Carmelo Anthony

[sportscrazy]

Not currently, but last summer, what were the Bulls willing to give up in a sign and trade for Melo? I know Boozer/Dunleavy expirings had to be part of the deal to make Anthony get close to what NY could offer financially, but were Bulls fans open to offering Butler and/or Mirotic back then? Basically what was the best deal NY could have got summer 2014 before we saw how everything played out this season?

[BeatDaCavs420]

You know what they say all things happen for a reason

[musiqsoulchild]

Not currently, but last summer, what were the Bulls willing to give up in a sign and trade for Melo? I know Boozer/Dunleavy expirings had to be part of the deal to make Anthony get close to what NY could offer financially, but were Bulls fans open to offering Butler and/or Mirotic back then? Basically what was the best deal NY could have got summer 2014 before we saw how everything played out this season?

At best Taj.

[bullsRlife]

If it came down to it, I'm sure 70-80% of Bulls fans were cool with throwing in Jimmy and Niko.

The argument was always that Melo neutralizes what Lebron does, and Rose wouldn't get trapped anymore, thus having the freedom to go 1 on 1 or 1 on 2 instead of 1 on 5.

And the affect Rose and Melo would have on the team as a whole > the depth we have now.

That was the argument back then, but it would've backfired so bad. It was with the assumption that Rose would almost for sure be back to MVPish levels, and no more injury concerns.

Another talking point was that by having Melo on the team, Rose would be able to ease his way back in, and wouldn't have to shoulder such a big load on offense.

[bullsRlife]

^^^^^

And when I say 70-80% of Bulls fans, I'm talking about the millions and millions of Bulls fans in the state, and around the country/world. Not RealGM posters.

[sportscrazy]

I just wanted to torture myself as a Knicks fan haha and make sure we could have gotten expirings, an all-star and potential rookie of the year

[mhsiao]

I don't think any one but Boozer or maybe MDJ will be trade to match the salary than rest will be draft picks. I would image Boozer + MDJ+ 16, 19 picks last year plus king's draft pick.

[Axl Rose]

hindsight 20/20

nobody on this planet imagined Jimmy would be this good...he went from a question mark of "can we win with him starting because of his lack of offense?" to him being our best player...transformation like that rarely ever happens

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Don't think Melo would of wanted to come here if the deal was sending guys like Butler and Taj.

Boozer, filler and draft picks is all I would of given up. Giving up key pieces like Taj and JB would of left us in the same position we were in before Melo.

Safe to say things turned out alright for Chicago. Pau and Niko have been great additions this season

[pb-ceo]

the bulls fo dodged a bullet. what a disaster that would have been...it's the same old thing. the fo alternates between brilliance and bonehead.

[FreakMaster]

Carmelo Anthony WHO?

[DuckIII]

If it came down to it, I'm sure 70-80% of Bulls fans were cool with throwing in Jimmy and Niko.

I don't agree that the percentage is quite that high. At least among realgm Bulls fans, which are the only ones I really know. And obviously thank god on so many levels it didn't happen. Can you imagine how far out ahead the Knicks would have come on that, and how badly we'd be ****?

[DuckIII]

I just wanted to torture myself as a Knicks fan haha and make sure we could have gotten expirings, an all-star and potential rookie of the year

What fans would have been willing to do naturally doesn't equate with what an FO would do. To the best of my recollection, outside of a small group of fans willing to gut major assets for Melo, most of the talk was about Taj, McDermott and some picks as being the higher end of trade packages that interested the fan base.

But I really can't confidently even say that's accurate. I was never personally very interested in acquiring Melo. No offense to a well-meaning Knicks fan, but see the sig on my opinion of that guy.

[panthermark]

I would have not given up Butler, but like a fool, I would have given up Mirotic.

[bullsRlife]

If it came down to it, I'm sure 70-80% of Bulls fans were cool with throwing in Jimmy and Niko.

I don't agree that the percentage is quite that high. At least among realgm Bulls fans, which are the only ones I really know. And obviously thank god on so many levels it didn't happen. Can you imagine how far out ahead the Knicks would have come on that, and how badly we'd be ****?

I know thisbisnt the end all be all, but just going by fans on the radio, and even YouTube comments of fans saying trade whoever to get Melo.

And also debates among fans in how Niko could be a bust, and if he's the player that's keeping us from getting an automatic 30 pt. player, the Bulls are too in love with their chosen players etc.

There was a ton of that going on.

"Consolidate this talent. You only get a few chances to get a top 10 talent paired with a guy like Rose". Was a ton of that going around.

And I agree, we would've been F'd if we didn't get Pau, and was stuck paying Melo all that money with a bad knee, and Rose possibly never being MVP Rose again.

[DuckIII]

If it came down to it, I'm sure 70-80% of Bulls fans were cool with throwing in Jimmy and Niko.

I don't agree that the percentage is quite that high. At least among realgm Bulls fans, which are the only ones I really know. And obviously thank god on so many levels it didn't happen. Can you imagine how far out ahead the Knicks would have come on that, and how badly we'd be ****?

