Would you trade up in the draft ?

[josh_nuggets]

Say we have the 7th pick in the draft and lakers offer us the 4th pick ( either russel or mudiay ) in exchage for lawson and our 7th pick

or if we couldnt or woudlnt do this trade, would you trade lawson straight up for the kings pick ?

I dont see us winning with lawson, and of late he just dosent seem to want to score at all and maybe its time for a PG change and trade lawson while he was value

your thoughts ?

[skywalker33]

100% on both options !!

[The Rebel]

I would not trade Lawson to move up 3 spots in the draft, Lawson is worth a top 10 pick alone, just look at what Jrue Holiday brought back and Lawson has always been better than him.

Trading him straight up for the kings pick is a trade I would consider depending on where they end up in the draft.

Personally I would rather package Lawson, Chandler, and Faried for something like McLemore, Collison, and the Kings pick even if you had to take back a bad contract from them. That allows you to go best player available at both picks as you have decent starters at all 5 slots, and gives you a chance to walk away with a very good player out of the 2 picks.

[StunnaStan]

Are you content with just making the playoffs or do you actually want to win a championship? Ty lawson has been outplayed in every playoff series he has started.


You guys don't want to trade him now, but when it it's his contract year, and he's going to want to be the highest paid player on the roster, maybe then yall will realize it's time to get rid of lawson.


And the crazy part about it is lawsons trade value is at the highest poinh it will ever be for his career. Do we expect ty lawson to lead the league in assist going forward? I don't.


As far as the draft is concerned, we already screwed up not acquiring picks at the deadline. No team is giving us a 1st rd pick in this deep Draft class. Where was this thread at the deadline? The same way you posted about trying to acquire picks in march when the deadline has already passed is the same way our organization is being ran. No calculated moves. Fire a coach to win more useless games yet still try to bench players for the tank.

The more appropriate title for this thread would be "is it even remotely possible to trade up in the draft?"

[StunnaStan]

Say we have the 7th pick in the draft and lakers offer us the 4th pick ( either russel or mudiay ) in exchage for lawson and our 7th pick

or if we couldnt or woudlnt do this trade, would you trade lawson straight up for the kings pick ?

I dont see us winning with lawson, and of late he just dosent seem to want to score at all and maybe its time for a PG change and trade lawson while he was value

your thoughts ?

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as far as that laker trade, I'd only be comfortable doing it knowing that Stanley Johnson or Karl towns is going to be there. As for mudiay and Russell, I'd prefer mudiay but I don't think the point guard position is what Denver needs to be most focused on. I only emphasize trading lawson so much because he has the highest value on the roster I don't think he's worth keeping if he's going to be the highest paid player on the roster

[The Rebel]

Are you content with just making the playoffs or do you actually want to win a championship? Ty lawson has been outplayed in every playoff series he has started.


You guys don't want to trade him now, but when it it's his contract year, and he's going to want to be the highest paid player on the roster, maybe then yall will realize it's time to get rid of lawson.


And the crazy part about it is lawsons trade value is at the highest poinh it will ever be for his career. Do we expect ty lawson to lead the league in assist going forward? I don't.


As far as the draft is concerned, we already screwed up not acquiring picks at the deadline. No team is giving us a 1st rd pick in this deep Draft class. Where was this thread at the deadline? The same way you posted about trying to acquire picks in march when the deadline has already passed is the same way our organization is being ran. No calculated moves. Fire a coach to win more useless games yet still try to bench players for the tank.

The more appropriate title for this thread would be "is it even remotely possible to trade up in the draft?"

Who said they would not trade Lawson? I know you like to put words into people's mouths, but you should be a little less ridiculous when you are doing it. Only a fool would trade a PG of Lawson's caliber to move up 2 or 3 spots in the draft, that is just dumb.

