Good Article on Hoiberg

ryannik09 · Post #1 » by **ryannik09** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:48 pm

Thought people might be interested in learning a little about the guy, some speculate might be the coach if the 2015-16 Chicago Bulls.

http://deadspin.com/if-you-hate-college ... 1691679630

Hoiberg, like a lot of smart NBA coaches, understands that not all shots are created equal. He's effectively eliminated the long two-point shot from his team's arsenal, and instead emphasizes attacking defenses at the rim and from behind the three-point line.

johnnyvann840 · Post #2 » by **johnnyvann840** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:51 pm

So sick of hearing about this Fing guy

Post #3 » by **DuckIII** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:55 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:So sick of hearing about this Fing guy

Well, he's the hottest NBA coaching prospect in college basketball and has been for 2 years. And he's got ties to the Bulls, who appear to be at odds with their current coach. So his name is going to come up. Just to give you more to be sick of, I wrote this in the Thibs' thread but this might be a better place for it:

Also, this may have come and gone in this thread and I didn't see it, but has anyone mentioned what Jay Williams said on Mike & Mike Tuesday morning?

He was talking about Iowa State and Fred Hoiberg, and said "but I don't know how long [Iowa State] is going to have him. There are NBA teams who are interested in him. The Chicago Bulls love him, and some other teams too."

Now, I don't know if he is just regurgitating the general speculation that is out there, or if he knows something specific. But it was interesting that he said it that way.

red222 · Post #4 » by **red222** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:56 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:So sick of hearing about this Fing guy

+1

MC3 · Post #5 » by **MC3** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:58 pm

Our future coach

johnnyvann840 · Post #6 » by **johnnyvann840** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:01 pm

DuckIII wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:So sick of hearing about this Fing guy

Well, he's the hottest NBA coaching prospect in college basketball and has been for 2 years. And he's got ties to the Bulls, who appear to be at odds with their current coach. So his name is going to come up. Just to give you more to be sick of, I wrote this in the Thibs' thread but this might be a better place for it:

Also, this may have come and gone in this thread and I didn't see it, but has anyone mentioned what Jay Williams said on Mike & Mike Tuesday morning?

He was talking about Iowa State and Fred Hoiberg, and said "but I don't know how long [Iowa State] is going to have him. There are NBA teams who are interested in him. The Chicago Bulls love him, and some other teams too."

Now, I don't know if he is just regurgitating the general speculation that is out there, or if he knows something specific. But it was interesting that he said it that way.

Oh, I know.. it's inevitable at this point. He's likely to be the Bulls coach next year. I just think it sucks and it really takes away from this current season, which still has a long way to go. Frankly, it's made me pretty apathetic to the Bulls of 2014-15. With all the turmoil they aren't winning dick and then we start over again with a rookie NBA coach and a still questionable roster, when it comes to health. Nothing but bad luck and bad knees of his stars, derailed Thibs.. He's not perfect, but nobody is and he's better than anybody we are getting to replace him at this point in time.

maynardo · Post #7 » by **maynardo** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:03 pm

Uuuh yeah a coach that does not like the long 2s. Is not like our current coach invented the defense that forces teams to shoot long 2s. He obviously knows nothing about analytics and that's why no team copies that defense.... oh wait.

I'd like to see articles about new young front office people, hopefuly analytics oriented. I mean the ones we have were always .500 or less until Thibs. So maybe we should think about new people there.

johnnyvann840 · Post #8 » by **johnnyvann840** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:07 pm

Wonder if they blame Scott Brooks for Ibaka's surgery?

He played 45 and 40 minute in 2 out of 3 games just prior to getting injured.

MC3 · Post #9 » by **MC3** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:09 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:Wonder if they blame Scott Brooks for Ibaka's surgery?

He played 45 and 40 minute in 2 out of 3 games just prior to getting injured.

Scott Brooks is overall bad coach. They dont even need to blame him for that. He is already bad enough.

Red Larrivee · Post #10 » by **Red Larrivee** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:11 pm

Hoiberg is a very good coach. It seems like most of his detractors throw shade because of their infatuation with Thibodeau or just a general lack of knowledge of what he's doing at Iowa State.

Whether it's with the Bulls or someone else, he'll get his shot to coach in the NBA. Given that our coach and general manager are at odds, I'd prefer he's coaching the Bulls next season.

johnnyvann840 · Post #11 » by **johnnyvann840** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:11 pm

MC3 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:Wonder if they blame Scott Brooks for Ibaka's surgery?

He played 45 and 40 minute in 2 out of 3 games just prior to getting injured.

