Official Trade Thread - Part XXIX

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I still say you toss out a Beal, Gortat, Sato, 2016 first 2017 second 2018 first and see if you can work some magic. Thats a pretty big haul for the kings. and you know GC is going to probably make a lot of trades.

GK?

This is a realistic trade scenario.

George karl lol sorry must have put a C down by mistake!
But yeah, if we pulled a deal like this we would still be in the running for KD in 2016. We could find some serviceable 2 guards on the cheep, someone like a Dez Wells or Wesley Saunders would be nice in the second round. Buddy Hield, Justin anderson, Delon Wright and Caris LeVert should all be there in our first round range if we don't go after a big. KJ McDaniels, Vander Blue and Seth Curry would all be guys to look at. Guys like CDR, Crawford, Stucky, Belinelli, or Henderson would be interesting stop gaps. With Wes Mathews injury, it could be possible to steal him. My point is if you trade Beal there are plenty of options for 2 guards out there who could match or exceed the production that he gives you right now, at an affordable coast. You almost can't match Boogie.

There does seem to be a plethora of decent two guards in this draft.

Towns, Okafor, and the big C at Texas might each have Boogie Cousins potential, but there is no way the Wizards get them. Kaminsky is nowhere near as good as Boogie.

The Wizards won't draft a better offensive post player.

[gambitx777]

GK?

This is a realistic trade scenario.

George karl lol sorry must have put a C down by mistake!
But yeah, if we pulled a deal like this we would still be in the running for KD in 2016. We could find some serviceable 2 guards on the cheep, someone like a Dez Wells or Wesley Saunders would be nice in the second round. Buddy Hield, Justin anderson, Delon Wright and Caris LeVert should all be there in our first round range if we don't go after a big. KJ McDaniels, Vander Blue and Seth Curry would all be guys to look at. Guys like CDR, Crawford, Stucky, Belinelli, or Henderson would be interesting stop gaps. With Wes Mathews injury, it could be possible to steal him. My point is if you trade Beal there are plenty of options for 2 guards out there who could match or exceed the production that he gives you right now, at an affordable coast. You almost can't match Boogie.

There does seem to be a plethora of decent two guards in this draft.

Towns, Okafor, and the big C at Texas night have Boogie Cousins potential, but there is no way the Wizards get them. Kaminsky is nowhere near as good as Boogie.

The Wizards won't draft a better offensive post player.

I like Frank, I think he can be way better than gortat or even be able to play with him. Like maybe he could be a poor mans Dirk. But your right and like I said its so much easier to replace a starting 2 than it is to match Boogie.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I think Nene for Love might be a good trade in the summer if things don't work out. Nene I think would be a better player for Cleveland in a post season scenario. Much better defender, and they'd gain valuable size and have a legitimately imposing front court rotation. They don't need Nene for 82 games. 60 games and then healthy for the playoffs works well for how they are built. Also, once Nene expires the increasing cap will allow them to go after a superstar who is a better fit.

For us, we get to kick the tires on him and see how things go. If Durant wants to come, we can thank Love for his services and let him walk in the off-season. If it looks like he'll bolt, we might be able to get value in a trade at the deadline who might be impatient.

If the Sixers are in a position for a big man with their pick, I'd swap our pick for theirs and include a first for next year and Porter. Or I'd offer a first (this year) and Porter for Noel.

Right, but I'd say if we could get Love the objective would be a "Big 3" of Wall, Love, KD.

[thricethefun]

Since it seems like Phil Jackson might look to trade the Knicks 1st round pick this year it begs the question: Would you offer Beal for the Knicks pick if it ends up being say #5? In that case we could get one of Towns, Stanley Johnson, Deangelo Russell and wouldn't have to pay Beal the high extension he will be wanting. I would probably pull the trigger on that deal.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Not to get carried away with this...

But what about a trade with the Cavs, main pieces being centered around Beal & Gortat for Love, with other assets possibly included.

Draft a replacement for Beal... such as Devon Booker, Justin Anderson, Wells etc.

Do a S&T for Monroe sending out a package to Detroit including Nene, Porter, 2016 1st, as the main pieces.

The goal to be to add KD to a team that already has Monroe, Love, and Wall in place.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Since it seems like Phil Jackson might look to trade the Knicks 1st round pick this year it begs the question: Would you offer Beal for the Knicks pick if it ends up being say #5? In that case we could get one of Towns, Stanley Johnson, Deangelo Russell and wouldn't have to pay Beal the high extension he will be wanting. I would probably pull the trigger on that deal.

No, I would rather keep Beal.

I would only trade Beal for a good, young, established NBA player and a pick.

There would need to be a surer thing for Beal.

