Detroit vs Memphis 03.17.2015

[sc8581]

Speaking of Josh Smith (from previous page)...

Some posters on this forum actually believed Smith was a better player than Monroe. Looking back at it, that's a hilarious conclusion.

Like I said, this forum has some of the worst armchair analysts out of all the online communities I frequent.

Most of those you're referring to thought Smith was a better PF, not necessarily a better player. Neither has been proven has it? Didn't think so

[DBC10]

Speaking of Josh Smith (from previous page)...

Some posters on this forum actually believed Smith was a better player than Monroe. Looking back at it, that's a hilarious conclusion.

Like I said, this forum has some of the worst armchair analysts out of all the online communities I frequent.

Most of those you're referring to thought Smith was a better PF, not necessarily a better player. Neither has been proven has it? Didn't think so

Go ahead and include yourself in that group then haha. I'm just poking fun at the whole thing, relax sc.

I'm not beating this dead horse again since Smith is long gone haha.

[sc8581]

Speaking of Josh Smith (from previous page)...

Some posters on this forum actually believed Smith was a better player than Monroe. Looking back at it, that's a hilarious conclusion.

Like I said, this forum has some of the worst armchair analysts out of all the online communities I frequent.

Most of those you're referring to thought Smith was a better PF, not necessarily a better player. Neither has been proven has it? Didn't think so

And they'd still be wrong, we had a better record with Moose at PF before Jennings went down than we ever did with Smith sniffing anywhere near a starting spot here.

5-23.

For starters, how many of those games did Smith start at PF? It also doesn't matter what their record was, it doesn't prove anything. SVG was trying to sort of showcase Smith so he could trade him, if we had the right players around him that may have worked. What's their record with Tolliver and Meeks? Pretty decent huh, maybe they are the reason and not Smith being gone. How would Smith have faired at the 3 with Tolliver at the 4? Houston has a better record than we do since signing Smith, guess he's better right? Exactly, it makes no sense just like your argument.

[DBC10]

Most of those you're referring to thought Smith was a better PF, not necessarily a better player. Neither has been proven has it? Didn't think so

And they'd still be wrong, we had a better record with Moose at PF before Jennings went down than we ever did with Smith sniffing anywhere near a starting spot here.

5-23.

For starters, how many of those games did Smith start at PF? It also doesn't matter what their record was, it doesn't prove anything. SVG was trying to sort of showcase Smith so he could trade him, if we had the right players around him that may have worked. What's their record with Tolliver and Meeks? Pretty decent huh, maybe they are the reason and not Smith being gone. How would Smith have faired at the 3 with Tolliver at the 4? Houston has a better record than we do since signing Smith, guess he's better right? Exactly, it makes no sense just like your argument.

Well I edited my post since then since I knew you were going to drag along an argument regardless.

If you somehow missed the plethora of posts saying that Smith plays exactly the same at the 3 or 4 on here then I don't know what else to tell you, since it wouldn't have mattered. He commanded too much money at the time and wanted touches like a 1st option because of it. Look at HOU, they started Smith with Howard and their record was absolutely terrible and even Harden suffered as a result. It was only when they benched him they began to bounce back. That more than tells you something since Bev can shoot the 3ball, Harden also can, and Aria can also. But they still couldn't make Smith and Howard work. Smith and Dre wouldn't have worked even if we did surrounded them with shooters, since HOU tried that experiment.

It doesn't matter what the record would have been with Smith sitting, our team was better with Smith off court than Monroe off court was during the Smith era. That alone says enough.

Let's be real, Tolliver did the same thing JJ did and Meeks went on a massive slump after his debut and we still had a better record with Drumroe + Jennings. Law and Meeks contributed sure, but it was primarily with our starters stepping up. We went on the longest NBA streak at the time before we lost to the Hawks.

That HOU logic only makes sense for Smiths case if he were actually good enough to start. But nope, he can't even beat out the oft injured Jones for the starter spot since he clogs the lane with inefficient chucking and lack of post moves since his athleticism faded.

[sc8581]

And they'd still be wrong, we had a better record with Moose at PF before Jennings went down than we ever did with Smith sniffing anywhere near a starting spot here.

5-23.

For starters, how many of those games did Smith start at PF? It also doesn't matter what their record was, it doesn't prove anything. SVG was trying to sort of showcase Smith so he could trade him, if we had the right players around him that may have worked. What's their record with Tolliver and Meeks? Pretty decent huh, maybe they are the reason and not Smith being gone. How would Smith have faired at the 3 with Tolliver at the 4? Houston has a better record than we do since signing Smith, guess he's better right? Exactly, it makes no sense just like your argument.

Well I edited my post since then since I knew you were going to drag along an argument regardless.

If you somehow missed the plethora of posts saying that Smith plays exactly the same at the 3 or 4 on here then I don't know what else to tell you, since it wouldn't have mattered. He commanded too much money at the time and wanted touches like a 1st option because of it. Look at HOU, they started Smith with Howard and their record was absolutely terrible and even Harden suffered as a result. It was only when they benched him they began to bounce back. That more than tells you something since Bev can shoot the 3ball, Harden also can, and Aria can also. But they still couldn't make Smith and Howard work. Smith and Dre wouldn't have worked even if we did surrounded them with shooters, since HOU tried that experiment.