Also where do you get this idea that 1 player is going to make a team a contender in the Western Conference? Teams get better in increments, and in the western conference it takes time. Also I am not a believer that you need a superstar to win a championship. Funny thing about superstars, they are made in the playoffs, not in the draft last time I checked, and plenty of draft picks bust.

By the way who cares who is the highest paid player on the roster? The fact that Lawson will be making less than most teams 3rd best player should tell you all you need to know about how highly paid the players are for the Nuggets.

I like how you are the only person in the world that considers this a deep draft, every expert out there says this is a decent draft but no superstars at the top, and the depth is lacking, but I guess we are supposed to take your word for it? Considering how little you seem to understand about the players even on this roster l I think I will pass on that one.

[StunnaStan]

Please elaborate, what caliber of pg is ty lawson? Do you honestly think that ty lawson is going to accept a similar deal as the one he has now? He wasn't considered the best 1 on the team when he got his last deal. If he wants too much, we could always not bring him back or trade him similar to how phx traded dragic b4 he walked but what I'm saying is that we should pull the trigger on that trade sooner rather than later.

I would consider myself quite knowledgeable about the roster, as well as the front office that constructed the roster. That being said, both are in disarray.

[skywalker33]

Are you content with just making the playoffs or do you actually want to win a championship? Ty lawson has been outplayed in every playoff series he has started.


You guys don't want to trade him now, but when it it's his contract year, and he's going to want to be the highest paid player on the roster, maybe then yall will realize it's time to get rid of lawson.


And the crazy part about it is lawsons trade value is at the highest poinh it will ever be for his career. Do we expect ty lawson to lead the league in assist going forward? I don't.


As far as the draft is concerned, we already screwed up not acquiring picks at the deadline. No team is giving us a 1st rd pick in this deep Draft class. Where was this thread at the deadline? The same way you posted about trying to acquire picks in march when the deadline has already passed is the same way our organization is being ran. No calculated moves. Fire a coach to win more useless games yet still try to bench players for the tank.

The more appropriate title for this thread would be "is it even remotely possible to trade up in the draft?"

Who said they would not trade Lawson? I know you like to put words into people's mouths, but you should be a little less ridiculous when you are doing it. Only a fool would trade a PG of Lawson's caliber to move up 2 or 3 spots in the draft, that is just dumb.

Also where do you get this idea that 1 player is going to make a team a contender in the Western Conference? Teams get better in increments, and in the western conference it takes time. Also I am not a believer that you need a superstar to win a championship. Funny thing about superstars, they are made in the playoffs, not in the draft last time I checked, and plenty of draft picks bust.

By the way who cares who is the highest paid player on the roster? The fact that Lawson will be making less than most teams 3rd best player should tell you all you need to know about how highly paid the players are for the Nuggets.

I like how you are the only person in the world that considers this a deep draft, every expert out there says this is a decent draft but no superstars at the top, and the depth is lacking, but I guess we are supposed to take your word for it? Considering how little you seem to understand about the players even on this roster l I think I will pass on that one.

Well, I think you have to considered who that potential player is...not saying mistakes can't be made but let's consider what Lawson is bringing to the Nuggets right now: he quit on Shaw because he didn't like playing for him, he blatantly missed a flight back after a long All-Star break and got a DUI just before the trade deadline. On the flip side, he's having a his best year at 16/10/3 per game. He also has had a few games where he's disappeared......If I could get Mudiay, Russell or Towns I think I'd be OK with it, seems like a win-win for a team that is reloading. Not only do you move up to get a potential star, you're getting another $8-10M off the cap, which would allow us the opportunity to "bid" on a top free agent.

Also have to consider does the 4th pick have more potential than the 7th pick + Lawson. I haven't really heard this is deep draft, but the talent is definitely in the top 5 players. In Denver, it seems the best possibility to get a superstar is going to be through the draft, sometimes you need to take a leap of faith.

