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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#781 » by TGW » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:03 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Ted once again criticizing the coaching on his blog: http://tedstake.monumentalnetwork.com/2 ... two-cities


I didn't see anything there that criticized the coach. If anything, he criticized the players for missing layups and complaining about fouls.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#782 » by Dark Faze » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:46 pm

Any negativity coming fom Ted is good thing. Usully its just patience tis patience that.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#783 » by nuposse04 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:47 pm

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LyricalRico wrote:Ted once again criticizing the coaching on his blog: http://tedstake.monumentalnetwork.com/2 ... two-cities


I didn't see anything there that criticized the coach. If anything, he criticized the players for missing layups and complaining about fouls.


He made a reference to the difference in three point attempts as a factor in a game decided by 8 points. Odds are he is upset at everyone for not being better. He needs to look himself in the mirror and ask why he allowed EG to stay on as long as he did, as well as Randy.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#784 » by LyricalRico » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:18 pm

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LyricalRico wrote:Ted once again criticizing the coaching on his blog: http://tedstake.monumentalnetwork.com/2 ... two-cities


I didn't see anything there that criticized the coach. If anything, he criticized the players for missing layups and complaining about fouls.


Yep, like nuposse said it was the comment about the game being won/lost at the 3pt line.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#785 » by hands11 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:32 pm

KD is going to be the story all next year as he is in the final year of this contract. Hard to see how Ted would see keeping Randy as his best foot forward.

I think this is more of a Mark Jackson thing. Not even sure it matter if we win a series this year.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#786 » by dckingsfan » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:44 pm

hands11 wrote:KD is going to be the story all next year as he is in the final year of this contract. Hard to see how Ted would see keeping Randy as his best foot forward.

I think this is more of a Mark Jackson thing. Not even sure it matter if we win a series this year.


Agreed, and Grunfeld won't be able to figure it out either. Ted needs a clean sweep.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#787 » by payitforward » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:02 pm

I'm sure Randy will be fired the day our season ends. But it won't make a significant difference to the franchise unless Ernie goes too.

For one thing, who's coming here to coach w/ Ernie Grunfeld picking the roster? Do you really think one of the better guys is looking to see what he can get out of Dwight Gooden, Garrett Temple, Ramon Sessions, Kevin Seraphin, Rasual Butler, a 38-year old Paul Pierce, an over the hill Nene, Martell Webster, journeymen veterans Blair/Humphries, and our 3 young guys plus Gortat?

For another, do you think Ernie is going to hire a coach who wants to take control of roster decisions? Or that Ted is going to hire the coach if he's decided Ernie is doing a good job and should stay?

If Randy becomes Ernie's scapegoat -- the "it's all his fault" guy that's driven out of town -- we're in for more of the same next year. Someone might be promoted from within after he raises his hand and says "I'll get 'em shooting 3s, I promise I will." Or a "veteran journeyman" coach might be hired from outside.

And Hands nails it when he says it'll be all about KD next year. So, Ernie will be saying "look, we got a chance to get this guy; lets not make any big changes, ok. If they fail, he'll go somewhere else for sure."

And Ted'll think a minute and reply "you're right; that's the best strategy."

edit: oh, and Kevin Durant won't be coming here anyway. Not a chance.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#788 » by Dark Faze » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:02 pm

the thing that gives me hope is that if ernies contract is actually up, it gives Ted the opportunity to have that "mutual split" that always happens with owners that play the good ol' boys game.

It doesn't really matter what we want though. We're pretty much a lock to play two games in Air Canada and its going to be some of the most embarrassed anyone involved with this franchise has ever been. The phone booth wont be sold out after that and Wittman will be gone.
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Re: Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#789 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:12 pm

payitforward wrote:I'm sure Randy will be fired the day our season ends. But it won't make a significant difference to the franchise unless Ernie goes too.

For one thing, who's coming here to coach w/ Ernie Grunfeld picking the roster? Do you really think one of the better guys is looking to see what he can get out of Dwight Gooden, Garrett Temple, Ramon Sessions, Kevin Seraphin, Rasual Butler, a 38-year old Paul Pierce, an over the hill Nene, Martell Webster, journeymen veterans Blair/Humphries, and our 3 young guys plus Gortat?

For another, do you think Ernie is going to hire a coach who wants to take control of roster decisions? Or that Ted is going to hire the coach if he's decided Ernie is doing a good job and should stay?

If Randy becomes Ernie's scapegoat -- the "it's all his fault" guy that's driven out of town -- we're in for more of the same next year. Someone might be promoted from within after he raises his hand and says "I'll get 'em shooting 3s, I promise I will." Or a "veteran journeyman" coach might be hired from outside.

And Hands nails it when he says it'll be all about KD next year. So, Ernie will be saying "look, we got a chance to get this guy; lets not make any big changes, ok. If they fail, he'll go somewhere else for sure."

