Draft Thread: Who do you want with the 13th pick? Stanley Johnson and WCS added..change votes if you want

[JohnWall2]

So let me get this strait.....most of you guys want to trade Bledsoe??

[bwgood77]

So let me get this strait.....most of you guys want to trade Bledsoe??

No, and most of the reasonable posters haven't posted as much as of late. But of course it all depends on the deal. When people say "We have to deal the twins" or "We have to deal Bledsoe" those are stupid statements because of course it depends on what you can get back.

Back to the topic at hand. I wouldn't draft WCS...he still is a ghost on offense in college, and he is a junior...and he doesn't rebound a ton. Sure he blocks shots, but in the nba he wouldn't block as much, and he probably has limited upside.

Kaminsky I probably wouldn't draft either. This guy knows how to will his team to win, which is good, but I don't know if he has a ton of upside either and is a senior.

I think Looney might be the guy that falls to us that might be the best option. Or possibly Turner, but he is super raw.

[jcsunsfan]

So let me get this strait.....most of you guys want to trade Bledsoe??

There is a difference between saying you want to trade Bledsoe and saying that Bledsoe should be available for the right price. This team does not have #1 type player yet. They have to do what it takes to get one, even if it means trading Bledsoe.

[bwgood77]

If there is one player I would want from Kentucky (other than Towns) after watching this game it's Trey Lyles. He is projected as 19th on DX. If we took him I certainly wouldn't be unhappy.

[Damkac]

So let me get this strait.....most of you guys want to trade Bledsoe??

Only for a star. Right now I wouldn't made any trade that don't result in getting star player. If no star is available let's just keep our guys and have them learn to play together.

And back on the topic - just take some young, raw kid with big upside. He wouldn't play much in his first year anyway

[Mr-Al]

So let me get this strait.....most of you guys want to trade Bledsoe??

There is a difference between saying you want to trade Bledsoe and saying that Bledsoe should be available for the right price. This team does not have #1 type player yet. They have to do what it takes to get one, even if it means trading Bledsoe.

Very true

Personally however unlikely, I wish a team in the 4-8 range of the draft would trade a lottery pick for him

I trust the draft prowess of this FO, and if they're convinced that some guy in that range has superstar potential, I would do that trade in a second.

I wish the Knicks were that stupid

Bledsoe is a great player imo, but we shouldn't stand pat if we find that deal

[Mr Puddles]

**** it

1. The Morris Brothers + Knight to the 76ers or Knicks for Towns (I believe the Knicks can trade after picking)
2. Bledsoe + Tucker to Sacramento for Emmanuel Mudiay or Mario Hezonja

Mudiay / Yogi Ferrell (46 - mainly because his name is Yogi)
Goodwin / Bullock
Warren /Bogdanovic
Towns / Myles Turner (13)
Len /Towns

[Mr-Al]

**** it

1. The Morris Brothers + Knight to the 76ers or Knicks for Towns (I believe the Knicks can trade after picking)
2. Bledsoe + Tucker to Sacramento for Emmanuel Mudiay or Mario Hezonja

Mudiay / Yogi Ferrell (46 - mainly because his name is Yogi)
Goodwin / Bullock
Warren /Bogdanovic
Towns / Myles Turner (13)
Len /Towns

A trade with Sactown would be interesting, I think after all these years of lottery picks and lack of success, they might be open to trading their pick

A trade with the Sixers isn't happening. They have absolutely no interest in our players or their contracts

A trade with the Knicks isn't impossible, but it's probably going in the 1-3 range, and I doubt the Knicks would be stupid enough to trade it, even if they did want it, they would probably be most interested in Bledsoe

Bledsoe to Sactown would be interesting, because they might think that pairing him with Cousins would satisfy him from ever demanding a trade out, since they're like best friends

Of course, the Suns FO probably likes Bledsoe a whole lot for the Cousins connection, especially if he pulls a Kevin Love and demands out

[kennydorglas]

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[jcsunsfan]

I think Kaminsky is going to have a decent NBA career. He just is too skilled at 7-1 not to have success. His floor is a 6th man backup 4-5. His ceiling is borderline all-star at the 4-5 depending on the team. That is the interesting thing about him. His floor is high, but his ceiling is not really high. He is a low-risk pick.

[bwgood77]

I think Kaminsky is going to have a decent NBA career. He just is too skilled at 7-1 not to have success. His floor is a 6th man backup 4-5. His ceiling is borderline all-star at the 4-5 depending on the team. That is the interesting thing about him. His floor is high, but his ceiling is not really high. He is a low-risk pick.

