How many games would an ALL-PG team win?

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Re: How many games would an ALL-PG team win? 

Post#21 » by kaiballz » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:09 am

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kaiballz wrote:doesn't matter. smalls can bother bigs enough to miss some shots. and there are some athletic guys like russ who can rebound.
but on offence, the smalls pass until they get the centre on them, then isolation.
thats a GUARANTEED bucket every single time. there's no need to shoot. just drive every time. the big can't keep up.


What if they dont play a center but a backup athletic power forward or tall small forward that has more speed to keep up?


then they pass to the pg being guarded by the center...?
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Post#22 » by MaxRider » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:09 am

50 wins team in the east

4 guys stand behind the 3 in the corner and let Westbrook go iso all day

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Re: How many games would an ALL-PG team win? 

Post#23 » by kaiballz » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:13 am

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kaiballz wrote:doesn't matter. smalls can bother bigs enough to miss some shots. and there are some athletic guys like russ who can rebound.
but on offence, the smalls pass until they get the centre on them, then isolation.
thats a GUARANTEED bucket every single time. there's no need to shoot. just drive every time. the big can't keep up.


Why would they need to pass until they get a center on them? There are 5 PG's..so against a traditional team, there will always be a center on one of those PG's.

Guys like RWB/CP3 can beat their men off the dribble regardless of what position they play. I don't see them getting guaranteed buckets every single time. There's something called help defense. They can also zone up or use a box and one against a shooter like Curry.

Smalls can bother bigs sometimes, but more often than not, they're getting a bucket. Look at Hibbert..dude is a trash offensive player, yet dominated Bosh due to size alone. Lebron didn't even deter him much and you think 6 foot PG's are gonna be stopping these dudes? How is a PG going to stop an alley-oop dunk every time down the floor?

Russell can get rebounds because his big men box out, preventing other bigs from rebounding or getting good positioning. Without that, opposing bigs will get position every possession.


thats what i meant. pass the ball until the ball reaches the hands of the pg being marked by the center...

help defence? they are point guards. when the help comes, there's an open man. point guards have the skill to hit the open man easily.

when did i say the smalls can stop the bigs. i said they can bother them enough to make them miss maybe 10-20% of their shots.

you a big? have u ever tried to guard a small before? I haven't seen a big that i cant drive past easily and get a layup every single time. you and your bumbling footwork :lol:
and on the neighbourhood courts, i'm not even a true small. i'm over 6 feet which isn't that small on neighbourhood courts. and bigs can't even keep up because of their horrible feet. a true small or elite smalls like those in the list will blow past a 7 footer every single time, whether the 7footer gives up space or not.
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Post#25 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:19 am

Ithat's alot of talent andathleticism. I'm sure Westbrook would average boards a game. If everyone bought into the system in sure they could win 50.
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Post#26 » by KazuoOda » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:31 am

Lol that team would kill the league IMHO
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Post#27 » by Kawhi M8 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:34 am

Would come out of the East but lose the finals by 100 points per game.
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Post#28 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:30 am

kaiballz wrote:
Volcano wrote:
kaiballz wrote:doesn't matter. smalls can bother bigs enough to miss some shots. and there are some athletic guys like russ who can rebound.
but on offence, the smalls pass until they get the centre on them, then isolation.
thats a GUARANTEED bucket every single time. there's no need to shoot. just drive every time. the big can't keep up.


Why would they need to pass until they get a center on them? There are 5 PG's..so against a traditional team, there will always be a center on one of those PG's.

Guys like RWB/CP3 can beat their men off the dribble regardless of what position they play. I don't see them getting guaranteed buckets every single time. There's something called help defense. They can also zone up or use a box and one against a shooter like Curry.

Smalls can bother bigs sometimes, but more often than not, they're getting a bucket. Look at Hibbert..dude is a trash offensive player, yet dominated Bosh due to size alone. Lebron didn't even deter him much and you think 6 foot PG's are gonna be stopping these dudes? How is a PG going to stop an alley-oop dunk every time down the floor?

Russell can get rebounds because his big men box out, preventing other bigs from rebounding or getting good positioning. Without that, opposing bigs will get position every possession.


thats what i meant. pass the ball until the ball reaches the hands of the pg being marked by the center...

help defence? they are point guards. when the help comes, there's an open man. point guards have the skill to hit the open man easily.

when did i say the smalls can stop the bigs. i said they can bother them enough to make them miss maybe 10-20% of their shots.

you a big? have u ever tried to guard a small before? I haven't seen a big that i cant drive past easily and get a layup every single time. you and your bumbling footwork :lol:
and on the neighbourhood courts, i'm not even a true small. i'm over 6 feet which isn't that small on neighbourhood courts. and bigs can't even keep up because of their horrible feet. a true small or elite smalls like those in the list will blow past a 7 footer every single time, whether the 7footer gives up space or not.
theres a reason that big man (and you for that matter) is playing on the neighbourhood courts and not in the NBA.. Good luck trying to blow by Jordan or Norl or Davis or any other center for that matter.. These bigs are slow compared to the freak athletes playing PG in the NBA but they would kick your ass that's for sure.