And Ted'll think a minute and reply "you're right; that's the best strategy."

edit: oh, and Kevin Durant won't be coming here anyway. Not a chance.


Ted can make a very easy set of moves.

Promote Ernie

Hire Troy Weaver to be GM

Let Weaver hire the next coach

***Pay for good independent consulting services***

Make certain to utilize best practices moving forward. Scouting. Analytics. Salary cap. Team building.

There needs to be a synergy between player's skills, teammates, and coaching philosophy. The Wizards need a coach who is inclusive of veterans and youth alike. That coach needs to be a student of today's NBA, and he must be able to adapt to what works instead of being locked in to dated ideas and stale philosophy.

The single biggest problem (besides lack of talent and veteran bias) is over reliance on John Wall. He frequently pounds the ball and forces shots because he (usually rightly) doesn't trust his teammates. They are not as good as he is. The Wizards are easy to beat when the ball sticks to Wall.
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Post#790 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:13 pm

Tell Ted Leonsis to contact me. :)

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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#791 » by queridiculo » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:16 pm

Thing is, Leonsis can ill afford to have a GM come in and rock the boat following the season ticket bomb he just dropped on the Wizards fan base.

It's going to be more off the same, with Ernie calling the shots, and some retread coach being brought in to make sweet music with broken instruments.

The Wizards went from a hapless, overly loyal owner, to one that sees winning as a mere means to make more cash for himself and his investors, not the ultimate goal.

Wittman will get the blame, and the fans will get more of the same.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#792 » by fishercob » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:47 pm

payitforward wrote:I'm sure Randy will be fired the day our season ends. But it won't make a significant difference to the franchise unless Ernie goes too.

For one thing, who's coming here to coach w/ Ernie Grunfeld picking the roster? Do you really think one of the better guys is looking to see what he can get out of Dwight Gooden, Garrett Temple, Ramon Sessions, Kevin Seraphin, Rasual Butler, a 38-year old Paul Pierce, an over the hill Nene, Martell Webster, journeymen veterans Blair/Humphries, and our 3 young guys plus Gortat?

For another, do you think Ernie is going to hire a coach who wants to take control of roster decisions? Or that Ted is going to hire the coach if he's decided Ernie is doing a good job and should stay?

If Randy becomes Ernie's scapegoat -- the "it's all his fault" guy that's driven out of town -- we're in for more of the same next year. Someone might be promoted from within after he raises his hand and says "I'll get 'em shooting 3s, I promise I will." Or a "veteran journeyman" coach might be hired from outside.

And Hands nails it when he says it'll be all about KD next year. So, Ernie will be saying "look, we got a chance to get this guy; lets not make any big changes, ok. If they fail, he'll go somewhere else for sure."

And Ted'll think a minute and reply "you're right; that's the best strategy."

edit: oh, and Kevin Durant won't be coming here anyway. Not a chance.


My hope is that the Durant injuries will give Ted some pause about punting on another season for a shot to sign someone who could be damaged goods. I get that he could come back to full powers, but the possibility is there. And by the way, would there be a more Wizards -- a more DC sports -- thing than KD actually choosing to sign here only to play like 15 games before breaking his foot again and never being the same?

But I digress. KD's free agency in '16 is reason to be aggressive THIS summer. Hopefully Ted will get rid of Ernie and let someone else wheel and deal, but I understand that is a pipe dream.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#793 » by closg00 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:52 pm

queridiculo wrote:Thing is, Leonsis can ill afford to have a GM come in and rock the boat following the season ticket bomb he just dropped on the Wizards fan base.

It's going to be more off the same, with Ernie calling the shots, and some retread coach being brought in to make sweet music with broken instruments.

The Wizards went from a hapless, overly loyal owner, to one that sees winning as a mere means to make more cash for himself and his investors, not the ultimate goal.

Wittman will get the blame, and the fans will get more of the same.


SIG!! :nod:
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#794 » by hands11 » Wed Apr 1, 2015 12:52 am

payitforward wrote:I'm sure Randy will be fired the day our season ends. But it won't make a significant difference to the franchise unless Ernie goes too.

For one thing, who's coming here to coach w/ Ernie Grunfeld picking the roster? Do you really think one of the better guys is looking to see what he can get out of Dwight Gooden, Garrett Temple, Ramon Sessions, Kevin Seraphin, Rasual Butler, a 38-year old Paul Pierce, an over the hill Nene, Martell Webster, journeymen veterans Blair/Humphries, and our 3 young guys plus Gortat?

For another, do you think Ernie is going to hire a coach who wants to take control of roster decisions? Or that Ted is going to hire the coach if he's decided Ernie is doing a good job and should stay?

If Randy becomes Ernie's scapegoat -- the "it's all his fault" guy that's driven out of town -- we're in for more of the same next year. Someone might be promoted from within after he raises his hand and says "I'll get 'em shooting 3s, I promise I will." Or a "veteran journeyman" coach might be hired from outside.