At his best he looks like a poor man's Dirk, but I could see him never amounting to much also. He is a high IQ player though and a hard worker. More limited upside though.

I hope we can get Trey Lyles or Kevon Looney at this point. If not them, Myles Turner or Bobby Portis if he decides to come out, but Turner especially is extremely raw. All of those guys are pretty raw and would take time like Goodwin....probably not get major time until year 3 or end of year 2.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Part of me wants to draft a PG for the lols.

[jcsunsfan]

I think Kaminsky is going to have a decent NBA career. He just is too skilled at 7-1 not to have success. His floor is a 6th man backup 4-5. His ceiling is borderline all-star at the 4-5 depending on the team. That is the interesting thing about him. His floor is high, but his ceiling is not really high. He is a low-risk pick.

At his best he looks like a poor man's Dirk, but I could see him never amounting to much also. He is a high IQ player though and a hard worker. More limited upside though.

I hope we can get Trey Lyles or Kevon Looney at this point. If not them, Myles Turner or Bobby Portis if he decides to come out, but Turner especially is extremely raw. All of those guys are pretty raw and would take time like Goodwin....probably not get major time until year 3 or end of year 2.

I don't think we should be taking any long-term projects in this draft. They seldom eventually pan out and this Suns team hasn't shown any exceptional ability in developing them. Take a player that can contribute now, or trade out.

[Mulhollanddrive]

13/14th pick is nice enough to entice a team not to match, without giving up anything significant.

[bwgood77]

I think Kaminsky is going to have a decent NBA career. He just is too skilled at 7-1 not to have success. His floor is a 6th man backup 4-5. His ceiling is borderline all-star at the 4-5 depending on the team. That is the interesting thing about him. His floor is high, but his ceiling is not really high. He is a low-risk pick.

At his best he looks like a poor man's Dirk, but I could see him never amounting to much also. He is a high IQ player though and a hard worker. More limited upside though.

I hope we can get Trey Lyles or Kevon Looney at this point. If not them, Myles Turner or Bobby Portis if he decides to come out, but Turner especially is extremely raw. All of those guys are pretty raw and would take time like Goodwin....probably not get major time until year 3 or end of year 2.

I don't think we should be taking any long-term projects in this draft. They seldom eventually pan out and this Suns team hasn't shown any exceptional ability in developing them. Take a player that can contribute now, or trade out.

Few players are going to contribute (enough to make a difference in something like making the playoffs) immediately, at least not on a team playing at a 500 level or above, if you are not getting a superstar or at least a very high pick. I think Warren is a little different because he is so fluid offensively and has a natural gift for what to do and where to be. He is just a player.

But nobody in this entire draft would be immediately better than our top 8 or 9 rotation guys. Probably Okafor would be better offensively than Len, and Towns possibly better than Len, but that's about it, unless Hezonja or Porzingis are better than a couple of our guys, but that is highly doubtful.

[kennydorglas]

Harrell and Rozier will declare too.

I dont like Harrell that much, but he'll be an option if people start to see how good Myles Turner is

[Ryu]

Myles Turner is a no-brainer at 13th. Somebody here rightfully said a rookie won`t get much playing time either way next season so just take a player with huge upside like Turner.

[kennydorglas]

Myles Turner is a no-brainer at 13th. Somebody here rightfully said a rookie won`t get much playing time either way next season so just take a player with huge upside like Turner.

Yeah, I think he'll go higher
He's so good (72% at rim 43% mid 84% FT 16.7 TRB% 12.3 BLK%), I cant see that type of player waiting until our choice.

[bwgood77]

Myles Turner is a no-brainer at 13th. Somebody here rightfully said a rookie won`t get much playing time either way next season so just take a player with huge upside like Turner.

Yeah, I think he'll go higher
He's so good (72% at rim 43% mid 84% FT 16.7 TRB% 12.3 BLK%), I cant see that type of player waiting until our choice.

It will be interesting to see how well he does in workouts. I was surprised how little playing time he got in Texas this year. I've had some discussion about him in the draft forum. I posed the question about why is Towns projected to be SO much better because their #s are identical this year. I wasn't trying to say Turner will be anywhere near as good, but I was interested to see what people had to say. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1378610#start_here

[Mulhollanddrive]

Turner reminds me of a Cody Zeller type, solid but with no standout factor.

I'd rather someone like Christian Wood, reminds me of Sullinger, has x-factor style and athleticism, has excellent numbers to support, seems to be ranked in the mid-range due to downside concerns, but has higher ceiling than a safer option.