3/15 hawks at lakers

[DirtybirdGA]

No lineups or images tonight lol

[DirtybirdGA]

No jeff,demarre or Paul.

[ATL Boy]

Korver broke his nose.

[Romerowned]

[atlantabbq99]

Good win. Kind of a boring game. Nothing to really get excited about, its just the lakers. Good that the starters got rest and Moose, and Jenkins got some playing time.

[Hawk Eye]

I'm starting to become really concerned that Schröeder could become a Reggie Jackson situation where he would force his way out of ATL if he isn't given the starting PG role two seasons from now or maybe even as early as next season. Made a thread about it on the GB

[atlantabbq99]

I'm starting to become really concerned that Schröeder could become a Reggie Jackson situation where he would force his way out of ATL if he isn't given the starting PG role two seasons from now or maybe even as early as next season. Made a thread about it on the GB

I already know that is going to happen with Dennis and Scott. Its a natural part of the NBA, not a big deal.

[Renmazuo]

I think the Hawks might look to trade Teague this offseason if they can get equal value for him. With 2 years left on his deal. They could get a nice return. Make no mistake this team is Dennis either next year or year after. Teague more or less has been a place holder until Dennis was ready. Book on Dennis was 2-3 years away coming out of the draft.

[ATLHawksfan21]

I'm starting to become really concerned that Schröeder could become a Reggie Jackson situation where he would force his way out of ATL if he isn't given the starting PG role two seasons from now or maybe even as early as next season. Made a thread about it on the GB

The dennis and reggie situations are not very similar. Coach bud will go with the hot hand at the end of games while there was a 0% chance that reggie would ever close a game over westbrook.

We have the rights for dennis locked up for another 5 years minimum and he's going nowhere.

I say hold on to teague for one more year at least. Im not against trading Teague after next year if there is a deal out there. Im just not sure there will be. The PG is easily the deepest position in this league. I would rather keep teague and his cheap contract than dump him if the offer isn't right. Either way, this will likely be schroders team in 2 years.

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[Jamaaliver]

I am relieved to see some of the fans here starting to see how special Dennis is. His current per 36 avg are at like 17 points & 7 asts for the season. For the month of March he's avg 15 ppg and 7 assists. He is essentially putting up starting PG production in backup minutes.

Teague is a good player. No doubt. But DS seems to have that rare star quality that can't be taught. I agree this is Dennis's team sooner than later. And now I hope we pool our resources into finding the perfect young backcourt mate for him.

It's weird to think that Schroder was 3rd on the depth chart back in November, actually earning a DNP-CD in the second game. And now he's being viewed by a growing number of fans as the heir apparent at PG.

Korver broke his nose.

This one definitely burns and changes the way we play. I was not a fan of our depth coming into the season. Though some of the backups have played well all season, this will be a serious test for us moving forward.

[Rip2137]

And Teague is averaging 19-8 per 36 with fewer turnovers.... Not a star player, but Schroder totally is a star because...um...he has a dyed spot in his hair?(yes...that's a joke)

Also he is putting up starting point guard production in 25+ minutes a night. That's...about right.

Schroder is going to want starting spot, no doubt, but I see no point in trading Teague seeing as Jeff is easily going to be the better player for the life of his contract.

Dennis Schroder still looks like Leandro Barbosa with better defense. I can only hope that he embraces this role as game changing backup like Barbosa did and we will be a better team, but I doubt that will be sufficient for him. I hope he learns to be a sufficient playmaker in the offseason so that maybe a few years from now he can be the starter(he will be younger than Teague and if he is better than he is now, that's a no brainer). I also need see him grow up a lot too. I get a little tired of watching him bark at teammates and blame them because they didn't catch that pass he threw at their ankle.

[azuresou1]

Not getting the JT hate when he's clearly leaps and bounds better than DS both as a player but also as a locker room leader.

Teague has higher per 36 stats, higher TS%, a higher AST%, a lower TOV%, better steal rate, astronomically better block rate, shoots 3s at a higher rate, draws and converts FTs at a higher rate, and has a massively better on/off rate (9.8 vs -9.1) as well as RPM (3.3 vs. -2.0).

Dennis rebounds at a slightly better rate.

