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Re: DET @ PHI Wed 7PM 

Post#181 » by taco_daddy » Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:03 am

sfballa13 wrote:Great loss tonight guys!

I only see us winning 2 maybe 3 games in the games we have left

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Here's hoping for a nice 13 game losing streak before finishing the season strong against the Knicks with a moral boosting blow out

We'll do our best to help you with that losing streak. ;)
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Re: DET @ PHI Wed 7PM 

Post#182 » by 76ciology » Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:28 am

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76ciology wrote:1.) Reggie Jackson should stop acting like westbrook and jacking up those contested mid range jumpers.
2.) If Pistons scouts watched game tapes, they should let Reggie Jackson post up Ish Smith and attack Ish's poor defense.
3.) Why do they let Drummond act like Joel Anthony in there? Drummond should be posting Noel AT WILL.
4.) Reggie Jackson did a really poor job passing the ball to Drummond at the post just a lot of lazy pass.
5.) Why revolve a really good portion of your offense around Jodie Meeks?

Just my thoughts..

Pretty much...
Dre was floating around the paint like he doesn't have a major bulk advantage... not acceptable... he should demand the ball then back Noel into the hoop support... his effort level from game to game is confusing.


You guys just need to try to revolve your offense around Drummond. Let him make mistakes and just space out the floor for him.

I do think that a Jennings-RJ could work in a dribble drive set-up with spacers and Drummond inside for a drop pass opportunity. Pretty much what our lottery team is doing with Ish Smith, spacers and Noel down low.

It's just weird watching the Pistons last night. There were some instances where Drummond is calling for the ball at the post. Then the PG asked him for a screen. When Drummond set for a screen. The PG then didn't use the screen and swing the ball to the other side, I think it was to Jodie Meeks. Just lack of direction. I don't know if RJ is just not familiar with your offense and just prefers a scott brooks type no direction offense.

If you were to ask me, and I hope I don't get bashed for this. And if I'm wrong, just take it that I don't watch much PIstons game. But Drummond doesn't have good basketball IQ be a fake dominant scorer ala D12. D12 was limited offensively but SVG was able to manufacture a good offense to revolve D12. But D12 knows how to adjust depending on the defense. He can play PnR with Hedo/Jameer or attack the post, depending on the strengths of the defender. But then he can be just be... raw.

Anyway just my thoughts. And I do think that you guys have the talent to be good but it needs to be used effectively. I do see some potential on the RJ-Jennings backcourt. Sharing ball handling duties would remove some responsibilities to make them efficient. :D
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Re: DET @ PHI Wed 7PM 

Post#183 » by Eyeamok » Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:06 am

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Eyeamok wrote:Stan Van Gundy says what Philadelphia is doing, that roster on the floor is embarrassing. Said he'd like to do away the draft altogether.

Stan Van Gundy on what Philadelphia has done with its roster: "Its embarrassing."

Stan Van Gundy on the 76ers: "If you're putting that roster on the floor, you're doing everything you can to lose." #SSAC14


it is embarrassing, whats your point


It's more entertaining than it is embarrassing. And since you don't seem to understand why I guess I will tell you.

SVG is not only your coach but he the president of basketball operations. Meaning the man is integral in building your franchise back to a respectable level. So with all this knowledge and wisdom about basketball that he is supposed to possess. He takes aim at another franchise that is in the rebuilding stage and says the above quotes....because he knows basketball. Then the team that he is coaching goes out and loses not once not twice but 3 times to the same team. If you can't see the irony and the humor in that then I don't know what to tell you. It's one of the clearest cases of glass house and throwing stones.....pot calling the kettle. ETC....you get the point.
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Re: DET @ PHI Wed 7PM 

Post#184 » by Finn McCool » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:51 am

76ciology wrote:
mercury wrote:
76ciology wrote:1.) Reggie Jackson should stop acting like westbrook and jacking up those contested mid range jumpers.
2.) If Pistons scouts watched game tapes, they should let Reggie Jackson post up Ish Smith and attack Ish's poor defense.
3.) Why do they let Drummond act like Joel Anthony in there? Drummond should be posting Noel AT WILL.
4.) Reggie Jackson did a really poor job passing the ball to Drummond at the post just a lot of lazy pass.
5.) Why revolve a really good portion of your offense around Jodie Meeks?

Just my thoughts..

Pretty much...
Dre was floating around the paint like he doesn't have a major bulk advantage... not acceptable... he should demand the ball then back Noel into the hoop support... his effort level from game to game is confusing.


You guys just need to try to revolve your offense around Drummond. Let him make mistakes and just space out the floor for him.

I do think that a Jennings-RJ could work in a dribble drive set-up with spacers and Drummond inside for a drop pass opportunity. Pretty much what our lottery team is doing with Ish Smith, spacers and Noel down low.

It's just weird watching the Pistons last night. There were some instances where Drummond is calling for the ball at the post. Then the PG asked him for a screen. When Drummond set for a screen. The PG then didn't use the screen and swing the ball to the other side, I think it was to Jodie Meeks. Just lack of direction. I don't know if RJ is just not familiar with your offense and just prefers a scott brooks type no direction offense.

