Official Randy Wittman Thread - It's Playoff Randy Time LOL

[nate33]

And being fair to Mike D--his teams never had a foundation for defense. He never taught much of it, he's also never shown that he can make a defensive team worse because that foundation was never there. For example--the Suns' major players never had a foundation for defense--Nash, Amare. Then he inherited Melo, JR Smith, and Amare again on the Knicks. The Lakers gig was rigged for him to fail due ton injuries.

Those Phoenix teams actually weren't that bad on defense. Their points per game numbers looked awful because of pace, but their DRtg's were solid. Starting in 04/05, they ranked 17th, 16th, 13th, 16th in DRtg. That's not bad when you're counting on Amare and Boris Diaw to defend the rim, and Steve Nash to defend the point of attack.

[Wizardspride]

And being fair to Mike D--his teams never had a foundation for defense. He never taught much of it, he's also never shown that he can make a defensive team worse because that foundation was never there. For example--the Suns' major players never had a foundation for defense--Nash, Amare. Then he inherited Melo, JR Smith, and Amare again on the Knicks. The Lakers gig was rigged for him to fail due ton injuries.

Those Phoenix teams actually weren't that bad on defense. Their points per game numbers looked awful because of pace, but their DRtg's were solid. Starting in 04/05, they ranked 17th, 16th, 13th, 16th in DRtg. That's not bad when you're counting on Amare and Boris Diaw to defend the rim, and Steve Nash to defend the point of attack.

Glad to see you mention this Nate.


I've been trying to make this point for years when it comes to DAntoni.


Can you imagine John and Bradley in that kind of offense?

I can.

[AFM]

Reunite Dantoni with Gortat. They need each other. Absence makes the heart grow fonder!!!

[hands11]

Randy Post Game.

Were supposed to trap. We didnt. We have no discipline.

I don't trust these guys to do any switching. But they were switching. Which we are not supposed to do.

Talked about the 90-80 lead getting blow because of lack of effort and gambling.

....

Man. That is some serious throwing his players under the bus. Randy back to his... its them, not me message. Bet the player love getting talked about like that publicly. Looks like Randy is either a total dick or he is just trying to save his own ass a little longer.

My comments. Ahhh... Those smaller quicker line ups seems to be doing just fine before you put Nene back in and instantly lost the lead. Gooden and Kevin line ups got you the lead. You are the idiot that went back to the slower line up that switches.

And you say that play was supposed to be a trap. Well it was your boy Nene who didn't trap. It was Gortat who blocked the shot of the last person that drove down the lane.

[FAH1223]

No D'Antoni

Bring in a young coach who can grow

GSW hired Kerr.

Find someone young like him or Stevens or Joerger. A proven winner.

[Earth2Ted]

I am just stunned at how ugly this collapse has been the last two months- and we Wiz fans are used to all shapes, sizes, and flavors of Bullets/Wizards fail.

Randy is literally asking to get fired, calling out the entire team publicly and repeatedly, and now walking off the court with his team still trying to tie the game. What does he have to do, dump the Bullets 78 championship trophy in a urinal at Verizon center? Once he does leave, he will never even get considered for another NBA head coaching job.

[hands11]

I think its really important they can him now so they can start to see what this team really could look like.

Randy made out. He got his cash. And like he has said, he will be fine. Some other team will take him as an assistant.

He might even get another HC gig but I would be a deal where the front office knows going in, that he is a stepping stone brought in to team a team defense. But he would best be used as an assistant.

I get the whole ... it was the honorable thing to extend him after what they did last year. But when you have SVG available, you do that. Or you offer Randy one year with an option. Not two with an option. If he didn't want take it, fine. No hard feelings.

I think this team was just scared to make a change so quickly after being out of the playoff for so long. I get that. It helps when a franchise establishes a winning tradition first. Stability of winning allows for more risk.

But there just seems to be a total disconnect in the front office regarding their ability to get him to change. Kind of like Mark Jackson was at GSW.

At this point, I don't think anyone would look down on the Wizards if they canned Randy. He has earned it.

[BigA]

What does he have to do, dump the Bullets 78 championship trophy in a urinal at Verizon center?

As long as there's a cupholder next to that urinal, he should be okay.

[closg00]

I think its really important they can him now so they can start to see what this team really could look like.

