FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[mpharris36]

If we draft Okafor, I really want to trade for Taj Gibson. If we draft Towns, Monroe wouldn't be a bad option.

Once we know what draft pick we have, Phil will have alot more options.
If you he knows its his choice between Okafor and Towns, he can scour the trade market to find a complimentary bigman to match them.

correct the draft pick should determine FA, not the other way around.

[BowlRips]

If we draft Okafor, I really want to trade for Taj Gibson. If we draft Towns, Monroe wouldn't be a bad option.

Once we know what draft pick we have, Phil will have alot more options.
If you he knows its his choice between Okafor and Towns, he can scour the trade market to find a complimentary bigman to match them.

correct the draft pick should determine FA, not the other way around.

it could be collective.
I know in recent years, FA has been a **** and players have been waiting to sign.
But if Phil gets the OK from Monroes agent that hell accept our 4-60 million offer, or if David Lee can be had for peanuts, does that incline you to take Towns.
If you see Chicago looking to trade Taj Gibson and he's attainable, does that incline you to take Okafor.

[sportscrazy]

The off-season I see if we land the first overall draft pick:

Draft Karl-Anthony Towns
Re-sign Cole Aldrich, Andrea Bargnani and Alexey Shved (using cap space and cap MLE)
Sign Greg Monroe, Arron Afflalo and Andrew Bynum

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Andrew Bynum/Cole Aldrich
PF-Greg Monroe/Andrea Bargnani
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
SG-Arron Afflalo/Tim Hardaway Jr.
PG-Alexey Shved/Jose Calderon/Langston Galloway

That team has solid depth, a good starting five and should be able to compete in the East if 'Melo is what we paid him to be.

Im all for getting Monore, but your only other signing is Aaron Afflao?
Gonna need more than that

Obviously if we can sell Marc Gasol or LaMarcus Aldridge on NY, we do that, but considering pretty much every RFA is on a team that can afford to overpay them rather than lose them for nothing and Danny Green plays in Texas where we would have to overpay twice (once to go over what the Spurs offer since he would probably prefer to re-sign there if the money is even and twice to beat the Texas to New York tax conversion), then who would you suggest we get instead of Afflalo?

[BowlRips]

The off-season I see if we land the first overall draft pick:

Draft Karl-Anthony Towns
Re-sign Cole Aldrich, Andrea Bargnani and Alexey Shved (using cap space and cap MLE)
Sign Greg Monroe, Arron Afflalo and Andrew Bynum

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Andrew Bynum/Cole Aldrich
PF-Greg Monroe/Andrea Bargnani
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
SG-Arron Afflalo/Tim Hardaway Jr.
PG-Alexey Shved/Jose Calderon/Langston Galloway

That team has solid depth, a good starting five and should be able to compete in the East if 'Melo is what we paid him to be.

Im all for getting Monore, but your only other signing is Aaron Afflao?
Gonna need more than that

Obviously if we can sell Marc Gasol or LaMarcus Aldridge on NY, we do that, but considering pretty much every RFA is on a team that can afford to overpay them rather than lose them for nothing and Danny Green plays in Texas where we would have to overpay twice (once to go over what the Spurs offer since he would probably prefer to re-sign there if the money is even and twice to beat the Texas to New York tax conversion), then who would you suggest we get instead of Afflalo?

Why instead? Ill take Affalo
But phil please dont blow this precious cap space that you sold us on for the past 18 months on resiging Shved, Bargnani and Cole Adrich.

[sportscrazy]

The off-season I see if we land the first overall draft pick:

Draft Karl-Anthony Towns
Re-sign Cole Aldrich, Andrea Bargnani and Alexey Shved (using cap space and cap MLE)
Sign Greg Monroe, Arron Afflalo and Andrew Bynum

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Andrew Bynum/Cole Aldrich
PF-Greg Monroe/Andrea Bargnani
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
SG-Arron Afflalo/Tim Hardaway Jr.
PG-Alexey Shved/Jose Calderon/Langston Galloway

That team has solid depth, a good starting five and should be able to compete in the East if 'Melo is what we paid him to be.

I wouldn't mind that offseason (it would be solid assuming we weren't in play for any of the big FA or RFA) but I would prefer to sign Danny Green over Afflalo.

I would much rather sign Green myself, but considering San Antonio has a system he knows he fits in, has a recent history of being a contender and would form one of the best young defensive wing duo's with Kawhi Leonard, we would have to top what the Spurs are offering since I think if the money is even he re-signs with San Antonio. Plus we have to overpay the difference in the Texas to NY tax conversion on top of matching the Spurs offer for him to consider leaving for NY. I'm not saying it won't happen or can't happen, I just think the obstacles against signing Green are far higher than the obstacles we would face when trying to sign Afflalo and would probably come cheaper.

