3/20 Hawks at Thunder

[Rip2137]

Maf, don't argue with that dude...he literally only shows up to be negative...meaning he hasn't had a chance to be around much this season. It was game 6 of a 6 game road trip that we have been playing short handed. We went 3-3. We are fine. Rational fans know this.

[ATL Boy]

Maf, don't argue with that dude...he literally only shows up to be negative...meaning he hasn't had a chance to be around much this season. It was game 6 of a 6 game road trip that we have been playing short handed. We went 3-3. We are fine. Rational fans know this.

This. The only time I've seen that dude on the board is when we've had a rough stretch of games and lost a few. 3-3 on a Western conference road trip with the losses being against the best home team in the league, an OKC team with Westbrook playing out of his mind, and a team that had their best shooting game of the season isn't the worst thing in the world.

[theatlfan]

Honestly this one was a gut punch for me. Completely imploded in that 4Q. When we go flat it feels like there's 5 guys looking at each other asking who is going to be the one to step up and that's what we looked like in that 4th. Tip of the Cap to OKC: they hung around, capitalized on our inability to put them away, and then stepped on our throat when they got the lead. Still, have to think this one was more about us giving one away than OKC taking it.

[Maf]

Honestly this one was a gut punch for me. Completely imploded in that 4Q. When we go flat it feels like there's 5 guys looking at each other asking who is going to be the one to step up and that's what we looked like in that 4th. Tip of the Cap to OKC: they hung around, capitalized on our inability to put them away, and then stepped on our throat when they got the lead. Still, have to think this one was more about us giving one away than OKC taking it.

I understand your view but I'd say Boston L was much worse. This time Hawks played RW who really really plays like MVP this month or so. Heck he plays like top 20 all time this month. Dion Waiters who is about 35%FG for OKC was killing Hawks. Morrow and Collison hit everything. Against Celtics they built huge lead and then stopped playing hard. Against bunch of nobodies.

[Hawkamanic81]

Maf, don't argue with that dude...he literally only shows up to be negative...meaning he hasn't had a chance to be around much this season. It was game 6 of a 6 game road trip that we have been playing short handed. We went 3-3. We are fine. Rational fans know this.

They only beat the Suns, Lakers and Kings.

Everybody does that now.

[Hawkamanic81]

Yeah yeah. And two games ago it was 13-6 which is about 0.68 which would still lead whole Eastern conference for a season. You're overacting too much to two L's.

Put it this way. Hawks are 12-5 since february with Korver on the floor. 1-3 without him. You can say Korver is minor injury but he's much more important to what this team play.

Plus, I might be wrong, this is only my opinion. It seems to me Bud tries couple of new plays. The old ones work great so now he wants team to master more plays. Like how many times you see that play with two bigs at top of the key? Hawks scored almost every time they run this play. I don't see this one that often now.

Korver was a backup 10 years for a reason. He isn't that good.

Sorry, but Golden State was missing Thompson and OKC was missing Durant, Serge and Kanter and so the excuse that the Hawks were missing Kyle Korver doesn't hold up. All of those players are better than Kyle Korver who is basically a career reserve.

[theatlfan]

I understand your view but I'd say Boston L was much worse. This time Hawks played RW who really really plays like MVP this month or so. Heck he plays like top 20 all time this month. Dion Waiters who is about 35%FG for OKC was killing Hawks. Morrow and Collison hit everything. Against Celtics they built huge lead and then stopped playing hard. Against bunch of nobodies.

I think last night actually hurt more than the BOS game honestly. @ BOS, we had 1/3 of the roster making the trip to AS weekend (pretty sure it was the last game before the break) and the other 2/3 ready for a break. We got up big early against a team we were clearly better than then relaxed and started thinking about how we'd spend the week off. For BOS's part, we had the huge (20 pt?) comeback on them earlier in the season and you know they were talking about it in the breaks. Further, IIRC, Coach Bud was a little more liberal in his subs that game too (which is a Catch-22 for me - I like that the backups get the burn and the starters rest, but it also leaves us open to comebacks against lesser teams and can make 4Q interesting even in the games we win). Still, we held onto the lead until the last shot which wasn't even a great shot - it just went in.

Against OKC, we knew they were good and we needed to make a statement after getting destroyed by GSW, instead we dropped the ball. And what probably hurt the most was that after they took the lead, we didn't have the "Come to Jesus" moment where we dug deep and made it a battle to the end - they continued to bury us deeper and deeper. Again, tip the hat to OKC. We may have given it away, but they also took what we gave and that doesn't always happen. Still though, it hurt.

[Rip2137]

You are missing that we simply don't have the personnel to maintain what we generally do. We went from a deadly three point team that forced you to stay at home and not defend the pick and roll to a team that is, honestly, a little short on shooting right now. Especially at the wing. With no one fears Bazemores shot and off the bench, we got nothing coming in that anyone fears(we should play Jenkins more but I am seeing the defensive issues he is having.) until we get one or two guys back, we are going to struggle a bit.

The hardest part about making a great team is finding your rotation. You can take a hit here or there but most teams are going to have ups and downs when missing three guys.