Randy made out. He got his cash. And like he has said, he will be fine. Some other team will take him as an assistant.

He might even get another HC gig but I would be a deal where the front office knows going in, that he is a stepping stone brought in to team a team defense. But he would best be used as an assistant.

I get the whole ... it was the honorable thing to extend him after what they did last year. But when you have SVG available, you do that. Or you offer Randy one year with an option. Not two with an option. If he didn't want take it, fine. No hard feelings.

I think this team was just scared to make a change so quickly after being out of the playoff for so long. I get that. It helps when a franchise establishes a winning tradition first. Stability of winning allows for more risk.

But there just seems to be a total disconnect in the front office regarding their ability to get him to change. Kind of like Mark Jackson was at GSW.

At this point, I don't think anyone would look down on the Wizards if they canned Randy. He has earned it.

EJ got paid, Flip got paid, now you want Randy to get paid and dumped. What about the person who hired all of these coaches that needed to be fired? When will you be eager to see his head roll?

[dckingsfan]

I think its really important they can him now so they can start to see what this team really could look like.

Randy made out. He got his cash. And like he has said, he will be fine. Some other team will take him as an assistant.

He might even get another HC gig but I would be a deal where the front office knows going in, that he is a stepping stone brought in to team a team defense. But he would best be used as an assistant.

I get the whole ... it was the honorable thing to extend him after what they did last year. But when you have SVG available, you do that. Or you offer Randy one year with an option. Not two with an option. If he didn't want take it, fine. No hard feelings.

I think this team was just scared to make a change so quickly after being out of the playoff for so long. I get that. It helps when a franchise establishes a winning tradition first. Stability of winning allows for more risk.

But there just seems to be a total disconnect in the front office regarding their ability to get him to change. Kind of like Mark Jackson was at GSW.

At this point, I don't think anyone would look down on the Wizards if they canned Randy. He has earned it.

EJ got paid, Flip got paid, now you want Randy to get paid and dumped. What about the person who hired all of these coaches that needed to be fired? When will you be eager to see his head roll?

We need a new thread - Eat EGs contract and Witt's contract but not one without the other.

[Dark Faze]

Honestly

I'd give Wittman a three year extension if that's what I had to do to get Ernie out of here

[fishercob]

I am a D'antoni fan. I have defended him in these parts when people tried to compare him to Eddie Jordan.

But I would have pretty serious misgivings about him being named the next Wizards coach.

He's 63. I believe only Pop is older among NBA head coaches. I wonder how his body would stand up to the physical grind and I wonder about his ability to connect with younger players the way a coach 15 years his junior could.

But it's not just the age. It's the age combined with the fact that he's financially set and that he has already cemented his legacy as one of the most innovative coaches in modern basketball history.

Maybe that's all bull, and he's Dick Vermeil and he'd lead the Wizards to a title. But I'd rather find the next D'antoni. Easier said than done, I know.

[closg00]

I think its really important they can him now so they can start to see what this team really could look like.

Randy made out. He got his cash. And like he has said, he will be fine. Some other team will take him as an assistant.

He might even get another HC gig but I would be a deal where the front office knows going in, that he is a stepping stone brought in to team a team defense. But he would best be used as an assistant.

I get the whole ... it was the honorable thing to extend him after what they did last year. But when you have SVG available, you do that. Or you offer Randy one year with an option. Not two with an option. If he didn't want take it, fine. No hard feelings.

I think this team was just scared to make a change so quickly after being out of the playoff for so long. I get that. It helps when a franchise establishes a winning tradition first. Stability of winning allows for more risk.

But there just seems to be a total disconnect in the front office regarding their ability to get him to change. Kind of like Mark Jackson was at GSW.

At this point, I don't think anyone would look down on the Wizards if they canned Randy. He has earned it.

EJ got paid, Flip got paid, now you want Randy to get paid and dumped. What about the person who hired all of these coaches that needed to be fired? When will you be eager to see his head roll?

We need a new thread - Eat EGs contract and Witt's contract but not one without the other.

The 3rd time is the charm right? Randy & Ernie go together, no-more coach firings w/o Ernie's head in a basket also.

[hands11]

And the teams biggest weakness right now is getting a SF/Wing to fill in when PP doesn't have it going. Well if he had half a brain, he would have invested in Otto more.. earlier and got Webster more regular meaningful minutes to kick the rust off.