If you were to ask me, and I hope I don't get bashed for this. And if I'm wrong, just take it that I don't watch much PIstons game. But Drummond doesn't have good basketball IQ be a fake dominant scorer ala D12. D12 was limited offensively but SVG was able to manufacture a good offense to revolve D12. But D12 knows how to adjust depending on the defense. He can play PnR with Hedo/Jameer or attack the post, depending on the strengths of the defender. But then he can be just be... raw.

Anyway just my thoughts. And I do think that you guys have the talent to be good but it needs to be used effectively. I do see some potential on the RJ-Jennings backcourt. Sharing ball handling duties would remove some responsibilities to make them efficient. :D


If you were Sam Hinkie, would you trade your first round pick(#1 or #2 overall) for Drummond? Would you do it if Embiid were to have more physical cmplications? Just curious. I don't think the Pistons get past .500 until they get past Drummond.
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Post#185 » by mercury » Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:28 am

Just to be clear... most everyone here believes Dre is the future... great talent... improving post game... and he dominates a lot of games... so when you see us bitchin' about him it's more like your child that you know could walk thru school with straight A's... yet he'd rather get hooked on facebook and video games.
Very few are looking to trade him.
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Post#186 » by 76ciology » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:20 am

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76ciology wrote:
mercury wrote:Pretty much...
Dre was floating around the paint like he doesn't have a major bulk advantage... not acceptable... he should demand the ball then back Noel into the hoop support... his effort level from game to game is confusing.


You guys just need to try to revolve your offense around Drummond. Let him make mistakes and just space out the floor for him.

I do think that a Jennings-RJ could work in a dribble drive set-up with spacers and Drummond inside for a drop pass opportunity. Pretty much what our lottery team is doing with Ish Smith, spacers and Noel down low.

It's just weird watching the Pistons last night. There were some instances where Drummond is calling for the ball at the post. Then the PG asked him for a screen. When Drummond set for a screen. The PG then didn't use the screen and swing the ball to the other side, I think it was to Jodie Meeks. Just lack of direction. I don't know if RJ is just not familiar with your offense and just prefers a scott brooks type no direction offense.

If you were to ask me, and I hope I don't get bashed for this. And if I'm wrong, just take it that I don't watch much PIstons game. But Drummond doesn't have good basketball IQ be a fake dominant scorer ala D12. D12 was limited offensively but SVG was able to manufacture a good offense to revolve D12. But D12 knows how to adjust depending on the defense. He can play PnR with Hedo/Jameer or attack the post, depending on the strengths of the defender. But then he can be just be... raw.

Anyway just my thoughts. And I do think that you guys have the talent to be good but it needs to be used effectively. I do see some potential on the RJ-Jennings backcourt. Sharing ball handling duties would remove some responsibilities to make them efficient. :D


If you were Sam Hinkie, would you trade your first round pick(#1 or #2 overall) for Drummond? Would you do it if Embiid were to have more physical cmplications? Just curious. I don't think the Pistons get past .500 until they get past Drummond.


No.

1.)Hinkie values potential and flexibility.
- KAT and Jahlil can be better than Drummond now, if not have the chance to be better in the future.
- Drummond is an expiring next year. (See MCW rationale).

2.) Fit issues
- Poor spacing with Noel

Drummmond is a very good player to have but he's not a good player to build your team around. Personally, I think the best way to utilize Drummond is to let him play the Whiteside/Ben Wallace/DeAndre Jordan letting him do what he does best. Which is anchoring your defense, being a great rebounder and being a great finisher around the rim.

But for the mean time, I think you guys can try your luck developing in his offense in hopes of him becoming the next D12. Man, I'd rather have that than RJ jacking up shots with inconsistency.
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Post#187 » by 76ciology » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:35 am

mercury wrote:Just to be clear... most everyone here believes Dre is the future... great talent... improving post game... and he dominates a lot of games... so when you see us bitchin' about him it's more like your child that you know could walk thru school with straight A's... yet he'd rather get hooked on facebook and video games.
Very few are looking to trade him.


I get your point. He's tough to contain and He's one of those guys that only a few guys in the league can match-up in terms of strength, size and skillset. He just needs to be used properly. I know SVG is known for bringing out the best out of his players.
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Post#188 » by joedumars1 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:16 am

76ciology wrote:
Finn McCool wrote:
76ciology wrote:
You guys just need to try to revolve your offense around Drummond. Let him make mistakes and just space out the floor for him.

I do think that a Jennings-RJ could work in a dribble drive set-up with spacers and Drummond inside for a drop pass opportunity. Pretty much what our lottery team is doing with Ish Smith, spacers and Noel down low.

It's just weird watching the Pistons last night. There were some instances where Drummond is calling for the ball at the post. Then the PG asked him for a screen. When Drummond set for a screen. The PG then didn't use the screen and swing the ball to the other side, I think it was to Jodie Meeks. Just lack of direction. I don't know if RJ is just not familiar with your offense and just prefers a scott brooks type no direction offense.