And Hands nails it when he says it'll be all about KD next year. So, Ernie will be saying "look, we got a chance to get this guy; lets not make any big changes, ok. If they fail, he'll go somewhere else for sure."

And Ted'll think a minute and reply "you're right; that's the best strategy."

edit: oh, and Kevin Durant won't be coming here anyway. Not a chance.


Well as I said the EG thread. I'm not at all convinced Ted brings EG back as GM. He wrote the contract to end at this time for a reason. So he could evaluate and change if he wanted.

Now Randy for two years with option ? Its what I expected but it wasn't ideal knowing this would be the KD year. One year with options on year 2 and 3 would be been much better. Not sure who's call that was but if it was EGs, then Ted has to basically pay Randy 6M to coach one year and wouldn't be happy about that. Maybe that was a calculated risk. Maybe that goes to selling the 2nd for 3M.

Dray is done being paid this year. The franchise is in a good position. Could be better but is way better then it was. They have Wall, Beal, Otto and Gortat, picks and cap room in 2016. It would be a good gig for any GM to come to now.

Ted has options and he scheduled it this way. EG changes jobs or moves on. Hell, maybe he even moving into small share ownership. Lots of things to do running a franchise. Or he ride off. He is 60.
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Post#795 » by hands11 » Wed Apr 1, 2015 12:54 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Tell Ted Leonsis to contact me. :)

Ccjknowshoops@gmail.com


For ? You hooking him up with some HI girls ?
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#796 » by hands11 » Wed Apr 1, 2015 1:37 am

TGW wrote:Listening to the Junkies this morning, and they actually made a good point.

Ted isn't eating contracts--his past dealings have shown that he believes in second and third chances, and he NEVER eats a contract.


Except that isn't close to true. Or in other words. Its a straight up lie.
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Post#797 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Apr 1, 2015 1:40 am

hands11 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Tell Ted Leonsis to contact me. :)

Ccjknowshoops@gmail.com


For ? You hooking him up with some HI girls ?


He's a billionaire. Dude can hook up with Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian, and EVERY Hawaiian girl I know save maybe a couple of the old school, faithful, married women.

Ted doesn't freaking need my help.

hands, I doubt you respect what I really know for what I think I'm worth, (just by your "For ?")

(Dont' get sensitive, I think you're kidding. PM me if you have any concerns)

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The way I see it I no longer care if I ever hear directly from anyone in the Wizards organization. If I do, great. I think I can help.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#798 » by hands11 » Wed Apr 1, 2015 1:55 am

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1155475&start=300#start_here

Here we are a year later. Some Randy issues as last regular session.

Here is what I fear. Come playoffs last year, Randy started coaching against CHI totally different. It was the perfect match up for him. And he started calling time outs. He rightfully identified how to shut them down. He had "strategy" and focused in on DJ which was pretty much all CHI had for points. In all fairness. Randy dare I say, did a really good job coaching in that series. And that was really confusing. It was like, where the hell was that dude all year.

What if he does it again ? YIKES

I think with a S4 and similar smart Randy playoff coaching as last year (CHI), we can beat TOR

I just pray Ted has already seen enough and this year, what we do in the playoffs doesn't matter.

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Post#799 » by hands11 » Wed Apr 1, 2015 2:04 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
hands11 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Tell Ted Leonsis to contact me. :)

Ccjknowshoops@gmail.com


For ? You hooking him up with some HI girls ?


He's a billionaire. Dude can hook up with Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian, and EVERY Hawaiian girl I know save maybe a couple of the old school, faithful, married women.

Ted doesn't freaking need my help.

hands, I doubt you respect what I really know for what I think I'm worth, (just by your "For ?")

(Dont' get sensitive, I think you're kidding. PM me if you have any concerns)

hands, God gave me something nobody and no one in the world can take from me. He also has given me a unique assignment.

The way I see it I no longer care if I ever hear directly from anyone in the Wizards organization. If I do, great. I think I can help.


Glad you took that in fun CCJ. And no, I don't have any concerns.

But I know what you mean. Maybe you don't appreciate that. God has given me that gift. Its something I have had since a very young age. Sometimes I wish I could turn off sometimes to be honest with you. But with age has come some wisdom and a better filter. And patience with people.
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Re: Official Randy Wittman Thread - Eat the Contract Ted 

Post#800 » by TGW » Wed Apr 1, 2015 3:04 am

CCJ—Ted definitely needs your help. If he thought resigning the 26th ranked front office in the league (according to ESPN) was a good move, then he could use your help, my help...hell even my 9 year old nephew's help. People gave Bruce Allen a hard time for saying the Skins were "winning off the field"....well Ted basically is saying the same thing because we know for sure none of the teams he's owned have come close to winning anything worth a damn.
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