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3/25/15 - Wiz Vs Pacers

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Re: 3/25/15 - Wiz Vs Pacers 

Post#241 » by hands11 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:56 am

MikeTheKid wrote:J. Michael on 106.7 talking about what happened now, he says Webby wasnt supposed to be on Hill it was supposed to be Wall but Wall voluntarily guarded CJ Watson. Is Wall nervous on last plays on D? Doubt that idk though


Dude. That is total BS.

Wall was over in the left corner from the word go.

Webster was on Hill from the inbound.

Wall played the left baseline for the 3 and when Hill drove he closed out from the weakside.

There was never a moment Wall was hear Hill at the beginning of the play.

J. Michael is an IDIOT

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Re: 3/25/15 - Wiz Vs Pacers 

Post#242 » by hands11 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:01 am

McFilthy wrote:
hands11 wrote:
McFilthy wrote:Anyone can be a Monday-morning quarterback, so here...
+1 to the folks who say Gortat should have be in on the last possession for rim protection.
+1 for Wall should have been on Hill. No need to save him for overtime when you give up a layup on the last play and lose in regulation.
+1 for Torre Murray should have been in on the last possession. He is our indigent-man's Garrett Temple. (Temple is a poor-man's Tony Allen.)

What a disappointing loss that was, sadly, predictable.

I might be in the minority, but I think Nene is still a usefully player for this team, but needs to accept being on the 2nd unit more. Wittman relies on him more than he should.

Otto has not been great this season, but I think his lack of play shows that Randy is coaching scared.

Randy Wittman gets the gas face for his rotations and scheme on the last play.

Ernie Grunfeld gets the gas face for not signing Ariza, not enough offensive creators, 3 point shooters, ball handlers (and for the litany of sins as stated in the Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing thread.)

Ted Leonsis, you will get the gas face if you don't act soon.

Wow, there are a lot of fun cameos in 3rd Bass' "The Gas Face" video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYp28tEAVvs


"I might be in the minority, but I think Nene is still a usefully player for this team, but needs to accept being on the 2nd unit more"

Why would you say you are in the minority when this is what the majority is saying ?


Perhaps I am not in the minority. I was under the impression that many would like to move on from Nene completely, in particular with how much he is paid and all moaning about him.


It is on viable option. Mostly because no one believe Randy can do the other thing.

And because people question if Nene will except that.

I did suggest Josh Smithing his ass.. Yes.

I would prefer using his correctly or getting a player that does what they need at a better price or better fit.

Its all on the table. What shouldn't be on the table is using him how Randy is and prioritizing his touches left post holding the ball, turning it over, missing free through... over just about any other option on the floor. Specially Wall and Gortat.
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Re: 3/25/15 - Wiz Vs Pacers 

Post#243 » by hands11 » Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:14 am

exculpatory wrote:Hands - a question?

We all know Paul is closing out his magnificent HOF career.

And his overall stats this year remain remarkable: 12.4 on 45.2% & 39.6% & 58.6% TS%.
And he has hit MANY clutch shots for this team.
And for the 10 games immediately preceding the last 4 games, he was scoring even more & shooting 55-60% from 3.
And then for the last 4 games, he has **** VANISHED from the face of the earth - 5 **** points a game! Are u **** kidding me? Has he finally run out of gas at age 37 1/2? Is he hurt & not advertising it (which has happened before)? Many posters on my Celtics Board have incorrectly & very prematurely counted him out over the years, & then voila, he goes on a run of All Star/All Pro play - even when he was 35+ years old.

What the hell is going on now? Even his biggest supporter on the planet is getting concerned. This team is going NOWHERE unless he starts bringing it again & supporting WallStar. I am very frustrated!


Well here has been my position and it still is.

This is common of HOF vet running their last mile. They can still do it. They just can't do it on a regular basis. The car is running out of gas. PP has a great multi game run recently. You just have to know, those runs will only last 4-5 games at a time. You have to know that.

So its the coaches job to sense that. When they are on. When they don't have it.
And its the coaches job to keep them rested.

This is why I say.. Its Wall and Gortat first. 95% of the time. Then one of..... PP gets the first crack. If he can't do it that night, pull him early. Like at 8 mins. I would insert Otto as glue for defense and rebounds and turn to Beal to fill that slot as the 3rd piece. When Beal is out. You turn to Rasual or Webster get Gooden in early. Even Kevin can help some nights.

I still believe Webster could help there but you have to give him minutes to be able to step up into that role. Get him in with the starters. Thats when he is best. He has done it plenty of times before and he still can. But Webster is a rhythm player he needs minutes to get in his flow. And he needs shots. He plays off players. Using him to generate offense with the 2nd unit is worse then him being a 3rd, 4th option with the starters.

Actually, Temple is much the same way and we saw that earlier this year. Rasual did it for a while as well.

None are full time starting 3rd pieces. But they all can get on multi game roles. We saw that from Rasual and Temple. And Beal isn't always hurt so you can turn to him. And Gooden has stepped up nicely several times.

This team has plenty of pieces to be much better. Wall and Gortat have been in every game this year.

Its just... RANDY IS AN IDIOT.
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Re: 3/25/15 - Wiz Vs Pacers 

Post#244 » by exculpatory » Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:55 am

hands11 wrote:
exculpatory wrote:Hands - a question?

We all know Paul is closing out his magnificent HOF career.

And his overall stats this year remain remarkable: 12.4 on 45.2% & 39.6% & 58.6% TS%.
And he has hit MANY clutch shots for this team.
And for the 10 games immediately preceding the last 4 games, he was scoring even more & shooting 55-60% from 3.
And then for the last 4 games, he has **** VANISHED from the face of the earth - 5 **** points a game! Are u **** kidding me? Has he finally run out of gas at age 37 1/2? Is he hurt & not advertising it (which has happened before)? Many posters on my Celtics Board have incorrectly & very prematurely counted him out over the years, & then voila, he goes on a run of All Star/All Pro play - even when he was 35+ years old.

What the hell is going on now? Even his biggest supporter on the planet is getting concerned. This team is going NOWHERE unless he starts bringing it again & supporting WallStar. I am very frustrated!


Well here is my position and it still is.

This is common for a HOF vet running his last mile(S). They can still do it. They just can't do it on a regular basis. The car is running out of gas. PP had a great multi-game run recently. You just have to know, those runs will only last 4-5 games at a time. You have to know that.

And it's the coach's job to sense that. When they are on. When they don't have it.
And it's the coach's job to keep them rested.



Thanks, Hands. Your posts reflect excellent insight!

Yup. I know it. Got to face reality. Hard to do, but got to do it.

Actually, his most recent great multi-game run was about 10 games, not 4-5 games. Hope he has another one of those runs soon & also, when necessary, during the POs.
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