Scott Brooks is overall bad coach. They dont even need to blame him for that. He is already bad enough.

Not the point

johnnyvann840 · Post #12 » by **johnnyvann840** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:12 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:Hoiberg is a very good coach. It seems like most of his detractors throw shade because of their infatuation with Thibodeau or just a general lack of knowledge of what he's doing at Iowa State.

He's a great college coach, no doubt.

Just to clarify... I am not a detractor of Hoiberg.. I just don't want the FO to replace Thibs with him and think it would be foolish. Just an opinion.

Red Larrivee · Post #13 » by **Red Larrivee** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:14 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:Hoiberg is a very good coach. It seems like most of his detractors throw shade because of their infatuation with Thibodeau or just a general lack of knowledge of what he's doing at Iowa State.

He's a great college coach, no doubt.

Yep. And he's running a pro style offense with 0 college stars.

MC3 · Post #14 » by **MC3** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:15 pm

Can't wait to see him running that pro style system with NBA stars and superstar.

DanTown8587 · Post #15 » by **DanTown8587** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:15 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:Hoiberg is a very good coach. It seems like most of his detractors throw shade because of their infatuation with Thibodeau or just a general lack of knowledge of what he's doing at Iowa State.

He's a great college coach, no doubt.

Or you could watch an Iowa State game and see how much NBA style stuff he runs without top flight NBA prospects. As good as a coaching prospect Thibs was in 2010, you could argue Hoiberg is at least an equal prospect.

Mr Funk · Post #16 » by **Mr Funk** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:16 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:Oh, I know.. it's inevitable at this point. He's likely to be the Bulls coach next year. I just think it sucks and it really takes away from this current season, which still has a long way to go. Frankly, it's made me pretty apathetic to the Bulls of 2014-15. With all the turmoil they aren't winning dick and then we start over again with a rookie NBA coach and a still questionable roster, when it comes to health. Nothing but bad luck and bad knees of his stars, derailed Thibs.. He's not perfect, but nobody is and he's better than anybody we are getting to replace him at this point in time.

Don't worry. We're going to win it all and Rose will be the Finals MVP, Thibs will reign supreme and this Hoiberg crap will be forgotten.

Post #17 » by **DuckIII** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:16 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:Nothing but bad luck and bad knees of his stars, derailed Thibs.. He's not perfect, but nobody is and he's better than anybody we are getting to replace him at this point in time.

I have my issues with Thibs, but I think he's a great coach and I am still holding out hope that he and the Bulls FO can put their differences aside.

johnnyvann840 · Post #18 » by **johnnyvann840** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:19 pm

DanTown8587 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:Hoiberg is a very good coach. It seems like most of his detractors throw shade because of their infatuation with Thibodeau or just a general lack of knowledge of what he's doing at Iowa State.

He's a great college coach, no doubt.

Or you could watch an Iowa State game and see how much NBA style stuff he runs without top flight NBA prospects. As good as a coaching prospect Thibs was in 2010, you could argue Hoiberg is at least an equal prospect.

Look, you guys are confusing X's and O's with what coaching in the NBA is all about. Thibs was a proven NBA coach already with a ring in which he was a HUGE part of on his finger.

He continued to be proven as a head coach winning more games than any other coach, and even having playoff success the only time he had his star... until the ACL and other injuries which he was in NO WAY responsible for.

johnnyvann840 · Post #19 » by **johnnyvann840** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:20 pm

Mr Funk wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:Oh, I know.. it's inevitable at this point. He's likely to be the Bulls coach next year. I just think it sucks and it really takes away from this current season, which still has a long way to go. Frankly, it's made me pretty apathetic to the Bulls of 2014-15. With all the turmoil they aren't winning dick and then we start over again with a rookie NBA coach and a still questionable roster, when it comes to health. Nothing but bad luck and bad knees of his stars, derailed Thibs.. He's not perfect, but nobody is and he's better than anybody we are getting to replace him at this point in time.

Don't worry. We're going to win it all and Rose will be the Finals MVP, Thibs will reign supreme and this Hoiberg crap will be forgotten.

I hope you're right.

Post #20 » by **DuckIII** » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:20 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:Given that our coach and general manager are at odds, I'd prefer he's coaching the Bulls next season.

I'd prefer that our coach and FO realize that what is in everyone's best interests is that they work it out, and we keep Thibs. But if that isn't to happen, then Hoiberg would be #1 on my backup list. He's done a fantastic job at Iowa State and I think the younger parts of our roster blend well with his style.

Bird in the hand, I'd rather just keep the excellent coach we have. But Hoiberg is legitimate.