2015 Free Agency thread

[BlackOutBuzz]

Middleton is restricted.

Sorry to ask a dumb question, but how does the QO relate to RFA? Do teams often just make artificially low QOs to get RFA status?

QOs are set from the moment a player signs his rookie deal and aren't negotiable. Because Middleton makes so little, his QO is the minimum + $200k, so $1,181,348.

[yosemiteben]

Middleton is restricted.

Sorry to ask a dumb question, but how does the QO relate to RFA? Do teams often just make artificially low QOs to get RFA status?

QOs are set from the moment a player signs his rookie deal and aren't negotiable. Because Middleton makes so little, his QO is the minimum + $200k, so $1,181,348.

Ah, didn't realize that. For some reason I thought a QO was like the top threshold of the RFA offered by a team such that if another team offered more than that then the current team would lose the ability to match.

I like to invent CBA rules as I go along apparently...

[dmutombo321]

Posted this in another 2015 FA thread from earlier this year that mustve gotten buried. I'll bump it and re-post since I think it is an even more valid suggestion now than it was then based on the productive minute Ajinca has continued to log. Plus, I think he would work great next to Vonleh if Clifford brushes off the moth balls and finally gives him some minutes next year:



Couldnt find the other FA thread from last year so I assume its buried. 2015 Free agency is still a few months away and also, unless Jefferson and/or Hendo opt out or they dump salary in a trade after the season, Charlotte isnt going to have a tremendous amount of $ with which to play.

With this in mind, I figure it makes sense to have a thread devoted to under the radar guys who may be able to be signed relatively cheap as value additions this off-season.

To start out, I cant believe I'm actually suggesting this, but someone who has caught my eye lately is none other than Alexis Ajinca. I just noticed Lamar also remarked about Ajinca's recent play on the around the NBA thread.

During these past 5 games with Anthony Davis out, Ajinca has been getting regular minutes and during this span has averaged 14.6pts, 7.8 rebounds and 1.6 blocks in 23mpg while shooting 69% from the field and 81% from the charity stripe. Also had a couple other good games earlier this year filling in for Davis when he previously missed time. Ajinca still picks up fouls at an inordinate rate but has finally put on some weight and appears to be around 250 now. He's still only 26 and would be worth a look if he can be signed reasonably. Could provide some of the shot blocking and mobile pick and role defense we're missing while still being a post scoring threat.

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[Liver_Pooty]

If Al opts out Id put complete focus on Danny Green if I am Cho. Great defender who shoots 41% from 3 off of 6 attempts a game. I'd give him big money.

[JDR720]

1- shooters
2- shooters that can shoot threes
3- shooters that can shoot threes and not suck at everything else

[Liver_Pooty]

1- shooters
2- shooters that can shoot threes
3- shooters that can shoot threes and not suck at everything else

A pure shooter who can play defense. Thats all I want. Give said player whatever amount of money they want. I don't even care if they can dribble a damn basketball.

[JDR720]

\accoring to the 2015-2016 Projected Cap Space thread on the T&T board we have a max of $18,747,741 in cap, dont know what we could do with that. If Al and Gerald opt in, we are screwed for cap space.

[MasterIchiro]

\accoring to the 2015-2016 Projected Cap Space thread on the T&T board we have a max of $18,747,741 in cap, dont know what we could do with that. If Al and Gerald opt in, we are screwed for cap space.

And it should be clear to everyone, fan or foe of Cho or Clifford that this horrific possibility is 100% on Cho not Cliff.

[BeesWax]

\accoring to the 2015-2016 Projected Cap Space thread on the T&T board we have a max of $18,747,741 in cap, dont know what we could do with that. If Al and Gerald opt in, we are screwed for cap space.

I hope Al opts out and same for Henderson. If they don't I do not know how much I will mind though. I am not sure I want to go into another FA with money that Cho tries to spend to give Clifford what he asks for. He cannot use the pieces he gets anyway. I would almost rather keep the money and let Cho use it the next year with a new coach to build a roster then.

[yosemiteben]

\accoring to the 2015-2016 Projected Cap Space thread on the T&T board we have a max of $18,747,741 in cap, dont know what we could do with that. If Al and Gerald opt in, we are screwed for cap space.

And it should be clear to everyone, fan or foe of Cho or Clifford that this horrific possibility is 100% on Cho not Cliff.

And then we'll have like $50M in space the next year.

