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Post#1 » by bwgood77 » Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:14 pm

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Post#2 » by MrMiyagi » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:50 pm

I'm glad someone sees that most of our problems are derived from our youth and that this team is on the rise. We just need to give it some time.
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Post#3 » by Jarlaxle0204 » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:26 pm

As always, an insightful article by Lowe. We're a team being built for the future. We're on the right path.
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Post#4 » by bwgood77 » Tue Mar 24, 2015 6:51 pm

Interesting, in one of the articles he linked to, where he had previously talked about Knight, I came across this...

Kidd thinks back to his first seasons in Phoenix, when he played with Kevin Johnson and under Danny Ainge. Kidd found Johnson’s game a bit irritating; Johnson would pound the ball on the pick-and-roll and look for his own shot before dishing off. That was not what a true point guard was supposed to do, Kidd remembers thinking.

Ainge had to take Kidd aside and remind him that not everyone had Kidd’s natural vision. Johnson was an explosive scorer, Ainge explained, and the Suns were going to let Johnson play to his strengths.

“When I look at Brandon, I think about KJ,” Kidd says. “We all want guys to do everything, but sometimes something just doesn’t develop. But we shouldn’t get caught up in what a player can’t do. We need to focus on what he can do, and when Brandon does that, the floor will open up for him. The game will slow down.”


http://grantland.com/the-triangle/milwa ... he-future/

The fact that when Kidd looks at Brandon, he thinks about KJ, sounds good to me. Perhaps he didn't like KJs game, but I sure did. But KJ WAS a damn good passer and I think averaged over 12 assists his second year in the league, and over 10 the next two.
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Post#5 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:13 pm

Good article and pretty much sums up what I've felt about this move from the beginning. I wouldn't have personally done it but I get why the suns took the gamble on knight. I'm willing to keep an open mind on it and hope for the best.
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Post#6 » by RunDogGun » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:19 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Interesting, in one of the articles he linked to, where he had previously talked about Knight, I came across this...

Kidd thinks back to his first seasons in Phoenix, when he played with Kevin Johnson and under Danny Ainge. Kidd found Johnson’s game a bit irritating; Johnson would pound the ball on the pick-and-roll and look for his own shot before dishing off. That was not what a true point guard was supposed to do, Kidd remembers thinking.

Ainge had to take Kidd aside and remind him that not everyone had Kidd’s natural vision. Johnson was an explosive scorer, Ainge explained, and the Suns were going to let Johnson play to his strengths.

“When I look at Brandon, I think about KJ,” Kidd says. “We all want guys to do everything, but sometimes something just doesn’t develop. But we shouldn’t get caught up in what a player can’t do. We need to focus on what he can do, and when Brandon does that, the floor will open up for him. The game will slow down.”


http://grantland.com/the-triangle/milwa ... he-future/

The fact that when Kidd looks at Brandon, he thinks about KJ, sounds good to me. Perhaps he didn't like KJs game, but I sure did. But KJ WAS a damn good passer and I think averaged over 12 assists his second year in the league, and over 10 the next two.

Honestly, i was thinking about KJ/Hornacek, and thinking it was Bledsoe/Knight repsectfully. Mainly thinking that Knight has a better curl shot that Hornacek was awesome at. However, Bledsoe doesn't have the KJ jump shot.
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Post#7 » by Frank Lee » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:55 pm

“The whole purpose of it was to give all three guys rest, so that they’d have gas in the tank for a playoff run,” says Suns coach Jeff Hornacek. “That was the plan, anyway. It was surprising for Goran [Dragic] to say he wasn’t going to sign back. It forced us to make some moves.”

I call BullSpit on that.... then why trade Thomas too?