[tstrick33]

I would trade Lawson for a top ten pick, which is what he is worth. No way I would package him with our first to move up a few spots. Melvin Hunt has proved that our terrible season was mainly based around our players giving up on Shaw and not our talent. The post Shaw Nuggets are more like what I was expecting which is a team who's just one or two players away.

My main reason behind trading Lawson is because I don't see him as a good leader. He's a great talent but lacks the fire that Jameer Nelson has. I would love for us to use Lawson to get into the top 3 because I think Okafor or Towns are potential franchise-type players.

What I think will actually happen is we stay at 7-10 pick and grab Justice Winslow, who might be the best available at that spot.

I am intrigued about what we do this season. That McGee trade seemed a bit desperate to clear some room for someone in this free agency. It's going to be an interesting offseason to say the least.

[ET Da Gawd]

has melvin hunt really proved that? brian shaw had the team playing better at the end of last season then they are playing right now. i think you guys should blow it up sooner rather than later

[The Rebel]

Please elaborate, what caliber of pg is ty lawson? Do you honestly think that ty lawson is going to accept a similar deal as the one he has now? He wasn't considered the best 1 on the team when he got his last deal. If he wants too much, we could always not bring him back or trade him similar to how phx traded dragic b4 he walked but what I'm saying is that we should pull the trigger on that trade sooner rather than later.

I would consider myself quite knowledgeable about the roster, as well as the front office that constructed the roster. That being said, both are in disarray.

I think Lawson is a top 10 PG in the league, and whatever salary he ends up with in 3 years is not that big of a concern for me today. Personally I think he is easily good enough to bring back a top 7-8 pick in a trade, although I would much rather trade him for a package of young prospects that have shown some ability and a mid 1st than I would trade him for 1 pick.

Well, I think you have to considered who that potential player is...not saying mistakes can't be made but let's consider what Lawson is bringing to the Nuggets right now: he quit on Shaw because he didn't like playing for him, he blatantly missed a flight back after a long All-Star break and got a DUI just before the trade deadline. On the flip side, he's having a his best year at 16/10/3 per game. He also has had a few games where he's disappeared......If I could get Mudiay, Russell or Towns I think I'd be OK with it, seems like a win-win for a team that is reloading. Not only do you move up to get a potential star, you're getting another $8-10M off the cap, which would allow us the opportunity to "bid" on a top free agent.

Also have to consider does the 4th pick have more potential than the 7th pick + Lawson. I haven't really heard this is deep draft, but the talent is definitely in the top 5 players. In Denver, it seems the best possibility to get a superstar is going to be through the draft, sometimes you need to take a leap of faith.

Is the talent there? I hear that basically every draft, yet the odds are a pick in the 4 or 5 range is likely to be as good as Lawson is by himself. I have heard for months that this draft does not have any superstars in it, yet you say differently? Amazing how the talk about drafts and picks always changes this time of year. I am not so sold on this draft that I see the 5th pick being worth more than a guy who would be an all star in the eastern conference alone let alone a top 7 or 8 pick as well.

There is no way I would trade say Hejonza and Lawson for a pick 2 spots higher, I just do not see the difference in potential being worth that much. I would only even consider it for a top 2 pick, and even than I am not so sure I would do it.

has melvin hunt really proved that? brian shaw had the team playing better at the end of last season then they are playing right now. i think you guys should blow it up sooner rather than later

That team at least had a veteran center on it and a backup center that was taller than 6'8", this team has a foul prone rookie and JJ Hickson as the only backup center. However the reason that the team won so many games at the end of last year was that Shaw lost his power, there were only 8 guys healthy so he had to play them and they were able to play the way they wanted with no fear of Shaw pulling his crap. So they played to their ability.

Also that team did win more games, but they were not sitting groups of 3 healthy players such as the Nuggets did in 3 of their losses since the firing of Shaw. Not to mention the schedule at the end of last season was not near as difficult as it has been this season.

[Powder Blue]

I'm ok with trading Ty but I think he's worth more than 2 or 3 positions in the draft. As for saving cap space by trading him....from now on you are about to see guys much worse than Lawson making his kind of money. I'll make a separate thread on the cap.