I see Webster getting closer and closer with every game. The steal for the dunk was nice. He draw a couple fouls. Even got fouled shooting a 3. Vintage Webster. He moved to his spots well on offense. But lets remember, Webster has always been a player that is a rhythm player. He isn't the type you can play every 3rd game. That's not his game. And Randys none 3 pt shooting offense is not his game. Now the line up with him out there with Wall, Gooden, Rasual, Kevin with things spread and them in transition with Wall being WallStar... thats an offense he could find his rhythm in and he looked better last night. Still rusty. Still not in rhythm hitting 3s, but looking much better.

Now we need both Otto and Webster, but neither is in a grove.

Chickens coming home to roost.

Its like he fundamentally doesn't understand how players compliment each other, what their games are, and what gets them going. And he doesn't understand Gortat at all. And he would rather Wall be Rondo them Westbrook.

But as I pointed out, the biggest problem with this team is Nene. When he is out of the line up, Wall gets more aggressive. Wall should just ignore Nene is in the game on offense. Move Nene to the bench. Get him the hell out of the way and away from Wall. Lets Wall and Gortat lead this team. Then with PP. When he is one, leave him in until the 4 min mark. When he isn't, pull him at the 8 min mark or don't start him. That what you have to do with HOF 37 year old Paul. He can't do it every game anymore.

Sorry Randy. This is not the MIA team of two years ago. You are going to have to learn to adjust. You can't cookie cutter this sitting on your thumb throwing the same standard stuff out there game in and game out. You have to actually coach your roster to maximize the talent. It would help if you first understood your roster, which it doesn't appear he does.

[hands11]

People want to always turn every fire Randy post into an EG topic.

Can't people just vent about Randy ? It doesn't mean they are defending EG. We get it. EG much go as well.

But you put more objective people in a position that looks like its defending EG because you go so over board trolling ever Randy post with an EG post.

Like this. EG had very little to nothing to do with EFJ. That was all freakn Abe. Even the extension. Sorry if you don't realize that.

EG hired Flip. That was EG. And at the time, Flip was about as good a HC as the franchise could attract. Blame EG for the franchise being in that position ? Not without blaming the true train wreck.. Abe. Sorry he has passed. But even his own son said he was very involved right up until the end. Gil contract was Abe. Trading the pick was Abe. Win now win now.. Abe.

So here we are with Randy. Who was the assistant. Who stepped in fine when the guy they hired to coach a vet team was let go after the blow that vet team up for a rebuild. Randy, the guy that took them out of the first round last year for the first time in many year.

Should they have switched HC ? I think we would all say yes. Many said it at the time. Hell I wanted him fired before the playoffs last year for exactly the reason of what happened. But it wasn't a far out idea to resign him. Two years with option was pretty standard. But it was a gamble. And the gamble isn't paying off. So you cut your loses. If he stayed, I wish it was one year with option.

Firing Randy now has little to nothing to do with what they do with EG this off season. Firing Randy now doesn't mean EG picks the next head coach or that the Newman gets a 5 year extension if they win.

[closg00]

People want to always turn every fire Randy post into an EG topic.

Can't people just vent about Randy ? It doesn't mean they are defending EG. We get it. EG much go as well.

But you put more objective people in a position that looks like its defending EG because you go so over board trolling ever Randy post with an EG post.

Like this. EG had very little to nothing to do with EFJ. That was all freakn Abe. Even the extension. Sorry if you don't realize that.

EG hired Flip. That was EG. And at the time, Flip was about as good a HC as the franchise could attract. Blame EG for the franchise being in that position ? Not without blaming the true train wreck.. Abe. Sorry he has passed. But even his own son said he was very involved right up until the end. Gil contract was Abe. Trading the pick was Abe. Win now win now.. Abe.

So here we are with Randy. Who was the assistant. Who stepped in fine when the guy they hired to coach a vet team was let go after the blow that vet team up for a rebuild. Randy, the guy that took them out of the first round last year for the first time in many year.

Should they have switched HC ? I think we would all say yes. Many said it at the time. Hell I wanted him fired before the playoffs last year for exactly the reason of what happened. But it wasn't a far out idea to resign him. Two years with option was pretty standard. But it was a gamble. And the gamble isn't paying off. So you cut your loses. If he stayed, I wish it was one year with option.