If you were to ask me, and I hope I don't get bashed for this. And if I'm wrong, just take it that I don't watch much PIstons game. But Drummond doesn't have good basketball IQ be a fake dominant scorer ala D12. D12 was limited offensively but SVG was able to manufacture a good offense to revolve D12. But D12 knows how to adjust depending on the defense. He can play PnR with Hedo/Jameer or attack the post, depending on the strengths of the defender. But then he can be just be... raw.

Anyway just my thoughts. And I do think that you guys have the talent to be good but it needs to be used effectively. I do see some potential on the RJ-Jennings backcourt. Sharing ball handling duties would remove some responsibilities to make them efficient. :D


If you were Sam Hinkie, would you trade your first round pick(#1 or #2 overall) for Drummond? Would you do it if Embiid were to have more physical cmplications? Just curious. I don't think the Pistons get past .500 until they get past Drummond.


No.

1.)Hinkie values potential and flexibility.
- KAT and Jahlil can be better than Drummond now, if not have the chance to be better in the future.
- Drummond is an expiring next year. (See MCW rationale).

2.) Fit issues
- Poor spacing with Noel

Drummmond is a very good player to have but he's not a good player to build your team around. Personally, I think the best way to utilize Drummond is to let him play the Whiteside/Ben Wallace/DeAndre Jordan letting him do what he does best. Which is anchoring your defense, being a great rebounder and being a great finisher around the rim.

But for the mean time, I think you guys can try your luck developing in his offense in hopes of him becoming the next D12. Man, I'd rather have that than RJ jacking up shots with inconsistency.

I wish that is what he did best. He hasn't become a Rim Protector yet, hopefully next year he shows alot of improvement on the Defensive end.
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Re: DET @ PHI Wed 7PM 

Post#189 » by Blkbrd671 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 12:30 am

Eyeamok wrote:
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Blkbrd671 wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:Stan Van Gundy says what Philadelphia is doing, that roster on the floor is embarrassing. Said he'd like to do away the draft altogether.

Stan Van Gundy on what Philadelphia has done with its roster: "Its embarrassing."

Stan Van Gundy on the 76ers: "If you're putting that roster on the floor, you're doing everything you can to lose." #SSAC14


it is embarrassing, whats your point


It's more entertaining than it is embarrassing. And since you don't seem to understand why I guess I will tell you.

SVG is not only your coach but he the president of basketball operations. Meaning the man is integral in building your franchise back to a respectable level. So with all this knowledge and wisdom about basketball that he is supposed to possess. He takes aim at another franchise that is in the rebuilding stage and says the above quotes....because he knows basketball. Then the team that he is coaching goes out and loses not once not twice but 3 times to the same team. If you can't see the irony and the humor in that then I don't know what to tell you. It's one of the clearest cases of glass house and throwing stones.....pot calling the kettle. ETC....you get the point.



Okay that's all and great, but my point is, regardless of if Detroit won 3-4 or lost all 4, what the sixers are doing is embarrassing. SVG point stands. ITs so embarrassing in Philly that apparently their fans need to feel validated after beating a team 3 times. The only point you have here is both the sixers and losing to the sixers are embarrassing.
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Post#190 » by Eyeamok » Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:34 am

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Post#191 » by Eyeamok » Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:36 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:
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Blkbrd671 wrote:
it is embarrassing, whats your point


It's more entertaining than it is embarrassing. And since you don't seem to understand why I guess I will tell you.

SVG is not only your coach but he the president of basketball operations. Meaning the man is integral in building your franchise back to a respectable level. So with all this knowledge and wisdom about basketball that he is supposed to possess. He takes aim at another franchise that is in the rebuilding stage and says the above quotes....because he knows basketball. Then the team that he is coaching goes out and loses not once not twice but 3 times to the same team. If you can't see the irony and the humor in that then I don't know what to tell you. It's one of the clearest cases of glass house and throwing stones.....pot calling the kettle. ETC....you get the point.



Okay that's all and great, but my point is, regardless of if Detroit won 3-4 or lost all 4, what the sixers are doing is embarrassing. SVG point stands. ITs so embarrassing in Philly that apparently their fans need to feel validated after beating a team 3 times. The only point you have here is both the sixers and losing to the sixers are embarrassing.


Really !?!?!?
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Re: DET @ PHI Wed 7PM 

Post#192 » by Lucidity » Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:12 pm

need4detroit wrote:
Lucidity wrote:Didnt get to watch tonight but I see everything went back to normal shooting wise aside from KCP who had a rare 2 hot games in a row which is nice to see.

Drummond with only 8 shots in 32 mins while Reggie had 17? The rook even took more shots than Drummond?!!!?! wow

We are in such bad shape if Monroe bolts, I cant even begin to stress that enough.

Our inability to even throw a post entry to Dre today was mind boggling.


The scary part is this has happened now both times Monroe has been missing this year.

These 2 are so vital to each others success.
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