NBAPA Lawyer: Double standard exists regarding age limit for black basketball players and white athletes in other sports

[Neutral 123]

That Wisconsin team must be like "Is this racist for all of us white guys as well?" Lol

the decline of America will be precipitated in large part to the fact that race can be used as a tool to get the white majority to go against their own best interests. We have a lot of dimwitted folks who will defend policies that harm the majority and benefit the wealthiest few as long as race can be thrown in as a wedge. As everything not nailed down is stolen, at least the dimwitted can take comfort in believing that it is the blacks, the gays, the Muslims, the whatever else but themselves that have their futures looking more and more bleak. It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch to be honest.

[Yoshun]

Haven't read the entire thread but I will give some passing food for thought... There are a finite number of player jobs in the league (30 x 15). Setting an age limit negatively impacts a certain group of players who are denied entry. At the same time, it benefits a group of players who normally would have been displaced by the handful of 18 year olds who were denied entry. In other words, the age limit gives an extra year to a handful of guys who would have lost their jobs.

I have no further comment except to suggest that when you're doing a disparate impact analysis, you need to consider the makeup of the group that benefited from the policy, not just the makeup of the group who was negatively impacted by it. I'll leave it to you all to decide whether the makeup of the two groups is exactly the same in this situation.


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The same number of players are drafted every year, meaning, theoretically, the same number of players are displaced every year. It doesn't matter how old they are. The draft class is the same number regardless. It may help some players who may not have been drafted otherwise, but that's about it.

Not quite. If the age limit is 18, the talent in the draft would be higher than if it was 19. Meaning that, last year, since Jahlil Okafor wasn't in the draft, everyone in the draft class moved up one, making it more likely that the worst veteran in the NBA is better than the worst incoming rookie. So instead of having Jahlil Okafor, you have whoever the worst guy in the NBA is.

Yea but that's assuming the team would rather have the aging veteran over the young potential. That's really just a toss up, it could go either way. It just depends on what team has that last spot and who is on their roster.

[Sixerscan]

The same number of players are drafted every year, meaning, theoretically, the same number of players are displaced every year. It doesn't matter how old they are. The draft class is the same number regardless. It may help some players who may not have been drafted otherwise, but that's about it.

Not quite. If the age limit is 18, the talent in the draft would be higher than if it was 19. Meaning that, last year, since Jahlil Okafor wasn't in the draft, everyone in the draft class moved up one, making it more likely that the worst veteran in the NBA is better than the worst incoming rookie. So instead of having Jahlil Okafor, you have whoever the worst guy in the NBA is.

Yea but that's assuming the team would rather have the aging veteran over the young potential. That's really just a toss up, it could go either way. It just depends on what team has that last spot and who is on their roster.

Sure it's not absolute. But, in aggregate, the pool of veteran players is completely unchanged, while the rookie pool is smaller. Therefore it helps veterans.

[Yoshun]

Sure it's not absolute. But, in aggregate, the pool of veteran players is completely unchanged, while the rookie pool is smaller. Therefore it helps veterans.

It's slightly weaker maybe. I mean, the 60th player moves up to 59, so the last guy maybe is slightly less talented. It doesn't make much of a difference.

[Sixerscan]

Sure it's not absolute. But, in aggregate, the pool of veteran players is completely unchanged, while the rookie pool is smaller. Therefore it helps veterans.

It's slightly weaker maybe. I mean, the 60th player moves up to 59, so the last guy maybe is slightly less talented. It doesn't make much of a difference.

Well generally more than one high schooler would come out.

Just saying, it's an easy way for the current members of the union to pick up 3-4 extra jobs for its current members at the expense of people not in the union. And it's not just actual roster spots, not having the elite players of a class comes out means more playing time for veterans. It also means that the teenagers will have to wait another year to get off their rookie contracts, which, again helps the union.

[Yoshun]

Sure it's not absolute. But, in aggregate, the pool of veteran players is completely unchanged, while the rookie pool is smaller. Therefore it helps veterans.

It's slightly weaker maybe. I mean, the 60th player moves up to 59, so the last guy maybe is slightly less talented. It doesn't make much of a difference.

Well generally more than one high schooler would come out.

Just saying, it's an easy way for the current members of the union to pick up 3-4 extra jobs for its current members at the expense of people not in the union. And it's not just actual roster spots, not having the elite players of a class comes out means more playing time for veterans. It also means that the teenagers will have to wait another year to get off their rookie contracts, which, again helps the union.

Maybe, the difference is still very slight in terms of the talent at the end of the draft. There typically isn't much difference between the 56th guy and 60th. The same goes for playing time really. It helps when the rule is first set, but after a few years, the difference becomes small.

As far as helping the uinion, I can't imagine it helps them that much. They're the ones who hired the lawyer.

[GYK]

Jew thread locked. Race related threads should be locked.

What's with all the incessant back seat modding going on around this forum lately?

Get it through your head. If you don't like something, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CLICK ON IT, OR GIVE IT ANY KIND OF ATTENTION. Just move the **** on.

Sorry for the wait. I was banned for that particular post.
Well in a thread about double standards is it not ironic another thread that seems continuos about opinions on black males/culture etc. is made once again but one about Jewish players is immediately locked? Yes that's a double standard saying it's ok to speculate/discuss/dissect only the existence of African Americans.

Yes I could not click on it. I should have not to see it on a basketball forum. I should also have the option to post my disgust. I should also have the option to discuss other ethnic groups...and of course you did not have to reply.