Warriors are being disrespected

NZB2323 · Post #81 » by **NZB2323** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:46 pm

It's not disrespectful to say that the Warriors play in the most stacked conference of all time and could lose to a very good team in the playoffs, like the San Antonio Spurs, who had a historically dominating championship season last year, or the Thunder, who have 2 MVP type players, or the Clippers, who beat them in the playoffs last year.

FirstInkTDot · Post #82 » by **FirstInkTDot** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:54 pm

Imagine them losing to OKC, boy will this board be going on a Oakland gangbang on the Warriors.

clippertown · Post #83 » by **clippertown** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:59 pm

I don't see any disrespect only admiration for a fantastic season. Still, I am not convinced that GSW will get their first ring with their current lineup. Playoffs are slow and physical while GSW is fast and nimble. If the refs call games like they do in the regular season, then GSW has a great chance. If they call games like they did last playoffs, I doubt GSW could beat Cleveland or Memphis.

Hornet Mania · Post #84 » by **Hornet Mania** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:18 pm

I can't remember a team that has ever gotten universal respect until they've had a deep playoff run. The Heat got seriously doubted in 2010 (Lebron is a choke artist, Boston will put them in their place, Joel Anthony and Mike Bibby are your starters? Okay. etc), I hear tons of people doubting the Cavs now because of Kyrie/Love's lack of playoff experience, it's just something every talented team has to go through before they make the conference finals. It doesn't seem to me as if the Warriors are getting it worse than anyone else.

If they make the WCF no one will be able to say anything, that's the only way to silence the doubters. No amount of regular season wins, SRS or advanced stats will change that simple fact.

Post #85 » by **PaulieWal** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:30 pm

Hornet Mania wrote:I can't remember a team that has ever gotten universal respect until they've had a deep playoff run. The Heat got seriously doubted in 2010 (Lebron is a choke artist, Boston will put them in their place, Joel Anthony and Mike Bibby are your starters? Okay. etc), I hear tons of people doubting the Cavs now because of Kyrie/Love's lack of playoff experience, it's just something every talented team has to go through before they make the conference finals. It doesn't seem to me as if the Warriors are getting it worse than anyone else.

If they make the WCF no one will be able to say anything, that's the only way to silence the doubters. No amount of regular season wins, SRS or advanced stats will change that simple fact.

This.

Plus, if anything Warriors are the media darlings right now and I say this as someone that likes that team. Curry should win the MVP, Green is getting serious DPOY talk, Kerr is a serious CoY candidate. Most analysts expect them to make a deep playoff run if not outright picking them to win the West. Not sure how much more "respect" they can get before doing any real damage in the playoffs. OP is seeing things that don't exist.

CallOfKtulu · Post #86 » by **CallOfKtulu** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:31 pm

I also think they are misunderstand by people who don't watch them. They're not reliant on the 3 ball; they're reliant on their league best defense. People think they will struggle in a slower paced half court game? Okay, good luck scoring on their set defense.

Besides, why do people think they won't be able to play a fast pace in the postseason? Misses and turnovers lead to transition opportunities. Guess what: the Warriors force more misses and turnovers than anybody.

JasonStern · Post #87 » by **JasonStern** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:52 pm

tonight, the Blazers are probably down Aldridge, Batum, Matthews, and Kaman - three starters and their second best bench player - and the Warriors are only favored by 6.5. so, yeah, I'd say they're being somewhat disrespected.

Madhouse · Post #88 » by **Madhouse** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:58 pm

2nd round exit 2013
1st round exit 2014

wake me up when they do something

Greyhound · Post #89 » by **Greyhound** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:59 pm

Mobby wrote:
MaxRider wrote:disrespect?
atlanta is the best team in the eastern conference
and yet everyone is talking cleveland coming out of the east
and they don't put them on national tv
who disrespect who?

Yeah, if the Bulls don't live up to our lofty fan expectations, I hope the Hawks and Warriors go to game 7, and as much as I love the Warriors, I'd love to see the Hawks win just to lend some credence to the system offense mantra (though Warriors do a damn good job of that themselves, but they also have more capable iso-players). Way more fun to watch than these star-laden late-game iso-plays.

Way more fun to watch, for you... and many who like to fancy themselves basketball aficionados. The millions of casuals who pay the bills and carry the TV ratings would strongly disagree. Give them stars and storylines, you can keep your ball movement.

No amount of fluffery by the media elite pushing ball movement will change that.

The team play and great ball movement of the Spurs was not the story of last year's finals, it was the humiliation of the evil empire (Miami Heat) and the humbling of the boogie man (LeBron James).

That's what is fun to watch, and the numbers support it (both today and historically). The proliferation of team play (ensemble casts in the Hawks mold) and a void of star power will result in a 70 's type league.

Not good for the bottom line... Short stint for Silver in such a scenario.

CallOfKtulu · Post #90 » by **CallOfKtulu** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:03 pm

Madhouse wrote:2nd round exit 2013
1st round exit 2014

wake me up when they do something

This is funny coming from a Bulls fan.

Madhouse · Post #91 » by **Madhouse** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:06 pm

CallOfKtulu wrote:
Madhouse wrote:2nd round exit 2013
1st round exit 2014

wake me up when they do something

This is funny coming from a Bulls fan.