[Amish Mafioso]

Utah will have a pick around 10-12, and may be willing to sweeten the deal(or throw in Burke ). I know Ty has made derogatory comments about Utah, but I'm not sure that's something that couldn't be resolved.

Any interest?

[skywalker33]

Well, I think you have to considered who that potential player is...not saying mistakes can't be made but let's consider what Lawson is bringing to the Nuggets right now: he quit on Shaw because he didn't like playing for him, he blatantly missed a flight back after a long All-Star break and got a DUI just before the trade deadline. On the flip side, he's having a his best year at 16/10/3 per game. He also has had a few games where he's disappeared......If I could get Mudiay, Russell or Towns I think I'd be OK with it, seems like a win-win for a team that is reloading. Not only do you move up to get a potential star, you're getting another $8-10M off the cap, which would allow us the opportunity to "bid" on a top free agent.

Also have to consider does the 4th pick have more potential than the 7th pick + Lawson. I haven't really heard this is deep draft, but the talent is definitely in the top 5 players. In Denver, it seems the best possibility to get a superstar is going to be through the draft, sometimes you need to take a leap of faith.

Is the talent there? I hear that basically every draft, yet the odds are a pick in the 4 or 5 range is likely to be as good as Lawson is by himself. I have heard for months that this draft does not have any superstars in it, yet you say differently? Amazing how the talk about drafts and picks always changes this time of year. I am not so sold on this draft that I see the 5th pick being worth more than a guy who would be an all star in the eastern conference alone let alone a top 7 or 8 pick as well.

There is no way I would trade say Hejonza and Lawson for a pick 2 spots higher, I just do not see the difference in potential being worth that much. I would only even consider it for a top 2 pick, and even than I am not so sure I would do it.

Funny how you'll put faith in Herzonja, but say that a higher pick is a crap shoot ...?? I have bigger character concerns with Lawson than I do with talent issues. What Lawson did was very unprofessional IMO, I really don't think that is proper leadership or influence a veteran should display to our younger players, it sets a bad example. You ask does the 4th have more potential than the 8th + Lawson ?? I say you have to consider what kind of internal damage could Lawson inflict going forward with his DUI and personal displays of rebellion as well before you say no to the idea

Also, I feel Lawson has hit his ceiling, or very close to it and I don't see him leading this team any further into the playoffs than the 1st round, especially in the Western Conference where we play. I see Lawson as the only way we going to move up.

I would love to avoid it by just winning the lottery, but I'd still entertain trading Lawson as his value is at high as it's going to get.

[The Rebel]

Well, I think you have to considered who that potential player is...not saying mistakes can't be made but let's consider what Lawson is bringing to the Nuggets right now: he quit on Shaw because he didn't like playing for him, he blatantly missed a flight back after a long All-Star break and got a DUI just before the trade deadline. On the flip side, he's having a his best year at 16/10/3 per game. He also has had a few games where he's disappeared......If I could get Mudiay, Russell or Towns I think I'd be OK with it, seems like a win-win for a team that is reloading. Not only do you move up to get a potential star, you're getting another $8-10M off the cap, which would allow us the opportunity to "bid" on a top free agent.

Also have to consider does the 4th pick have more potential than the 7th pick + Lawson. I haven't really heard this is deep draft, but the talent is definitely in the top 5 players. In Denver, it seems the best possibility to get a superstar is going to be through the draft, sometimes you need to take a leap of faith.

Is the talent there? I hear that basically every draft, yet the odds are a pick in the 4 or 5 range is likely to be as good as Lawson is by himself. I have heard for months that this draft does not have any superstars in it, yet you say differently? Amazing how the talk about drafts and picks always changes this time of year. I am not so sold on this draft that I see the 5th pick being worth more than a guy who would be an all star in the eastern conference alone let alone a top 7 or 8 pick as well.