I know thisbisnt the end all be all, but just going by fans on the radio, and even YouTube comments of fans saying trade whoever to get Melo.

And also debates among fans in how Niko could be a bust, and if he's the player that's keeping us from getting an automatic 30 pt. player, the Bulls are too in love with their chosen players etc.

There was a ton of that going on.

"Consolidate this talent. You only get a few chances to get a top 10 talent paired with a guy like Rose". Was a ton of that going around.

And I agree, we would've been F'd if we didn't get Pau, and was stuck paying Melo all that money with a bad knee, and Rose possibly never being MVP Rose again.

I certainly agree that all of those arguments were being made. I just don't think that, at realgm anyway, those arguments reflect the opinions of the type of supermajority you described. I might be wrong though. It was hard for me to get too heavily invested in the threads given my lukewarm opinion on acquiring him.

[DuckIII]

And I agree, we would've been F'd if we didn't get Pau, and was stuck paying Melo all that money with a bad knee, and Rose possibly never being MVP Rose again.

I was actually referring to the not-having-Butler-and-Niko parts, but the Pau thing too. MVP Rose is hard to throw into the mix since we have no idea whether we'll ever get that regardless of who he's playing with.

[bullsRlife]

I don't agree that the percentage is quite that high. At least among realgm Bulls fans, which are the only ones I really know. And obviously thank god on so many levels it didn't happen. Can you imagine how far out ahead the Knicks would have come on that, and how badly we'd be ****?

I know thisbisnt the end all be all, but just going by fans on the radio, and even YouTube comments of fans saying trade whoever to get Melo.

And also debates among fans in how Niko could be a bust, and if he's the player that's keeping us from getting an automatic 30 pt. player, the Bulls are too in love with their chosen players etc.

There was a ton of that going on.

"Consolidate this talent. You only get a few chances to get a top 10 talent paired with a guy like Rose". Was a ton of that going around.

And I agree, we would've been F'd if we didn't get Pau, and was stuck paying Melo all that money with a bad knee, and Rose possibly never being MVP Rose again.

I certainly agree that all of those arguments were being made. I just don't think that, at realgm anyway, those arguments reflect the opinions of the type of supermajority you described. I might be wrong though. It was hard for me to get too heavily invested in the threads given my lukewarm opinion on acquiring him.

I don't think RealGM posters would've done the deal (although many many would), but I'm sure the casuals and global fans would've done it if push came to shove.

[ADDinChicago]

Not currently, but last summer, what were the Bulls willing to give up in a sign and trade for Melo? I know Boozer/Dunleavy expirings had to be part of the deal to make Anthony get close to what NY could offer financially, but were Bulls fans open to offering Butler and/or Mirotic back then? Basically what was the best deal NY could have got summer 2014 before we saw how everything played out this season?

The Bulls weren't really interested in doing a S&T when Phil Jackson made it abundantly clear they were seeking future assets if it came to that and not Boozer. They would have wanted Butler, Mirotic, pick(s) & possibly more. Basically, if Melo wanted to leave and keep his rights, they weren't going to help him unless they got to fleece a team in exchange.

The "best" deal the Knicks could have gotten over the summer virtually didn't exist because of the Bulls wanting one thing and the Knicks demanding another. There was no "happy medium". The Knicks weren't going to help Melo get more money and leave. There was that week before free agency too where ESPN & NBA TV basically went over where Melo could have gone (Chicago, Lakers, Dallas, Houston) and how he could have done a S&T, but no one was going to meet the Knicks demands. Melo also wasn't going to leave money on the table. Once that was out there, I don't know why or if the Bulls thought they even had a chance to get him.

I think some fans were open to offering Butler & Mirotic as some were hellbent on Melo. I was personally not as Melo wasn't enough to get the Bulls to the next level, has always been about the money and would have destroyed the Bulls' cap going forward (in addition to hurting the roster). But, I had been anti-Melo for a while. He scores, but that's it and I really didn't like the idea of him being in a Bulls uni when he was 34 or 35 and basically Kobeing it. I always said build the roster and keep that cap flexible. Especially because heading into the summer we didn't know what Rose was capable of. I'm glad it didn't happen. But it has nothing to do with how Melo's season went. It had everything to do with not investing that much money in a guy like Melo and what it would have done to the roster for 4-5 years.

[bullsRlife]

And I agree, we would've been F'd if we didn't get Pau, and was stuck paying Melo all that money with a bad knee, and Rose possibly never being MVP Rose again.

I was actually referring to the not-having-Butler-and-Niko parts, but the Pau thing too. MVP Rose is hard to throw into the mix since we have no idea whether we'll ever get that regardless of who he's playing with.

Yeah, I was referring to Pau, and the current team we have now. Could you imagine Niko getting the green light in NY, and putting up 23 and 7 his rookie season, while Melo's on the sidelines, and Rose/Taj are just coming back from injuries.

I cringe when I think of what might have been.