Spill some more milk for us to lap up. :nonono:
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Post#8 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:43 pm

I don't get this talk about Knight having the size to guard wings, which I've read elsewhere also. He's above average in height for a PG but he's not carrying a particularly big frame nor does his wingspan make up for the height difference of these supposed wings. Someone please enlighten me
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Post#9 » by bwgood77 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:27 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I don't get this talk about Knight having the size to guard wings, which I've read elsewhere also. He's above average in height for a PG but he's not carrying a particularly big frame nor does his wingspan make up for the height difference of these supposed wings. Someone please enlighten me


Well I think his main point was that it was an upgrade from playing either Dragic, Thomas and Green defensively. Then of course he added, that anyone would be an upgrade from Green.
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Post#10 » by Mulhollanddrive » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:09 am

Good article, presents information from different points of view, without having an attention grabbing bias.

We'll match Knight, unless something unexpected happens. Think his max is about 17m, so we'd probably hope 14m could get it done, and without the drama. That'd be a good contract, worst case it's movable.
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Post#11 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:26 am

bwgood77 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I don't get this talk about Knight having the size to guard wings, which I've read elsewhere also. He's above average in height for a PG but he's not carrying a particularly big frame nor does his wingspan make up for the height difference of these supposed wings. Someone please enlighten me


Well I think his main point was that it was an upgrade from playing either Dragic, Thomas and Green defensively. Then of course he added, that anyone would be an upgrade from Green.

Doesn't mean he's some sort of wing defender lol I can't remember where I read it but I'm positive someone else wrote he's got the size to defend wings as well.
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Post#12 » by bwgood77 » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:31 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I don't get this talk about Knight having the size to guard wings, which I've read elsewhere also. He's above average in height for a PG but he's not carrying a particularly big frame nor does his wingspan make up for the height difference of these supposed wings. Someone please enlighten me


Well I think his main point was that it was an upgrade from playing either Dragic, Thomas and Green defensively. Then of course he added, that anyone would be an upgrade from Green.

Doesn't mean he's some sort of wing defender lol I can't remember where I read it but I'm positive someone else wrote he's got the size to defend wings as well.


Maybe like Brad Beal but probably not LeBron.
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Post#13 » by Mr Puddles » Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:55 am

Generously listed at 6'5, there was little Tucker could do on offense against longer small forwards besides spot up and shoot when open. At guard, however, he can exploit his opponent in the low post and on the boards, and does so with an obvious glee as he makes his poor adversary work that much harder, thus having less energy to expend on offense.


This is what I mentioned in the "Should Suns keep starting current lineup" thread as well, and I believe is a very overlooked advantage that we have with Tucker playing the shooting guard. Most opposing shooting guards are not used to the physical abuse that comes with trying to defend Tucker in the post - which is much more demanding energy wise than defending perimeter players.
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Post#14 » by Revived » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:11 am

Frank Lee wrote:“The whole purpose of it was to give all three guys rest, so that they’d have gas in the tank for a playoff run,” says Suns coach Jeff Hornacek. “That was the plan, anyway. It was surprising for Goran [Dragic] to say he wasn’t going to sign back. It forced us to make some moves.”

I call BullSpit on that.... then why trade Thomas too?

Spill some more milk for us to lap up. :nonono:

It's all just "saving face" talk at this point.
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Post#15 » by Blackification » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:11 am

He nailed it perfectly. I was legit impressed that he even noticed that TJ Warren is our best cutter. You really have to watch the games to figure stuff like that out. Props to Lowe for not just generating a perception based article like most in the media.

He made some great points, that last line was awesome. Shows people respect McD's basketball knowledge.
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Post#16 » by MrMiyagi » Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:56 am

Blackification wrote:He nailed it perfectly. I was legit impressed that he even noticed that TJ Warren is our best cutter. You really have to watch the games to figure stuff like that out. Props to Lowe for not just generating a perception based article like most in the media.

He made some great points, that last line was awesome. Shows people respect McD's basketball knowledge.

Lowe lives to watch the NBA. Not just a team, the whole NBA. I thoroughly enjoy his articles.
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