[mpharris36]

it could be collective.
I know in recent years, FA has been a **** and players have been waiting to sign.
But if Phil gets the OK from Monroes agent that hell accept our 4-60 million offer, or if David Lee can be had for peanuts, does that incline you to take Towns.
If you see Chicago looking to trade Taj Gibson and he's attainable, does that incline you to take Okafor.

no

if Phil works out both players and interviews both players and his scouts come to the agreement that Towns or Okafor will be the better player.

You make your selection based on evaluations. You do not base the pick on who will be available. The pick is too important. You select the best player and then you go from there.

[sportscrazy]

Im all for getting Monore, but your only other signing is Aaron Afflao?
Gonna need more than that

Obviously if we can sell Marc Gasol or LaMarcus Aldridge on NY, we do that, but considering pretty much every RFA is on a team that can afford to overpay them rather than lose them for nothing and Danny Green plays in Texas where we would have to overpay twice (once to go over what the Spurs offer since he would probably prefer to re-sign there if the money is even and twice to beat the Texas to New York tax conversion), then who would you suggest we get instead of Afflalo?

Why instead? Ill take Affalo
But phil please dont blow this precious cap space that you sold us on for the past 18 months on resiging Shved, Bargnani and Cole Adrich.

Keeping in mind that the open market always determines a higher value than expected for free agents AND the cap raise in 2016 means people will spend more than usual even:

Greg Monroe is going to come at a starting salary around $13.5-14 Million, let's go low and say $13.5 Million.
Arron Afflalo will likely be around a starting salary of $9-10 Million, let's go low and say $9 Million.

Who are you signing for that additional $3.5 Million of remaining cap space that's better than Shved?

Cole Aldrich re-signs for the minimum which doesn't affect our cap space and I have Bargnani as a bench big to fill out the roster with a stretch big man for our around $2.5 Million cap MLE.

I don't really see many better options out there for us with the cap MLE and $3.5 Million in cap space after signing Monroe and Afflalo.

[sportscrazy]

Obviously if we can sell Marc Gasol or LaMarcus Aldridge on NY, we do that, but considering pretty much every RFA is on a team that can afford to overpay them rather than lose them for nothing and Danny Green plays in Texas where we would have to overpay twice (once to go over what the Spurs offer since he would probably prefer to re-sign there if the money is even and twice to beat the Texas to New York tax conversion), then who would you suggest we get instead of Afflalo?

Why instead? Ill take Affalo
But phil please dont blow this precious cap space that you sold us on for the past 18 months on resiging Shved, Bargnani and Cole Adrich.

Keeping in mind that the open market always determines a higher value than expected for free agents AND the cap raise in 2016 means people will spend more than usual even:

Greg Monroe is going to come at a starting salary around $13.5-14 Million, let's go low and say $13.5 Million.
Arron Afflalo will likely be around a starting salary of $9-10 Million, let's go low and say $9 Million.

Who are you signing for that additional $3.5 Million of remaining cap space that's better than Shved?

Cole Aldrich re-signs for the minimum which doesn't affect our cap space and I have Bargnani as a bench big to fill out the roster with a stretch big man for our around $2.5 Million cap MLE.

I don't really see many better options out there for us with the cap MLE and $3.5 Million in cap space after signing Monroe and Afflalo.

Unless we can find a team to take Calderon if we send THJ with him for their pain. Then we have around $11 Million left and only Galloway and Afflalo as our guards.

C-Karl-Anthony Towns
PF-Greg Monroe
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
SG-Arron Afflalo
PG-Langston Galloway

How do you fill out that roster with $11 Million?

[sportscrazy]

Let's say Shved takes the cap MLE, Rondo takes the $11 Million and vets like Aldrich, Bynum, Brand and Terry all take the minimum.

Which team do Knicks fans prefer?

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Andrew Bynum/Cole Aldrich
PF-Greg Monroe/Elton Brand
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
SG-Arron Afflalo/Jason Terry
PG-Rajon Rondo/Alexey Shved/Langston Galloway

-OR-

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Andrew Bynum/Cole Aldrich
PF-Greg Monroe/Andrea Bargnani
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
SG-Arron Afflalo/Tim Hardaway Jr.
PG-Alexey Shved/Jose Calderon/Langston Galloway

Just out of those two only options, which do you prefer?

[NevaGivinKnixUp]

my fantasy has been that we move Calderon and THjr in a trade that brings us no salary and we convince LMA and Gasol to both come on 1 year deals

combined with Mudiay or Russell

Or we could go for Towns and Horford and Washington Heights would go BESERK!!!

Yeah, I've got a guey hand behind that one.

