookie of the year over Wiggins. Just silly right!

[shrink]

Player A: FG 49.9%, RPG 8.6, PPG 9.5, no injury history
Player B: FG 45.2%, RPG 7.8, PPG 9.1, major injury history, 2-3 times as expensive.

We are potentially 140 games into theses sophomore's careers. Ranking is always subjective, but I think I put more importance on what they have actually done rather than their 2013 mock draft spot.

[HartfordWhalers]

I'm very curious to hear who keeps voting for Shabazz.

Well, the Timberwolves said that ESPN said if the draft were redone Dieng would go 1st, and Shabazz 3rd, so 5th is underrated?



I hate how convoluted I had to word that, but checking espn archives I cannot find any such claim ever by espn, although I am not implying that it didn't happen, just that the letter appears sloppy (Lavine and Levine) and such a claim seems silly at any point I can think of.

It's like the philly fans who quote the one ESPN article about Noel making a case for Rookie of the year over Wiggins. Just silly right!

I dunno, maybe its me, but there is a world of difference between thinking the guy that most people have in second and a lot of statistical measures have in first for first, than saying 2 guys that are closer to 10th would both be in the top 3. One is a legitimate argument, and one is absurd. But, otherwise, similar?

[Mattya]

Well, the Timberwolves said that ESPN said if the draft were redone Dieng would go 1st, and Shabazz 3rd, so 5th is underrated?



I hate how convoluted I had to word that, but checking espn archives I cannot find any such claim ever by espn, although I am not implying that it didn't happen, just that the letter appears sloppy (Lavine and Levine) and such a claim seems silly at any point I can think of.

It's like the philly fans who quote the one ESPN article about Noel making a case for Rookie of the year over Wiggins. Just silly right!

I dunno, maybe its me, but there is a world of difference between thinking the guy that most people have in second and a lot of statistical measures have in first for first, than saying 2 guys that are closer to 10th would both be in the top 3. One is a legitimate argument, and one is absurd. But, otherwise, similar?

Both are significant differences. Both are silly.

[loserX]

That letter also describes a 32-year-old Kevin Martin as "emerging". I wouldn't worry too much about it

As for the current poll...man, I don't know. I'm torn between Len and MCW at the moment.