[Ruzious]

George karl lol sorry must have put a C down by mistake!
But yeah, if we pulled a deal like this we would still be in the running for KD in 2016. We could find some serviceable 2 guards on the cheep, someone like a Dez Wells or Wesley Saunders would be nice in the second round. Buddy Hield, Justin anderson, Delon Wright and Caris LeVert should all be there in our first round range if we don't go after a big. KJ McDaniels, Vander Blue and Seth Curry would all be guys to look at. Guys like CDR, Crawford, Stucky, Belinelli, or Henderson would be interesting stop gaps. With Wes Mathews injury, it could be possible to steal him. My point is if you trade Beal there are plenty of options for 2 guards out there who could match or exceed the production that he gives you right now, at an affordable coast. You almost can't match Boogie.

There does seem to be a plethora of decent two guards in this draft.

Towns, Okafor, and the big C at Texas night have Boogie Cousins potential, but there is no way the Wizards get them. Kaminsky is nowhere near as good as Boogie.

The Wizards won't draft a better offensive post player.

I like Frank, I think he can be way better than gortat or even be able to play with him. Like maybe he could be a poor mans Dirk. But your right and like I said its so much easier to replace a starting 2 than it is to match Boogie.

One underrated thing about Frank as compared to Cuz is Frank's got a very low turnover rate. But I don't think anyone in the world is saying Frank is as good as Cousins. They're very different types of players.

[Dark Faze]

Not to get carried away with this...

But what about a trade with the Cavs, main pieces being centered around Beal & Gortat for Love, with other assets possibly included.

Draft a replacement for Beal... such as Devon Booker, Justin Anderson, Wells etc.

Do a S&T for Monroe sending out a package to Detroit including Nene, Porter, 2016 1st, as the main pieces.

The goal to be to add KD to a team that already has Monroe, Love, and Wall in place.

Love for a cap raise max isn't something you should want. Let alone giving up long term assets or him.

[TheSecretWeapon]

According to my newfangled "Real Trade Value" toy, Beal and Gortat would be too much to trade for Kevin Love -- at least as Love has performed this season. And that's without accounting for salaries.

[Ruzious]

According to my newfangled "Real Trade Value" toy, Beal and Gortat would be too much to trade for Kevin Love -- at least as Love has performed this season. And that's without accounting for salaries.

Good. Then we can add Webster and Shumpert to the deal. And we don't have to keep Shumpert for more than a season (hence the term Shumpadump).

[TheSecretWeapon]

According to my newfangled "Real Trade Value" toy, Beal and Gortat would be too much to trade for Kevin Love -- at least as Love has performed this season. And that's without accounting for salaries.

Good. Then we can add Webster and Shumpert to the deal. And we don't have to keep Shumpert for more than a season (hence the term Shumpadump).

That closes the gap sufficiently. Still a slight overpay by the Wizards, but the balancer would be a guy like Mike Miller or Joe Harris, and...not much point, really.

By the way, according to my new stat, Miller had a RTV more than triple Sessions'.

[Ruzious]

RTV hmmm. Room temperature vulcanizing? Per pace adjusted 40 minutes?

[Dark Faze]

Meyers Leonard is a 7'1 50/40/90 big that the Blazers probably wouldn't match an offer on.

His minutes are limited but...if he can keep those percentages even somewhat in tact over 25 minutes a night then you'll have gained a stretch FIVE for Wall.

[gambitx777]

Meyers Leonard is a 7'1 50/40/90 big that the Blazers probably wouldn't match an offer on.

His minutes are limited but...if he can keep those percentages even somewhat in tact over 25 minutes a night then you'll have gained a stretch FIVE for Wall.

Well if you get Frack K in the draft you don't really need Leonard.

[Dark Faze]

I mean....a guy who is doing it vs a guy who hasn't proven he can do it...

[Ruzious]

Meyers Leonard is a 7'1 50/40/90 big that the Blazers probably wouldn't match an offer on.

His minutes are limited but...if he can keep those percentages even somewhat in tact over 25 minutes a night then you'll have gained a stretch FIVE for Wall.

Well if you get Frack K in the draft you don't really need Leonard.

Frank will be gone long before the Wiz pick.

I like the idea of going after Leonard. To me, he's a classic example of a player you wouldn't want to draft, but see if you can get him cheap after 4 years. Let someone else develop him, and then get him when he's ready to actually contribute. He seemed like an immature pretty boy at Illinois, but if he does mature - you have something good, because he's got great size, isn't a stiff, and he's got nice touch all the way out to 3 point range.

[Dark Faze]

Especially with Robin Lopez up for an extension, its a great time to try to steal Meyers

[tontoz]

I agree that Myers would be a good guy to go after. But he won't be an RFA until next summer. We would have to give up something significant to get him before then. And realistically we don't have many significant pieces.

[rl25g]

would Portland consider Otto Porter for Leonard and McCullom?

Porter serves as a player with length who could really shore up their wing depth. He also has a much higher upside than either Leonard or McCullom.

[tontoz]

would Portland consider Otto Porter for Leonard and McCullom?

Porter serves as a player with length who could really shore up their wing depth. He also has a much higher upside than either Leonard or McCullom.

Portland might consider it, but would EG? This isn't the type of move i can see EG making.