There is no way I would trade say Hejonza and Lawson for a pick 2 spots higher, I just do not see the difference in potential being worth that much. I would only even consider it for a top 2 pick, and even than I am not so sure I would do it.

Funny how you'll put faith in Herzonja, but say that a higher pick is a crap shoot ...?? I have bigger character concerns with Lawson than I do with talent issues. What Lawson did was very unprofessional IMO, I really don't think that is proper leadership or influence a veteran should display to our younger players, it sets a bad example. You ask does the 4th have more potential than the 8th + Lawson ?? I say you have to consider what kind of internal damage could Lawson inflict going forward with his DUI and personal displays of rebellion as well before you say no to the idea

Also, I feel Lawson has hit his ceiling, or very close to it and I don't see him leading this team any further into the playoffs than the 1st round, especially in the Western Conference where we play. I see Lawson as the only way we going to move up.

I would love to avoid it by just winning the lottery, but I'd still entertain trading Lawson as his value is at high as it's going to get.

I did I said the pick at that spot, which would get you a guy like Herzonja. Also I have not heard that Lawson lead any rebellion, in fact from what I saw and what the stats say Lawson was by far our best player until the last week or two, and watching the games it was guys like Faried, Foye, Jameer Nelson, Afflalo, and McGee that were the ones most heavily involved in the team quitting, until the very last few days of Shaw.

As for trading Lawson that is fine, if you get back a worthwhile package, and moving up 2 or 3 slots by using a top 10 PG is ridiculous. As I said I consider Lawson to be worth a 7th or 8th pick, which is far less than the value that Jrue Holiday brought back about 19 months ago.

So would you trade Justice Winslow and someone like Porzingis to get the worse of the top 5 picks?

[skywalker33]

Is the talent there? I hear that basically every draft, yet the odds are a pick in the 4 or 5 range is likely to be as good as Lawson is by himself. I have heard for months that this draft does not have any superstars in it, yet you say differently? Amazing how the talk about drafts and picks always changes this time of year. I am not so sold on this draft that I see the 5th pick being worth more than a guy who would be an all star in the eastern conference alone let alone a top 7 or 8 pick as well.

There is no way I would trade say Hejonza and Lawson for a pick 2 spots higher, I just do not see the difference in potential being worth that much. I would only even consider it for a top 2 pick, and even than I am not so sure I would do it.

Funny how you'll put faith in Herzonja, but say that a higher pick is a crap shoot ...?? I have bigger character concerns with Lawson than I do with talent issues. What Lawson did was very unprofessional IMO, I really don't think that is proper leadership or influence a veteran should display to our younger players, it sets a bad example. You ask does the 4th have more potential than the 8th + Lawson ?? I say you have to consider what kind of internal damage could Lawson inflict going forward with his DUI and personal displays of rebellion as well before you say no to the idea

Also, I feel Lawson has hit his ceiling, or very close to it and I don't see him leading this team any further into the playoffs than the 1st round, especially in the Western Conference where we play. I see Lawson as the only way we going to move up.

I would love to avoid it by just winning the lottery, but I'd still entertain trading Lawson as his value is at high as it's going to get.

I did I said the pick at that spot, which would get you a guy like Herzonja. Also I have not heard that Lawson lead any rebellion, in fact from what I saw and what the stats say Lawson was by far our best player until the last week or two, and watching the games it was guys like Faried, Foye, Jameer Nelson, Afflalo, and McGee that were the ones most heavily involved in the team quitting, until the very last few days of Shaw.

As for trading Lawson that is fine, if you get back a worthwhile package, and moving up 2 or 3 slots by using a top 10 PG is ridiculous. As I said I consider Lawson to be worth a 7th or 8th pick, which is far less than the value that Jrue Holiday brought back about 19 months ago.

So would you trade Justice Winslow and someone like Porzingis to get the worse of the top 5 picks?

