Who is Detroit's competition for Reggie Jackson?

Post #21 » by **Dirk** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:03 pm

I felt a chill down my spine when I saw Laimbeer list Dallas as a team that could pursue him. Fortunately, that will never happen. The Mavs are already going through a tough stretch trying to pair Ellis and Rondo. Dallas is committed to retaining Ellis. After re-signing Chandler and Ellis, there will be the dilemma of re-signing Rono, if he's not re-signed(have his bird rights to go over the cap), the Mavs likely won't have capspace for Jackson.

Laimbeer · Post #22 » by **Laimbeer** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:32 pm

Dirk Nowitzki wrote:I felt a chill down my spine when I saw Laimbeer list Dallas as a team that could pursue him. Fortunately, that will never happen. The Mavs are already going through a tough stretch trying to pair Ellis and Rondo. Dallas is committed to retaining Ellis. After re-signing Chandler and Ellis, there will be the dilemma of re-signing Rono, if he's not re-signed(have his bird rights to go over the cap), the Mavs likely won't have capspace for Jackson.

So if Jackson signs with Detroit, Jennings can slide into that PG slot!

Post #23 » by **Dirk** » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:49 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Dirk Nowitzki wrote:I felt a chill down my spine when I saw Laimbeer list Dallas as a team that could pursue him. Fortunately, that will never happen. The Mavs are already going through a tough stretch trying to pair Ellis and Rondo. Dallas is committed to retaining Ellis. After re-signing Chandler and Ellis, there will be the dilemma of re-signing Rono, if he's not re-signed(have his bird rights to go over the cap), the Mavs likely won't have capspace for Jackson.

So if Jackson signs with Detroit, Jennings can slide into that PG slot!

I still think that if there isn't a fallout(there was a drama recently, but Rondo seems to have been improving slowly), the Mas will retain the current roster, even if it's not going anywhere. If the Mavs are swept, I hope they don't settle with a backourt that doesn't fit together. Jennings would make sense and there were reports of the Mavs having interest in him when he was with the Bucks(trade deadline 2013). With his contract expiring, it'd be a very low risk - but the Mavs don't have much to trade away. In any case, I would expect you to keep him around considering he was playing well before getting hurt.

By the way, I always noticed that Italian guy being a cheerleader on your bench. Fast forward to the past week and I've seen Datome actually playing(!) and hitting crazy shots. He got very exposed on defense though. I just had the impression that for him to not get any minutes with you must have been because he was terrible and I wondered that Pistons fans must have found it funny to find out that guy was actually now playing some minutes with the Celtics.

Laimbeer · Post #24 » by **Laimbeer** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:53 am

Dirk Nowitzki wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:
Dirk Nowitzki wrote:I felt a chill down my spine when I saw Laimbeer list Dallas as a team that could pursue him. Fortunately, that will never happen. The Mavs are already going through a tough stretch trying to pair Ellis and Rondo. Dallas is committed to retaining Ellis. After re-signing Chandler and Ellis, there will be the dilemma of re-signing Rono, if he's not re-signed(have his bird rights to go over the cap), the Mavs likely won't have capspace for Jackson.

So if Jackson signs with Detroit, Jennings can slide into that PG slot!

I still think that if there isn't a fallout(there was a drama recently, but Rondo seems to have been improving slowly), the Mas will retain the current roster, even if it's not going anywhere. If the Mavs are swept, I hope they don't settle with a backourt that doesn't fit together. Jennings would make sense and there were reports of the Mavs having interest in him when he was with the Bucks(trade deadline 2013). With his contract expiring, it'd be a very low risk - but the Mavs don't have much to trade away. In any case, I would expect you to keep him around considering he was playing well before getting hurt.

By the way, I always noticed that Italian guy being a cheerleader on your bench. Fast forward to the past week and I've seen Datome actually playing(!) and hitting crazy shots. He got very exposed on defense though. I just had the impression that for him to not get any minutes with you must have been because he was terrible and I wondered that Pistons fans must have found it funny to find out that guy was actually now playing some minutes with the Celtics.

If Jackson resigns, the Pistons are going to commit to him as the guy, at least initially, and Jennings is too much money for a backup. Also don't think he's happy riding the pine.

Datome is capable of little bursts if he gets minutes, I suppose. But if he's in your rotation, you're somewhat desperate.

mercury · Post #25 » by **mercury** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:24 am

And we're all experts on Jackson's future growth?

jars · Post #26 » by **jars** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:31 pm

mercury wrote:And we're all experts on Jackson's future growth?

I know he hasnt been perfect but everyone is hating on him wayyyyy too much. He has been given the reins to his first NBA team in which the offense is run through him. 'Getting it' is something that doesnt happen overnight. This takes months to understand what he is supposed to do... particularly considering he is playing with a new bunch of guys. You could argue that part of the poor start to the year was because the players (particularly the point guards) were getting used to SVG's system. Or you could just blame Josh Smith, I'll take either answer. You can see it in RJ's Assists and turnovers which are up and that tends to show an inexperienced point guard. Give him till the very end of the season and then decide. Im sure his improvement in training/shootarounds will also determine what Stan offers him, don't discount that.

Billl · Post #27 » by **Billl** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:38 pm

The improvement we saw after dumping smith wasn't just about dumping smith. The guys rallied together and were really all on the same page. The ball was moving. Guys were cutting. And everyone was playing together. That just isn't happening right now. RJ has definitely pressed some games and tried to do too much, but I don't think he's inherently a problem that way. He just needs to start trusting guys enough to just move the ball and not worry about being the one to make a play. If/when he starts picking up some more hockey assists, the team will be on the right track.

Laimbeer · Post #28 » by **Laimbeer** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:09 pm

Would anyone make a max offer to Dragic, Rondo, or Knight?

gusman · Post #29 » by **gusman** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:34 am

I don't want him

gusman · Post #30 » by **gusman** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:34 am

Would rather have dragic

Blkbrd671 · Post #31 » by **Blkbrd671** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:57 am

i think memphis would toss there hat in after that performance

Laimbeer · Post #32 » by **Laimbeer** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:07 am

"I hear Jackson could have a max offer sheet out there waiting for him, but I'm skeptical." Vince Ellis

princeofpalace · Post #33 » by **princeofpalace** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:18 am

Hopefully this good game of Jacksons helps convince some dumb GM to offer Jackson a max so we can move on without him. Best case scenario for us is that we can get some assets for Reggie.

Joe Berry · Post #34 » by **Joe Berry** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:35 am

Only the Knicks and Lakers are realistic possibilities for big contract offers for Jackson. Still matching a max or close to max contract for Jackson would be a huge mistake.
No position in the NBA is deeper and Jackson clearly still is a very flawed player. He would earn more than Teague, Walker, Lawson, Curry, G. Hill, Conley, Rubio, Bledsoe, Parker, Lowry and Jennings not even counting clear max players like Paul, Wall, Irving, Westbrook and rookie contract players like Lillard and free agents like Rondo and Dragic.
And all of the above are just better, more complete players than Jackson.

Phenomenonsense · Post #35 » by **Phenomenonsense** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:25 pm

He Filled it Up wrote:I agree, but our former GM proved you can bid against yourself.

Ha he looks like he is actually bidding against himself in that picture. "Hello, Stuckey's Agent? Yes I would like to keep him for 7 million." "I'll go as high as 8." "10 million it is!"

jakebernat · Post #36 » by **jakebernat** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:47 pm

absolutely insane what a little bit of spacing can do for a player like reggie
is there anyone out there who still wants to pay moose?