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FemaleDogPlease wrote:I don't see the Knicks trading down to be honest. However if they don't get the first it second pick I can see them drafting WCS. Knicks need a center and I can easily see Okafor and Towns going in the top 2 spots on size alone. So that would leave WCS as the next best big.
Retired_Doc wrote:As many of you know I was on the Towns wagon for quite a few months and considered him a better pick than OK4. And I still do. BUT WCS sure had one fantastic tourney. If he plays like this in the next several games he COULD pass both Towns and OK4 by.
If I had to go out on a limb here, let me predict this: More than likely (and barring a major upset) we are gonna see Wisconsin play KY in the final four. Depending upon who (if anyone) stops Kaminsky, and depending upon whether KY wins and who for UK steps up big, then we might know where Towns and WCS are gonna be picked in the draft.
So that's down the road apiece. But right now WCS outplayed every single player in the SEC tourney including Towns.
And here is yet another possible scenario: Kaminsky. Other than the poster god4gives and myself, everyone here has Kaminsky being picked somewhere between 12 and 15. I strongly disagree. IF Kaminsky has a great game against UK and if Wisc wins, Kaminsky could fly up the charts. WCS is the only Wildcat who can stop Kaminsky. Towns cannot.
"It's not like he's some scrub," Costello said. "He's going to be a top-five pick. He's the best player in the nation...
"They are both going to be franchise players," said an NBA scout, who spoke to The Inquirer on condition of anonymity. "There's no bad pick between the two."
TrueWarrior wrote:Johnny Hoops wrote:Not positive but I think it was Chad Ford --- said ---- was at Memphis game the other night and asked 2 scouts to choose between Towns and Okafor. Both chose Towns.
For what its worth NBAdraft.net moved Towns from 4 to 1 on their mock yesterday. Jah from 1 to 3 with Russell at 2. Scouts are seeing the same things many of us are it seems.
Retired_Doc wrote:Johnny Hoops wrote:I wouldn't mind WCS in a scenario where we select #1 or #2 and subsequently trade the pick for WCS and other assets.
Let's say the Kings drafted WCS and we had Towns. Phil knows we need multiple assets --- maybe we move Towns/Calderon for WCS/Collison/McLemore and future 1st from Kings.
We come out of the trade with a starting C and a new starting back-court. We add 2 more pieces in FA -- lets say we sign Monroe and T-Harris.
Collison/Galloway
McLemore/THJ
Melo/T-Harris
Monroe
WCS
At least in this scenario -- we are adding to our depth without spending on older FAs and we'd probably be leaving enough room to add a MAX player in 2016 and we'd also have a 2016 pick from Kings.
Not sure it's a great plan but one example.
It's a very good plan, Johnny, but there are two problems: I'm not at all sure the Kings would take Calderon and I'm not so sure they would hand us their 2016 first rounder. They would sure have to consider Towns three times the player WCS is, and frankly Towns is not three times the player WCS is.
FemaleDogPlease wrote:I don't see the Knicks trading down to be honest. However if they don't get the first it second pick I can see them drafting WCS. Knicks need a center and I can easily see Okafor and Towns going in the top 2 spots on size alone. So that would leave WCS as the next best big.
moocow007 wrote:TrueWarrior wrote:Johnny Hoops wrote:Not positive but I think it was Chad Ford --- said ---- was at Memphis game the other night and asked 2 scouts to choose between Towns and Okafor. Both chose Towns.
For what its worth NBAdraft.net moved Towns from 4 to 1 on their mock yesterday. Jah from 1 to 3 with Russell at 2. Scouts are seeing the same things many of us are it seems.
What I will admit to is the last time I debated the value of 2 "similar level" guys (at the time of course, obviously not now) TW was 100% right and I was way off. So...I may put the pressure on TW again and say I agree with whatever he says we should pick.
You remember which 2 guys right TW?
of course. The fact that you suspended me, the only time I got suspended, because we got so heated about Klay vs Marshon is hilarious to see now. We're all wrong on some guys (I got caught up Jimmertime a bit then too thinking hed be a poor mans Curry) but that is classic. I didnt even think Klay would be THIS good or Marshon would be out of the league already. I had Brooks as a nice 6th man.Retired_Doc wrote:For some reason most of you are unwilling to recognize Kaminsky's talents. I say he's Dirk lite. And might even someday equal Dirk. You folks are underrating Kaminsky.
It appears that only god4gives and myself appreciate Kaminsky's skills.
If Kaminsky ends up being ROY next year most of you folks are going to look quite foolish.
Worst yet, you will all have to admit god4gives was right. Ouch, dat gonna hoit!
Guano wrote:Fourni3r forgetting he has Bob cousy handles
Woodsanity wrote:Imagine trusting a team with World B Flat on it without Lebron keeping him in check.
TrueWarrior wrote:Johnny Hoops wrote:Not positive but I think it was Chad Ford --- said ---- was at Memphis game the other night and asked 2 scouts to choose between Towns and Okafor. Both chose Towns.