Well, I never said he led a rebellion, it was his personal conduct that was very detrimental to the team. His DUI and then his blatant late return from the All-Star break was what I was referring to. I can agree with AA, Foye and Faried showing rebellious issues as well, don't want to intimate all were in cahoots, but it seems Lawson whose actions were most detrimental to the team (lowering his trade value to the point of diminishing returns). I don't know if he was internally being talked about him being traded (our dysfunctional FO is another whole story) but his actions spoke volumes to the implosion of this team.

If you want to compare the Holiday trade to that of what we could get for Lawson, it's like comparing the Mozgov trade for two #1's....both fortuitous anomalies IMO. I do agree that we could get SAC to pony up their #1, but only because of the relationship with Karl and the GM.

My premise to moving up is really to get either Mudiay or Russell. either a solid replacement for Lawson. Both have solid size and quickness and both have the potential to supersede what Lawson has already accomplished. To me, no other PG in this or the next draft appear to be able to do that, at least to be obtainable at our projected draft positions. I do like some other PG's like Dunn, Grant, Jones, Payne or maybe even Wright but all those have some red flag or don't have big time potential. I have always been under the philosophy that a Championship team must have a C and PG that are superior a and our center position is looking good right now.

[The Rebel]

Funny how you'll put faith in Herzonja, but say that a higher pick is a crap shoot ...?? I have bigger character concerns with Lawson than I do with talent issues. What Lawson did was very unprofessional IMO, I really don't think that is proper leadership or influence a veteran should display to our younger players, it sets a bad example. You ask does the 4th have more potential than the 8th + Lawson ?? I say you have to consider what kind of internal damage could Lawson inflict going forward with his DUI and personal displays of rebellion as well before you say no to the idea

Also, I feel Lawson has hit his ceiling, or very close to it and I don't see him leading this team any further into the playoffs than the 1st round, especially in the Western Conference where we play. I see Lawson as the only way we going to move up.

I would love to avoid it by just winning the lottery, but I'd still entertain trading Lawson as his value is at high as it's going to get.

I did I said the pick at that spot, which would get you a guy like Herzonja. Also I have not heard that Lawson lead any rebellion, in fact from what I saw and what the stats say Lawson was by far our best player until the last week or two, and watching the games it was guys like Faried, Foye, Jameer Nelson, Afflalo, and McGee that were the ones most heavily involved in the team quitting, until the very last few days of Shaw.

As for trading Lawson that is fine, if you get back a worthwhile package, and moving up 2 or 3 slots by using a top 10 PG is ridiculous. As I said I consider Lawson to be worth a 7th or 8th pick, which is far less than the value that Jrue Holiday brought back about 19 months ago.

So would you trade Justice Winslow and someone like Porzingis to get the worse of the top 5 picks?

Well, I never said he led a rebellion, it was his personal conduct that was very detrimental to the team. His DUI and then his blatant late return from the All-Star break was what I was referring to. I can agree with AA, Foye and Faried showing rebellious issues as well, don't want to intimate all were in cahoots, but it seems Lawson whose actions were most detrimental to the team (lowering his trade value to the point of diminishing returns). I don't know if he was internally being talked about him being traded (our dysfunctional FO is another whole story) but his actions spoke volumes to the implosion of this team.

If you want to compare the Holiday trade to that of what we could get for Lawson, it's like comparing the Mozgov trade for two #1's....both fortuitous anomalies IMO. I do agree that we could get SAC to pony up their #1, but only because of the relationship with Karl and the GM.

My premise to moving up is really to get either Mudiay or Russell. either a solid replacement for Lawson. Both have solid size and quickness and both have the potential to supersede what Lawson has already accomplished. To me, no other PG in this or the next draft appear to be able to do that, at least to be obtainable at our projected draft positions. I do like some other PG's like Dunn, Grant, Jones, Payne or maybe even Wright but all those have some red flag or don't have big time potential. I have always been under the philosophy that a Championship team must have a C and PG that are superior a and our center position is looking good right now.