[tondi123]

Unfortunately so will half the league which will leave us where? I'm not sure having a ton of cap space will really matter if we are competing with a dozen or more other teams with an equal amount. That sounds like a recipe for a classic overpay of non impact players to me.

[BeesWax]

If Al opts out Id put complete focus on Danny Green if I am Cho. Great defender who shoots 41% from 3 off of 6 attempts a game. I'd give him big money.

Got a question for you.

Lets say we win the off-season lottery and not just the draft lottery. By this I mean Al and Henderson both opt out and we win the 1st pick. How highly do you value Towns/Okafor there?

My question is would you trade it for an established player or drop back a few picks for another young asset? I was thinking what happens if we get this lucky and something like Cousins blowing up in Sacramento happens. Would you trade #1, Zeller and a future first for Cousins?

I could see things going poorly there and them trying to come out of it with his replacement. Let them work with Towns/Okafor and then use their 4th or 5th pick on Winslow or somebody. I think if the chance arose I would have to take him and gamble that being with MKG and a new team could make him happy.

[yosemiteben]

Unfortunately so will half the league which will leave us where? I'm not sure having a ton of cap space will really matter if we are competing with a dozen or more other teams with an equal amount. That sounds like a recipe for a classic overpay of non impact players to me.

Fair point, but lots of teams have cash this offseason too. The point is that acting like Cho has made bad financial decisions is a bit of an exaggeration.

[BobsBuddy]

It's time we blow this team up as this season has been a failure both in who we drafted and the free agents we added. I assume Clifford has a 3 year contract so, even if we keep him and the current staff , major player changes need to be
made and the way we play needs to be twanged. Trades coupled with selections during the upcoming draft is the only way we are going to get this done because we do not have the money under the cap to attract free agents.
1. Trade Al to the western conference for another 1st round pick in the 2015 draft ie....... LAC for Hawes fillers, and 25th pick
2. Let Hendo (PO), BIZ (RFA), and MAX (UFA) walk. USE money to resign MO.
3. Draft KAMINSKY or TURNER both Centers at 10-12...LUCAS at 25.....
4. Trade Lance to NYK to move up from 39 to 31 and select Justin Anderson

[Flip Murray]

I'm afraid Al ain't gonna opt out after this turd of a year. god i hope he does

[JDR720]

I think its 50/50 whether Al opts in or not, the cap goes up after next season (right?) so he might opt in and try to get another All-NBA season to get a big payday when the cap goes up. if he opts out i think that means he knows he is going downhill and wants to get a long term deal now and not risk hurting his value more.

[Flip Murray]

I think its 50/50 whether Al opts in or not, the cap goes up after next season (right?) so he might opt in and try to get another All-NBA season to get a big payday when the cap goes up. if he opts out i think that means he knows he is going downhill and wants to get a long term deal now and not risk hurting his value more.

didn't even think about the salary cap rising factor

[yosemiteben]

The salary cap rising factor really is only a major factor if (a) there aren't teams with cap space now or (b) he wants a max deal.

The Knicks only have $35M in committed contracts next year. LA has $47M. Hell SAS only has $34M, they're going to have some serious decisions to make this offseason. ORL has $36M. PHO has $43M. MEM has $50M and who knows if Gasol sticks around. TOR has $48M. DAL has $44M.

The issue is not going to be if there are enough teams with cap space available to sign him. The issue is going to be how teams gauge his value. Teams may have to dole out more cash to lock in guys past next year because all the FAs are going to want to ride the cap space increase gravy train.

[Liver_Pooty]

If Al opts out Id put complete focus on Danny Green if I am Cho. Great defender who shoots 41% from 3 off of 6 attempts a game. I'd give him big money.

Got a question for you.

Lets say we win the off-season lottery and not just the draft lottery. By this I mean Al and Henderson both opt out and we win the 1st pick. How highly do you value Towns/Okafor there?

My question is would you trade it for an established player or drop back a few picks for another young asset? I was thinking what happens if we get this lucky and something like Cousins blowing up in Sacramento happens. Would you trade #1, Zeller and a future first for Cousins?

I could see things going poorly there and them trying to come out of it with his replacement. Let them work with Towns/Okafor and then use their 4th or 5th pick on Winslow or somebody. I think if the chance arose I would have to take him and gamble that being with MKG and a new team could make him happy.

Geez. I have no idea what I'd want to do to be honest.

[MasterIchiro]

I want Green like I wanted Hayward last year. He will be overpaid. So what.