It doesn't matter what the record would have been with Smith sitting, our team was better with Smith off court than Monroe off court was during the Smith era. That alone says enough.

Let's be real, Tolliver did the same thing JJ did and Meeks went on a massive slump after his debut and we still had a better record with Drumroe + Jennings. Law and Meeks contributed sure, but it was primarily with our starters stepping up. We went on the longest NBA streak at the time before we lost to the Hawks.

That HOU logic only makes sense for Smiths case if he were actually good enough to start. But nope, he can't even beat out the oft injured Jones for the starter spot since he clogs the lane with inefficient chucking and lack of post moves since his athleticism faded.

I love how you consider a guy playing major minutes off the bench as being "benched".

I never said Smith and Drummond were an ideal pairing either, I just didn't and still don't want Monroe back because he's also a bad fit. Terrance Jones is a pretty damn good young player by the way.

[DBC10]

For starters, how many of those games did Smith start at PF? It also doesn't matter what their record was, it doesn't prove anything. SVG was trying to sort of showcase Smith so he could trade him, if we had the right players around him that may have worked. What's their record with Tolliver and Meeks? Pretty decent huh, maybe they are the reason and not Smith being gone. How would Smith have faired at the 3 with Tolliver at the 4? Houston has a better record than we do since signing Smith, guess he's better right? Exactly, it makes no sense just like your argument.

Well I edited my post since then since I knew you were going to drag along an argument regardless.

If you somehow missed the plethora of posts saying that Smith plays exactly the same at the 3 or 4 on here then I don't know what else to tell you, since it wouldn't have mattered. He commanded too much money at the time and wanted touches like a 1st option because of it. Look at HOU, they started Smith with Howard and their record was absolutely terrible and even Harden suffered as a result. It was only when they benched him they began to bounce back. That more than tells you something since Bev can shoot the 3ball, Harden also can, and Aria can also. But they still couldn't make Smith and Howard work. Smith and Dre wouldn't have worked even if we did surrounded them with shooters, since HOU tried that experiment.

It doesn't matter what the record would have been with Smith sitting, our team was better with Smith off court than Monroe off court was during the Smith era. That alone says enough.

Let's be real, Tolliver did the same thing JJ did and Meeks went on a massive slump after his debut and we still had a better record with Drumroe + Jennings. Law and Meeks contributed sure, but it was primarily with our starters stepping up. We went on the longest NBA streak at the time before we lost to the Hawks.

That HOU logic only makes sense for Smiths case if he were actually good enough to start. But nope, he can't even beat out the oft injured Jones for the starter spot since he clogs the lane with inefficient chucking and lack of post moves since his athleticism faded.

I love how you consider a guy playing major minutes off the bench as being "benched".

I never said Smith and Drummond were an ideal pairing either, I just didn't and still don't want Monroe back because he's also a bad fit. Terrance Jones is a pretty damn good young player by the way.

HOU has been relying primarily on their ridiculous 2nd unit to win them games since Howard is out and they don't want to grind down Harden since playoffs are so close.

And I'm starting to lean away from the Monroe thing altogether. Not primarily for fit reasons since we had a great stretch when Jennings was alive, but players like him and Al Jefferson are starting to be phased out unless they're in the Western conf. Plus, because of RJRJ being acquired.

[joedumars1]

Didn't have time to comment during the game, but Reggie and Tay had their best games as a Piston.

KCP showed that enormous potential again, the biggest reason we made that comeback

I do wish Reggie was going up against a better PG tho.

Tay said in his interview that Memphis wasn't trying that hard or something along them lines too.

I haven't watched the full Philly game yet, i'm watching the reply now tho. Reggie isn't looking as good so far (i=in 3rd qrtr), KCP looking real good tho

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I just want players that fit for decent value

How can you find a better player logically than Greg Monroe? He & Dre love playing together, he & Dre are the main reason for our turnaround (10 gm losing streak aside) he & Dre have put up Godly numbers while we have won games. Every analyst, writer etc has been screaming from mtn tops for us to compliment these 2 with some kind of wing help/shooting for years.

The only clear upgrades (Lamarcus, Love etc) aren't realistic at all.

Greg Monroe on a team like OKC makes them the clear title favorite, he is the perfect #2 option. So instead of shipping him out maybe find that true #1 to compliment him?

& we are some how blessed with luck because we also happen to have 21 year old freak of nature Andre Drummond who is looking like the next mega star big man coming down the pipe. We also are lucky enough to have an experienced coach who knows how to use them great together as well as rotates them so we always have an All Star caliber big on the floor. Its literally the perfect situation.

Its literally mind boggling when guys want to break this duo up. They need their heads checked.

Tonight was a perfect example of addition by subtraction. I never "swung" with Josh, I just didn't think Monroe was a good fit either and didn't want to max him out.

& then the next night in Philly when our shooters went back to the terrible norm we got blasted by the NBA's worst team.

Greg Monroe is our only consistent offensive threat & is a damn good one at that, as ive said before the idea that we are better now or in the long run without him is comical.