That is probably one of the biggest differences between you and I, I do not see getting a young rookie PG to replace Lawson as something that should be a priority, In fact I do not really see the PG as a priority period. I think you can find plenty of veteran quality PGs that would fit in fine with a motion type offense, and can help lead this team.

I think the much bigger need is very good-to great bigs and a quality SG, good bigs are really only found through the draft, teams find ways to keep them when they get them. Outside of the Kings I cannot think of 1 single team over the last few years that has a very good to great big that has not found a way to be a very good team. SGs are hard to find these days, and a good SG will take a ton of pressure off the front courts. Personally if my PG can hit outside shots and can feed the post (which seems to be hard for many PGs these days) than I am fine with him.

If you look at the history of the NBA very few teams that won championships, or are even true contenders have their best player as a PG. Off the top of my head I can think of the showtime lakers, the 1st Detroit Pistons teams with Isiah Thomas, and arguably the Spurs over the last few years. The funny thing about all those teams is that they were pretty stacked teams who just happened to have their best player as their PG.

The Celtics, the Rockets, The Lakers (since Shaq and Kobe), the last Pistons championship team, the Heat, and the Bulls always had much better talent at other spots, and their PGs were for the most part after thoughts (outside of the pIstons where it is arguable that Chauncey was the 2nd best player on the team).

So if you believe that Nurkic is the long term answer at center and that Jokic and Joffrey are good enough to become your 2nd and 3rd bigs, then the next spot you really need to fill is SG in my book. Considering there are not really any dominant SGs in this draft then the next best option is to get someone that has the tools but is not fulfilling their potential.

So if the answer was say trading Lawson and others or the pick for a SG and a pick than I might entertain that idea, but I am not going to trade Lawson and the pick for the right to move up 2 spots and get a guy with the potential to possibly be better than Lawson in 5 years.

[skywalker33]

And I'm ok with the different opinions, I see your POV and hopefully I shared mine. I really don't see getting into the top 4 a strong possibility, but even so Herzonja (top 2 on my wish list at 7 or 8) may not be around when we pick as well. I do see how our backcourt would easily become a strength and that the 2016 (mock) draft is full of PF's with serious potential so I wouldn't be object to getting him if he can shoot the way he is expected to.

[pickaxe]

When you have value you have the two options: 1) Appreciate your value and run with it 2) Trade away because you see no value going forward but another team may see a HUGE value in the same player

That rule has to be applied before any trades. We do have something that is worthy of a playoff run and I actually think Melvin Hunt is more in the position we think Lawson to be in. We may want to run with Hunt for a season and show faith where faith is due.

Doing something "eventually" is gone once you make a bad move. So let's say our move doesn't pan out. "Eventually" completely goes away because now you don't have the same unit that inspired you to move up in the first place. Remember how lost we were just a few months ago under Shaw?

Hunt and this crew at least still inspire us to trade up at some point. We do have to swim into the deep end eventually....but these guys all know how to swim. We don't want to put together a miss-mash team and watch them just sink.

I say we appreciate the small turn of fortune with Gallo coming back and Melvin Hunt's energy and we plan and plot out 2017-18 over the course of the 2016-17 season while enjoying some classic Nuggets basketball. Let's live in the inspiration for a season and take that momentum going forward.

I think we can support this team and get these guys to be an even greater value. For trade or for keeps.

[StunnaStan]

While enjoying some classic nuggets basketball? Have fun in lala land.

Here's a thought. Carmelo Anthony brought it every night in Denver and was always an all star and denver traded him with little hesitation. On the flipside, danilo gallonari will never be all star level, is constantly hurt, historically inconsistent, and the majority of the fan base wants to wait to see how much gallo improves. Head scratcher

And considering we're on course to lose more games than we lost last season, I hardly see how danilos presence, let alone performance, can be considered a fortune of any sort.