Firing Randy now has little to nothing to do with what they do with EG this off season. Firing Randy now doesn't mean EG picks the next head coach or that the Newman gets a 5 year extension if they win.

What?!!?

[dckingsfan]

hands, we are just deathly afraid that EG will be allowed to pick the next coach - simple as that. We both agree they both must go

[TheSecretWeapon]

People want to always turn every fire Randy post into an EG topic.

Can't people just vent about Randy ? It doesn't mean they are defending EG. We get it. EG much go as well.

But you put more objective people in a position that looks like its defending EG because you go so over board trolling ever Randy post with an EG post.

Like this. EG had very little to nothing to do with EFJ. That was all freakn Abe. Even the extension. Sorry if you don't realize that.

EG hired Flip. That was EG. And at the time, Flip was about as good a HC as the franchise could attract. Blame EG for the franchise being in that position ? Not without blaming the true train wreck.. Abe. Sorry he has passed. But even his own son said he was very involved right up until the end. Gil contract was Abe. Trading the pick was Abe. Win now win now.. Abe.

So here we are with Randy. Who was the assistant. Who stepped in fine when the guy they hired to coach a vet team was let go after the blow that vet team up for a rebuild. Randy, the guy that took them out of the first round last year for the first time in many year.

Should they have switched HC ? I think we would all say yes. Many said it at the time. Hell I wanted him fired before the playoffs last year for exactly the reason of what happened. But it wasn't a far out idea to resign him. Two years with option was pretty standard. But it was a gamble. And the gamble isn't paying off. So you cut your loses. If he stayed, I wish it was one year with option.

Firing Randy now has little to nothing to do with what they do with EG this off season. Firing Randy now doesn't mean EG picks the next head coach or that the Newman gets a 5 year extension if they win.

What?!!?

hands has been on this "it was all Abe's fault" fantasy for years now. His belief that it was all Abe's fault is entirely immune to facts or logic.

In reality, Abe was involved in the team, of course, but didn't guide their basketball decisions, roster moves, contracts (except to approve them) or trades. He didn't ramrod the Arenas extension down Grunfeld's throat, he approved the contract on Grunfeld's advice. Similarly, Pollin didn't order Grunfeld to trade the 5th pick, he told Grunfeld he wanted the team to build a winner. Grunfeld went out and traded the pick for Mike Miller and Randy Foye because he thought that would help the team win.

And so on. The notion that Pollin was pulling the strings and that Grunfeld was just following his orders is nonsense. Pure fantasy.

Pollin told Grunfeld to win while staying under the luxury tax. Grunfeld assembled the team that was in the lottery four straight years.

[Dat2U]

People want to always turn every fire Randy post into an EG topic.

Can't people just vent about Randy ? It doesn't mean they are defending EG. We get it. EG much go as well.

But you put more objective people in a position that looks like its defending EG because you go so over board trolling ever Randy post with an EG post.

Like this. EG had very little to nothing to do with EFJ. That was all freakn Abe. Even the extension. Sorry if you don't realize that.

EG hired Flip. That was EG. And at the time, Flip was about as good a HC as the franchise could attract. Blame EG for the franchise being in that position ? Not without blaming the true train wreck.. Abe. Sorry he has passed. But even his own son said he was very involved right up until the end. Gil contract was Abe. Trading the pick was Abe. Win now win now.. Abe.

So here we are with Randy. Who was the assistant. Who stepped in fine when the guy they hired to coach a vet team was let go after the blow that vet team up for a rebuild. Randy, the guy that took them out of the first round last year for the first time in many year.

Should they have switched HC ? I think we would all say yes. Many said it at the time. Hell I wanted him fired before the playoffs last year for exactly the reason of what happened. But it wasn't a far out idea to resign him. Two years with option was pretty standard. But it was a gamble. And the gamble isn't paying off. So you cut your loses. If he stayed, I wish it was one year with option.

Firing Randy now has little to nothing to do with what they do with EG this off season. Firing Randy now doesn't mean EG picks the next head coach or that the Newman gets a 5 year extension if they win.

I nominate this as a HOF post!

[Dark Faze]

its never, ever a bad idea to continue to pound in the fact that Ernie needs to be gone