Ill take my Center posting up my PG 5 ft from the basket rather than try to have my PG isolate a Center every play.
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Post#29 » by aal04 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:33 am

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Post#30 » by TroutMVP » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:38 am

Ancalagon wrote:For some weird reason, it seems to me like that could be a really good team.


:banghead: Well that would be because you are pretty clueless about basketball.
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Post#31 » by Barnzy » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:02 am

Volcano wrote:0-2 wins

Zero resistance in the paint. Everything's gonna be a dunk/lay-up or offensive putback


They'd win more than that. Put good to great shooters at PF and C to maximize your only advantage. They opponents bigs would struggle to defend them out to the 3 point line and on certain nights the team will get hot from 3. Combine that with a bunch of quick guards swarming the post players for steals and 5 man fast breaks.

This is not only some of the best guards but best players in the league all put together. They'd find ways to win and be effective. I'd say 20-30 wins. A team only consisting of PF/C's would probably win 0-2 games though.
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Post#32 » by monopoman » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:38 am

I think the real question is how good is the All-SF team.
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Post#33 » by HB2 » Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:56 pm

Well, it really depends whether they play against conventional lineups, or also against all-SF teams:D

Two things come to mind - Nelly small ball and what Nelly (or Warriors announcer) once said - whenever bigs played against smalls in the practice smalls always won.

Obviously they wouldn't play 5vs5 conventional baksetball - it would be high pace, potentially full court press/ trapping defence, take the shoot quickly game (before the center reaches it own 3pt line), and in that game with 3pt shooters on the floor being guearded by conventional centers, they would get ton of open looks and would run many teams out of gym.... On defence if the other team succeeds getting across half-court, obviously they would try to force the bigs to put the ball on the floor and there would be a lot more attpemts to draw an offensive foul whenever big man would make move to the bakset with his back.


I think they would win bunch of games, but doubt that they could cope with NBA 82 game schedule.

It is a play-off team in the East for sure.
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Post#34 » by brutalitops » Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:01 pm

I reckon John Wall on Westbrooks shoulders would be an alright center
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Post#35 » by AlexDelta » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:31 pm

This team needs Shaun Livingston.
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Post#36 » by jpengland » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:51 pm

They would give up 25 offensive boards a game. They would win less than 5 games.
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How many games would an ALL-PG team win? 

Post#37 » by TaylorMonkey » Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:53 pm

Someone try this in 2K please.
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Post#38 » by dautjazz » Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:02 pm

BBall Loyalty wrote:PG - Chris Paul
SG - Steph Curry
SF - John Wall
PF - Eric Bledsoe
C - Russell Westbrook

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Lowry

How many games could they win in an NBA season?


It'd definitely be interesting to watch, but you need to add some taller PGs. John Wall should probably be PF or C.

PG - CP3 - 6' / Conley 6'1" / Rondo 6'1"
SG - Curry - 6'3" / Lillard 6'3"
SF - Westbrook - 6'3" / Irving 6'3" / Rubio 6'4"
PF - Wall - 6'5" / MCW 6'6"
C - Exum - 6'6" / Livingston - 6'7"

I tried to get some tall PG's there. Think is probably the best I could come up with to match a regular lineup. Exum and Livingston would struggle obviously against real centers, but they are probably the best options you can throw in there. I replaced Lowry with Rondo for defensive and rebounding purposes. I think they could handle bad teams rather easily, they could pass and shoot lights out for the most part, and they have tons of athleticism, but the better teams of the league, especially with good bigs, would probably beat them. Still would be a fascinating experiment to watch unfold. I agree with the 50 win assessment.
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Post#39 » by nikster » Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:09 pm

honestly you would need a great coach, especially defensively. i can see them being effective in an all-switch, double-team heavy defensive system. They would need to crash the boards extremely hard on defense.
Offensively they would need a good system too. I can see these PGs blowing by a lot of bigs but you will have nobody in the paint to throw easy lobs too or dump down too. thats a source for a lot of easy buckets for teams. plus i think many of these PGs would struggle to score over tall, elite defenders like Lebron, MKG, PG etc...
I think they would be a fringe playoff team in the East, no chance to make it in the West
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Post#40 » by Rosque » Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:19 pm

What about including historical players?

PG - Curry
SG - Payton
SF - Westbrook
PF - Penny
C - Magic
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