Nobody is talking about us being disrespected and nobody takes us seriously. So you guys better do something with all the buzz.

MartinToVaught · Post #92 » by **MartinToVaught** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:25 pm

FirstInkTDot wrote:Imagine them losing to OKC, boy will this board be going on a Oakland gangbang on the Warriors.

No, the Warriors will get a pass because this board will still be busy bashing us for not winning a ring after calling us pretenders all year.

LeChosen One · Post #93 » by **LeChosen One** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:36 pm

Healthy KD with Russ would beat them, but I think they can beat everyone else.

TaylorMonkey · Post #94 » by **TaylorMonkey** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:42 pm

Manute Lol wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:Their regular season run is remarkable. But I don't think it will translate completely to the playoffs, nor do I think they're winning it all. I don't trust a team so reliant on the three.

If that's disrespect, so be it.

You sound more like Barkley tham Laimbeer.

Ironic since Laimbeer would acknowledge that defense carries, and Bogut and Green have some Bad Boys in them.

TaylorMonkey · Post #95 » by **TaylorMonkey** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:54 pm

clippertown wrote:I don't see any disrespect only admiration for a fantastic season. Still, I am not convinced that GSW will get their first ring with their current lineup. Playoffs are slow and physical while GSW is fast and nimble. If the refs call games like they do in the regular season, then GSW has a great chance. If they call games like they did last playoffs, I doubt GSW could beat Cleveland or Memphis.

Actually Curry already doesn't get respect from the refs and GSW has a huge FT disparity against them in the regular season despite being the #1 defense. If refs let calls go more in the playoffs, it could actually help GSW or be a wash.

Last playoffs the Warriors took the Clippers down to the final minutes of game 7 with no centers and without home court advantage. Playoff officiating wasn't the decisive reason why they lost, unless you are counting the somewhat clear foul on Curry by Paul in Game 5.

TaylorMonkey · Post #96 » by **TaylorMonkey** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:57 pm

dautjazz wrote:
MaxRider wrote:
dautjazz wrote:
OH YEAH, I forgot lol

i know people think lol kyle korver
but with him in the lineup
they can really spread the court
you absolute can't leave korver any space
he'll knock it down

How come you don't use regular punctuation, you always make your posts look like a poem.

Ode to a Hawk, a haiku.

MartinToVaught · Post #97 » by **MartinToVaught** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:59 pm

Warriors fans need to stop making excuses for last year's playoffs. Funny, when we lost to the WCF-bound Grizzlies in the first round the year before with a hobbled Blake, it was a massive failure and nobody mentioned the injuries. But you can't bring up the first round last year without Warriors fans crying about Bogut. Last I checked, you still had Curry and Klay. Also, as long as we're making excuses, our whole franchise descended into chaos right in the middle of the series because our senile piece of crap former owner couldn't keep his mouth shut. We wouldn't have needed 7 games to beat you without that major distraction.

TaylorMonkey · Post #98 » by **TaylorMonkey** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:10 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Fadeaway_Jumper wrote:Warriors are just crushing teams right now. No Klay Thompson and they destroy ATL with ease. Curry had a bad game against the clippers a couple weeks and they still won big. Tonight I saw curry abuse John wall and the wizards only scored 1 bucket in the whole 3rd quarter.

Many people say they should be afriad of OKC? I'd be surprised if that series went 6 games. G-State is the team to beat in the league.

for every game like that though, they have a 3 pt win over a Kobe-less, bad Laker team, a loss to a free falling Denver. GS is a very good team, but they arent invincible

Err. The Warriors rested Curry, Klay, Bogut, and Iguodala for the Denver game. And they were in it until the end.

For every game like that? Lol. They've barley beat the Lakers and lost to the Nuggets 56 times this year?

The Warriors have blown out the Spurs, Rockets, Thunder, Hawks, Clippers, and Raptors more than they've even had close wins this year. And the only bad teams they've lost when Curry is playing are to the Nets, Lakers, Jazz, and... no, that's it.

Seralin · Post #99 » by **Seralin** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:26 pm

Anything can happen during the playoffs. It only needs one injury to a key player, and all that records coming before mean not much. Imagine, Durant (and the other injured) returning for Thunder, and Steph or Klay or Bogut leaving with injury. Even without an injury, strange things can happen during playoffs. So, talking about disrespect without actually winning anything sounds nothing more than arrogant.

NBAfan3024 · Post #100 » by **NBAfan3024** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:31 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:Warriors fans need to stop making excuses for last year's playoffs. Funny, when we lost to the WCF-bound Grizzlies in the first round the year before with a hobbled Blake, it was a massive failure and nobody mentioned the injuries. But you can't bring up the first round last year without Warriors fans crying about Bogut. Last I checked, you still had Curry and Klay. Also, as long as we're making excuses, our whole franchise descended into chaos right in the middle of the series because our senile piece of crap former owner couldn't keep his mouth shut. We wouldn't have needed 7 games to beat you without that major distraction.

Wasn't just Bogut, Both centers were out so there were zero bigs available. Oh and being coached by Mark Jackson wasn't exactly ideal.