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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#741 » by Qwigglez » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:06 am

kennydorglas wrote:Anthony Davis is just unbelievable. Jesus Christ.


What's crazy is that he gets a lot of his buckets off his mid-range jumper. He is hardly a post player. I think Kieff has more post moves than AD. Which is unbelievable, because it just shows he has plenty of room for growth.
I like watching the Pels play because they utilize AD very effectively. They feed him in the post, around the perimeter, and they just play to his strengths. They allow him to learn where he can be effective and figure out his strengths and weaknesses on the court. I tend to believe if we used Len in the same way he can develop more quickly.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#742 » by saintEscaton » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:39 am

Yeah we'll be overtaken by Utah, NOLA and Minny in no time. As much as we like to value our core of youth since they're all we have, they are nothing in comparison to those teams
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#743 » by Son of Ra » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:10 am

Young gun 6 wrote:For the 1068th time you can't use a player's per36 in an argument when he averages 15 minutes per game at Milwaukee. Yes Ennis passing looks good but Jesus you guys are overrating him. He is basically Kendall marshall 2.0 with a bit more athleticism and no 3 point shot. He had good passing and vision, an awful shot and no defense. If you've been watching any vision of the Milwaukee games his defense has been sub par which has been said by Milwaukee fans too who want to overrate him more than anyone else.

I see absolutely NO WAY he ever becomes an all star. I'd be surprised if he ever averaged over 15/10/4 in a season. If he lives up to what he looks like I could see maybe 10/8/3/1 on 38/30/80 shooting.

I basically agree with you on the use of the per36 stat. Thinking that to myself often enough as well. Hence I added that he looks good out on the court. Still maintaining the bottom line of my post (even though I'd be willing to bet against him being an all-star by 2019)
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#744 » by TeamTragic » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:32 am

bwgood77 wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:In the last two weeks, Utah has beaten Memphis, Portland and San Antonio, all by at least 9, and Gobert has averaged about 15 boards a game (didn't even check blocks). Hayward, Favors, Gobert...not a bad young core.....and then you still have Exum who could turn into something.


Utah now has a better core than we do. Honestly we need to hand out pink slips.


And they beat Houston by 18 tonight.


Closing the gap and climbing the ranks. Gobert is the truth.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#745 » by Frank Lee » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:24 pm

A good trade to gather assets/picks... a couple of good picks and a diamond in the rough late one... and no concern of trying to rebuild AND contend/compete for an extra 2-3 playoff game revenue.

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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#746 » by RunDogGun » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:26 pm

Utah, dang, totally benefitted from our stupidity, just like OKC. And under two different owners, so we can't blame it onSarver. To get rid of Googs, who we shouldn't have signed in the first place, we traded away an unprotected first from NY, which turned into Hayward. We could have drafted Gobert if we had wanted. Plus there was a lot of movement in that draft, and we may have received a few picks for our fifth pick, and still drafted centers like Adams or Gobert.

Oh well, they are gelling, and we are not. Plus with injuries, trades, and up and down play, we will have a hard time getting a rhythm going.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#747 » by RunDogGun » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:30 pm

The Heat recalled Zoran from the DLeague. Strange that he was fine with being sent down once traded. :-? Maybe our FO didn't ask him nicely enough? :roll:
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#748 » by TeamTragic » Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:54 pm

RunDogGun wrote:Utah, GOD DAMN IT, totally benefitted from our stupidity, just like OKC. And under two different owners, so we can't blame it onSarver. To get rid of Googs, who we shouldn't have signed in the first place, we traded away an unprotected first from NY, which turned into Hayward. We could have drafted Gobert if we had wanted. Plus there was a lot of movement in that draft, and we may have received a few picks for our fifth pick, and still drafted centers like Adams or Gobert.

Oh well, they are gelling, and we are not. Plus with injuries, trades, and up and down play, we will have a hard time getting a rhythm going.


Sarver needs to understand that in the NBA even small mistakes will haunt you forever. This organization has had the worst luck I've ever seen and we are honestly cursed. Time to to move on Sarver. Cash out and let someone else steer the ship.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#749 » by TeamTragic » Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:57 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... h-Pelicans

GIVE HIM **** EVERYTHING! KEY TO THE CITY, WOMEN, MONEY.....EVERYTHING!!!! :lol:
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#750 » by RunDogGun » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:33 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Utah, GOD DAMN IT, totally benefitted from our stupidity, just like OKC. And under two different owners, so we can't blame it onSarver. To get rid of Googs, who we shouldn't have signed in the first place, we traded away an unprotected first from NY, which turned into Hayward. We could have drafted Gobert if we had wanted. Plus there was a lot of movement in that draft, and we may have received a few picks for our fifth pick, and still drafted centers like Adams or Gobert.