[Jamaaliver]

Not getting the JT hate when he's clearly leaps and bounds better than DS both as a player but also as a locker room leader.

Teague has higher per 36 stats, higher TS%, a higher AST%, a lower TOV%, better steal rate, astronomically better block rate, shoots 3s at a higher rate, draws and converts FTs at a higher rate, and has a massively better on/off rate (9.8 vs -9.1) as well as RPM (3.3 vs. -2.0).

Dennis rebounds at a slightly better rate.

No one. I mean no one is hating on Jeff Teague. I have been nothing but complimentary of him this season.

Dennis is special. Teagu'es value is really high. And with a low cost alternative (Dennis) giving similar production for a fraction of the cost, it's not out of the realm of consideration. I know Rip thinks DS is equal to Lou Williams and believes Teague has more value than Russ Westbrook.

But Mike, if we can gain $5+ million in cap space & acquire a top piece while maintaining the same overall level of play at starting PG...you don't think that would be something to consider this summer?

[Maf]

That hurt my eyes.

[Jamaaliver]

And Teague is averaging 19-8 per 36 with fewer turnovers.... Not a star player, but Schroder totally is a star because...um...he has a dyed spot in his hair?(yes...that's a joke)

Also he is putting up starting point guard production in 25+ minutes a night. That's...about right.

Schroder is going to want starting spot, no doubt, but I see no point in trading Teague seeing as Jeff is easily going to be the better player for the life of his contract.

RIP brings up a really good point I hadn't realized. In recent weeks, we've seen Bud pull back on Teague's minutes and dole most of those out to Dennis. During this time, has actually managed to match Teague's production in fewer minutes. Though, admittedly, he's been less efficient doing it.

I think it's really telling the amount of responsibility Bud has shifted over to DS. Even playing the two together with JT essentially playing off-guard and DS running the point.

[PandaKidd]

2 Things i can tell is

1) DS is still young
2) JT is more polished/explosive

Their games are VERY different. JT is a freak of nature athletically. Im not going to say he is Bledsoe, but hes close. He is just a big solid muscular guard who can jump and hes a freight train.

DS is more finesse which can lead to turnovers. He looks very simliar to Rondo to me (in terms of body type and ball handling). Not quite the handles Rondo HAD in his prime, but close. He has a 100 times better shot and delivery than Rondo. you can also tell hes still figuring it all out. Hes very unsure sometimes. hes not completely acting on instinct, where I think Jeff is now.

Their games are very different and Ill say this, DS is the better pick and roll/ pick and pop guard. His entry passes are VASTLY superior to JTs.

I honestly dont want to get rid of either but, if push comes to shove, Teague will be the one leaving, hes the oldest and he will be getting big money soon. I dont think ATL sees JT as a franchise style PG like Tony Parker

[azuresou1]

But Mike, if we can gain $5+ million in cap space & acquire a top piece while maintaining the same overall level of play at starting PG...you don't think that would be something to consider this summer?

No, for the reason that you're not going to get a top piece which can produce value equivalent to the difference between Teague and Mack for that $5M. On top of that, that new piece is going to be taking minutes from someone else, most likely DeMarre or Korver or both. So the new addition has to significantly outperform their expected value as well.

Basically, unless we get a Paul George or better tier player for that $5M I'm not trading Teague. And no team with a PG-tier player for $5M is going to trade him in the first place.

[PandaKidd]

Do we have the SG of our future on the roster right now? my answer is no. Korver likely moves to the bench in a 6th man role?

I could see us making a play for a top tier SG to go next to DS but prob not at the expense of Teague

[atlantabbq99]

Do we have the SG of our future on the roster right now? my answer is no. Korver likely moves to the bench in a 6th man role?

I could see us making a play for a top tier SG to go next to DS but prob not at the expense of Teague

D'Angelo Russell
Emmanuel Mudiay
Stanley Johnson
Justise Winslow
Kelly Oubre
Devin Booker
Justin Anderson
Caris LeVert

Hopefully the Hawks are lucky enough to get Okafor or Towns, but if not, it shouldn't be too hard to get a SG/SF for the future.

[atlantabbq99]

Everything is going well for now, no point in blowing up the roster. Team chemistry is at an all time high.