For what its worth NBAdraft.net moved Towns from 4 to 1 on their mock yesterday. Jah from 1 to 3 with Russell at 2. Scouts are seeing the same things many of us are it seems.
Worst_to_First wrote:TrueWarrior wrote:Johnny Hoops wrote:Not positive but I think it was Chad Ford --- said ---- was at Memphis game the other night and asked 2 scouts to choose between Towns and Okafor. Both chose Towns.
For what its worth NBAdraft.net moved Towns from 4 to 1 on their mock yesterday. Jah from 1 to 3 with Russell at 2. Scouts are seeing the same things many of us are it seems.
For whatever that site is worth, Jahlil Okafor could indeed probably fall to the #3 pick if the situations leading to the draft aligned themselves. If Minny lands #1 and they are in love with Towns as some say they do, and Philly gets #2 and gets a PG, the team that ends up as the #3 in the lottery could have Okafor fall straight to its lap. Crazy enough it could happen.
Ron Mexico wrote:Worst_to_First wrote:TrueWarrior wrote:
For what its worth NBAdraft.net moved Towns from 4 to 1 on their mock yesterday. Jah from 1 to 3 with Russell at 2. Scouts are seeing the same things many of us are it seems.
For whatever that site is worth, Jahlil Okafor could indeed probably fall to the #3 pick if the situations leading to the draft aligned themselves. If Minny lands #1 and they are in love with Towns as some say they do, and Philly gets #2 and gets a PG, the team that ends up as the #3 in the lottery could have Okafor fall straight to its lap. Crazy enough it could happen.
yep. if philly gets a top 2 pick, they're taking the guard of their dreams, which they say is mudiay.
Besart19 wrote:Unless Phil has hit the senile phase (like Berlusconi with AC Milan & Politics) good thing would happen for the Knicks!!
We have a top pick, Melo, and 65M to continue our quest for a ring (and a lot of superstars in the next three FA) #Leggo
god4gives wrote:Retired_Doc wrote:As many of you know I was on the Towns wagon for quite a few months and considered him a better pick than OK4. And I still do. BUT WCS sure had one fantastic tourney. If he plays like this in the next several games he COULD pass both Towns and OK4 by.
If I had to go out on a limb here, let me predict this: More than likely (and barring a major upset) we are gonna see Wisconsin play KY in the final four. Depending upon who (if anyone) stops Kaminsky, and depending upon whether KY wins and who for UK steps up big, then we might know where Towns and WCS are gonna be picked in the draft.
So that's down the road apiece. But right now WCS outplayed every single player in the SEC tourney including Towns.
And here is yet another possible scenario: Kaminsky. Other than the poster god4gives and myself, everyone here has Kaminsky being picked somewhere between 12 and 15. I strongly disagree. IF Kaminsky has a great game against UK and if Wisc wins, Kaminsky could fly up the charts. WCS is the only Wildcat who can stop Kaminsky. Towns cannot.
One of the teams that can give Kentucky problems is Wisconsin. Many judge Kaminsky's performance in last year's final four lost and say that WCS didn't even play. This year is a different year and Frank just keeps on improving. If they meet up again, I'm sure Kaminsky is gonna be well prepared. He went up against Purdue's two giants A.J. Hammons & Isaac Haas. A.J. Hammons is 7 ' 0" & 260 pounds averaging 3 blocks and 12 ppg. Isaac Haas is 7 ' 2" & 295 pounds averaging 1 block & 8 ppg. Frank shut both of them down in the second half and it's not the first time he played well against those two. It's good practice for him if he goes up against WCS & Towns who are better. I like Karl Towns defense and his offensive versatility is still raw and progressing. I wish his game was as ripe as Frank's on the offensive end.
I don't care what none of these guys in these forums and some mock draft websites say. Kaminsky will be in the top 10 for sure.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/104562/badgers-spartans-rivalry-takes-b1g-stage"It's not like he's some scrub," Costello said. "He's going to be a top-five pick. He's the best player in the nation...
Marty McFly wrote:2 more months till the lottery.
Worst_to_First wrote:TrueWarrior wrote:Johnny Hoops wrote:Not positive but I think it was Chad Ford --- said ---- was at Memphis game the other night and asked 2 scouts to choose between Towns and Okafor. Both chose Towns.
For what its worth NBAdraft.net moved Towns from 4 to 1 on their mock yesterday. Jah from 1 to 3 with Russell at 2. Scouts are seeing the same things many of us are it seems.
For whatever that site is worth, Jahlil Okafor could indeed probably fall to the #3 pick if the situations leading to the draft aligned themselves. If Minny lands #1 and they are in love with Towns as some say they do, and Philly gets #2 and gets a PG, the team that ends up as the #3 in the lottery could have Okafor fall straight to its lap. Crazy enough it could happen.