Oh well, they are gelling, and we are not. Plus with injuries, trades, and up and down play, we will have a hard time getting a rhythm going.


Sarver needs to understand that in the NBA even small mistakes will haunt you forever. This organization has had the worst luck I've ever seen and we are honestly cursed. Time to to move on Sarver. Cash out and let someone else steer the ship.

Please don't edit my posts, thank you. :D I don't think Sarver had anything to do with signing or trading Googs.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#751 » by Revived » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:11 am

Dragic with 20, 10 & 5 in a win over the Cavs.

Psh yea glad that scrub ain't here no more!
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#752 » by RunDogGun » Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:40 am

Didn't Bledsoe just have a 21/9/11 game? With only three turnover.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#753 » by Mr Puddles » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:09 am

RunDogGun wrote:Utah, dang, totally benefitted from our stupidity, just like OKC. And under two different owners, so we can't blame it onSarver. To get rid of Googs, who we shouldn't have signed in the first place, we traded away an unprotected first from NY, which turned into Hayward. We could have drafted Gobert if we had wanted. Plus there was a lot of movement in that draft, and we may have received a few picks for our fifth pick, and still drafted centers like Adams or Gobert.

Oh well, they are gelling, and we are not. Plus with injuries, trades, and up and down play, we will have a hard time getting a rhythm going.


In all fairness, almost every team passed on Gobert , even the team that ended up drafting him didn't use their first pick in the draft on him - can't really blame Suns ownership for that. The only fans that can legitimately be pissed off about not having Gobert on their team are Nuggets supporters.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#754 » by Sunsss » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:12 am

RunDogGun wrote:Didn't Bledsoe just have a 21/9/11 game? With only three turnover.

Some guy today with 5/14 shooting and 6 turnovers as they barely beat the Lakers. I heard his dad named him Stephen. What a scrub.







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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#755 » by RunDogGun » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:27 am

Mr Puddles wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Utah, dang, totally benefitted from our stupidity, just like OKC. And under two different owners, so we can't blame it onSarver. To get rid of Googs, who we shouldn't have signed in the first place, we traded away an unprotected first from NY, which turned into Hayward. We could have drafted Gobert if we had wanted. Plus there was a lot of movement in that draft, and we may have received a few picks for our fifth pick, and still drafted centers like Adams or Gobert.

Oh well, they are gelling, and we are not. Plus with injuries, trades, and up and down play, we will have a hard time getting a rhythm going.


In all fairness, almost every team passed on Gobert , even the team that ended up drafting him didn't use their first pick in the draft on him - can't really blame Suns ownership for that. The only fans that can legitimately be pissed off about not having Gobert on their team are Nuggets supporters.

I wasn't mad at the FO for passing on Gobert' for there is still a lot of upside in Len. Just kind of laughing at this, "oh Utah is doing right", idea. They found a grove, winning is usually a result of that. We didn't come into the season looking to play for each other.

Guys seemed to come into the season more with individual in mind. Bledsoe maybe wanting to prove he was worth the contract, but is rushing things. Maybe agora wanted to prove he is the man on the team, and didn't feel from the get go, that he would get that role, and dint try to steal it either. IT came in wanting to prove he was a starter, and with inconsistent starts from both Bledsoe and Goran, saw his chance to prove it. Morrii, wanting to prove they are starters, but think that scoring is what makes you a star, and the other aspects can take a little bit of a backseat(not huge, but enough to effect both ends of the floor in a bad way.) Green and Plumlee just not living up to what they did with basically the same group. Archie, Len, and Warren wanting to prove their worth. There was a lot more "me" ball to go around.

But things are starting, slowly, to build from ISO.goodwin is so much more in control than he was this summer, the DLeague was used really well, and it seems to be paying off. I'd still like a little more Bullock than either Green or Thornton, but the staff could feel they might want to keep one, so have them try out some minutes. I an understand that.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#756 » by Ryu » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:46 am

Mr Puddles wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Utah, dang, totally benefitted from our stupidity, just like OKC. And under two different owners, so we can't blame it onSarver. To get rid of Googs, who we shouldn't have signed in the first place, we traded away an unprotected first from NY, which turned into Hayward. We could have drafted Gobert if we had wanted. Plus there was a lot of movement in that draft, and we may have received a few picks for our fifth pick, and still drafted centers like Adams or Gobert.

Oh well, they are gelling, and we are not. Plus with injuries, trades, and up and down play, we will have a hard time getting a rhythm going.


In all fairness, almost every team passed on Gobert , even the team that ended up drafting him didn't use their first pick in the draft on him - can't really blame Suns ownership for that. The only fans that can legitimately be pissed off about not having Gobert on their team are Nuggets supporters.


I remember right before that draft guys at BrightSideOfTheSun were made a mock draft (with trades and all - they traded Gortat for Blazers` 10th pick and Freeland) and they took Gobert with the 10th pick after taking Oladipo with the 5th.

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2013/ ... in/4204237
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#757 » by bwgood77 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:01 am

Wow, SA up 99-98 on NY with a couple of minutes left in OT. Perhaps that NY win wasn't as unimpressive as we thought. SA is full strength too.

And Lou Admunson with 16 boards.

Edit: Knicks win! Lou did it for them. Pelicans luck out in beating the Bucks. Illy had a wide open 3 to win it and it was about as close as you can get. I seriously doubt we make it, and if we don't, I really hope OKC does over the Pelicans, as long as OKC is healthy by then. If Durant has a chance in further injuring his foot because it takes a long time to heal with those injuries though, maybe it is better if they didn't make it, but that would just suck for them to blow three postseasons in a row because of injuries. I hate bad luck due to injuries.
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#758 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:22 am

bwgood77 wrote:And Lou Admunson with 16 boards.

I want Sweet Lou back
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Re: Around The NBA: 2014/2015 

Post#759 » by Mr Puddles » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:28 am

Ryu wrote:
Mr Puddles wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Utah, dang, totally benefitted from our stupidity, just like OKC. And under two different owners, so we can't blame it onSarver. To get rid of Googs, who we shouldn't have signed in the first place, we traded away an unprotected first from NY, which turned into Hayward. We could have drafted Gobert if we had wanted. Plus there was a lot of movement in that draft, and we may have received a few picks for our fifth pick, and still drafted centers like Adams or Gobert.

Oh well, they are gelling, and we are not. Plus with injuries, trades, and up and down play, we will have a hard time getting a rhythm going.


In all fairness, almost every team passed on Gobert , even the team that ended up drafting him didn't use their first pick in the draft on him - can't really blame Suns ownership for that. The only fans that can legitimately be pissed off about not having Gobert on their team are Nuggets supporters.


I remember right before that draft guys at BrightSideOfTheSun were made a mock draft (with trades and all - they traded Gortat for Blazers` 10th pick and Freeland) and they took Gobert with the 10th pick after taking Oladipo with the 5th.

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2013/ ... in/4204237


I remember Gobert initially being projected in the late lottery, but then suffered a foot injury and had pre-draft workouts where he looked slow and got destroyed by other bigs causing his stock to plummet.

A line-up of Bledsoe, Oladipo, Tucker, Keiff, Gobert would have been insane defensively and on the boards.
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Post#760 » by Mr Puddles » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:34 am

RunDogGun wrote:
Mr Puddles wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Utah, dang, totally benefitted from our stupidity, just like OKC. And under two different owners, so we can't blame it onSarver. To get rid of Googs, who we shouldn't have signed in the first place, we traded away an unprotected first from NY, which turned into Hayward. We could have drafted Gobert if we had wanted. Plus there was a lot of movement in that draft, and we may have received a few picks for our fifth pick, and still drafted centers like Adams or Gobert.

Oh well, they are gelling, and we are not. Plus with injuries, trades, and up and down play, we will have a hard time getting a rhythm going.


In all fairness, almost every team passed on Gobert , even the team that ended up drafting him didn't use their first pick in the draft on him - can't really blame Suns ownership for that. The only fans that can legitimately be pissed off about not having Gobert on their team are Nuggets supporters.

I wasn't mad at the FO for passing on Gobert' for there is still a lot of upside in Len. Just kind of laughing at this, "oh Utah is doing right", idea. They found a grove, winning is usually a result of that. We didn't come into the season looking to play for each other.

Guys seemed to come into the season more with individual in mind. Bledsoe maybe wanting to prove he was worth the contract, but is rushing things. Maybe agora wanted to prove he is the man on the team, and didn't feel from the get go, that he would get that role, and dint try to steal it either. IT came in wanting to prove he was a starter, and with inconsistent starts from both Bledsoe and Goran, saw his chance to prove it. Morrii, wanting to prove they are starters, but think that scoring is what makes you a star, and the other aspects can take a little bit of a backseat(not huge, but enough to effect both ends of the floor in a bad way.) Green and Plumlee just not living up to what they did with basically the same group. Archie, Len, and Warren wanting to prove their worth. There was a lot more "me" ball to go around.

But things are starting, slowly, to build from ISO.goodwin is so much more in control than he was this summer, the DLeague was used really well, and it seems to be paying off. I'd still like a little more Bullock than either Green or Thornton, but the staff could feel they might want to keep one, so have them try out some minutes. I an understand that.


Agree, it's promising that we've been able to out-rebound some good rebounding teams lately as well. We don't have the same individual firing power we did with Dragic/IT, but seem to be building a more cohesive team moving forward. I'm hoping McD is right about taking one step back to take 3 steps forward.

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