[nykballa2k4]

Let's say Shved takes the cap MLE, Rondo takes the $11 Million and vets like Aldrich, Bynum, Brand and Terry all take the minimum.

Which team do Knicks fans prefer?

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Andrew Bynum/Cole Aldrich
PF-Greg Monroe/Elton Brand
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
SG-Arron Afflalo/Jason Terry
PG-Rajon Rondo/Alexey Shved/Langston Galloway

-OR-

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Andrew Bynum/Cole Aldrich
PF-Greg Monroe/Andrea Bargnani
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
SG-Arron Afflalo/Tim Hardaway Jr.
PG-Alexey Shved/Jose Calderon/Langston Galloway

Just out of those two only options, which do you prefer?

the second one is better. Reality is we don't really want Monroe either though. He won't be bad, but again I would rather have:

Hibbert/Bynum/Cole
Towns/Amundson/Smith
Melo/Thanisis/Wear
Eric Gordon/Hardaway/Early
Galloway/Shved/Larkin

[NevaGivinKnixUp]

Danny Green for 12M+
Iman Shumpert for 5M

You want to spend our whole cap on Green?

Koufos
Towns
Melo
Green
Calderon

or
Asik
Towns
Melo
Shumpert
Calderon

Smh, Shump is a back up, not a starter. Green will likely be less then 12m more like 9 to 10 million. Rather Robin over Asik or Koufos

For the sake of not getting my hopes up for top 2 (regardless of our chances) I have us drafting Russell in this scenario and planning for worse case. (With exception of moving Jose and Tim)

Russell/Lang/Shved
Green/Russell/Lang
Carroll/Early/Thanasis
Melo/Amir/Amundsen
Robin/Aldrich

I think every FA is about to get PAID in all caps. No fear of repeater tax, cap going up etc. Green won't be paid by the Spurs, but someone is going to give him a nice fat wallet.

I don't see him getting 12 mil and I would not pay him 12 to come here either. A million per point he's averaging, no thanks! Albeit he's darn near an elite defender - love his anticipation, but would rather save for 2016 or shop around.

[BRIGGS]

Free Agency


Enes Kanter C/PF 4 years 64mm frontloaded 6-11 260

Will Barton SG 3 years 12mm(4mm per match it or leave it) 6-6 200

Alex Shveyd 3 years 15mm


Rest opportunistic. Im not spending big $ on a SG. I like Barton @ 5mm. Hes very athletic and hes a 5 tool player with a LOT of upside. I dont want to spend big money on a SG yet.

Kanter is simply the best post player in free agency. Hes been the number #2 rebounder in the entire NBA per minute since the trade is close to avg 20 points on nearly 60% shooting and has showed signs for both passing ability and blocking shots. All at the ripe old age of 22.

[melo mvp 15]

If we draft Okafor, I really want to trade for Taj Gibson. If we draft Towns, Monroe wouldn't be a bad option.

Once we know what draft pick we have, Phil will have alot more options.
If you he knows its his choice between Okafor and Towns, he can scour the trade market to find a complimentary bigman to match them.

correct the draft pick should determine FA, not the other way around.

Well the draft occurs before free agency and front offices don't agree with free agents before players before free agency. There's too much to risk, plus 99% of agents want to see all the offers and build up competition.

Hell, even if it wasn't- the draft pick should dictate free agency because it's not as tricky. I mean if we have the first pick, we can choose who ever we think is best. In free agency, you need to have the player want to come. Plus with the draft you're getting a very young guy, so ideally he's on your team for a while and has higher value (because of the potential)- most of the free agents are older... even the youngest FAs are older than the oldest players in the draft. And many other reasons.

[melo mvp 15]

Towns, Monroe, and Afflalo would be an A+ off-season to me, no doubt.

[Riot Randolph]

Free Agency


Enes Kanter C/PF 4 years 64mm frontloaded 6-11 260

Will Barton SG 3 years 12mm(4mm per match it or leave it) 6-6 200

Alex Shveyd 3 years 15mm


Rest opportunistic. Im not spending big $ on a SG. I like Barton @ 5mm. Hes very athletic and hes a 5 tool player with a LOT of upside. I dont want to spend big money on a SG yet.

Kanter is simply the best post player in free agency. Hes been the number #2 rebounder in the entire NBA per minute since the trade is close to avg 20 points on nearly 60% shooting and has showed signs for both passing ability and blocking shots. All at the ripe old age of 22.

that defense doe...

[Jeff Van Gully]

Or we could go for Towns and Horford and Washington Heights would go BESERK!!!

Yeah, I've got a guey hand behind that one.

diaaaaaaaaablo, loco!

it'd be jamon, como asi:



mangu con salami frito for everyone!

[Jeff Van Gully]

Smh, Shump is a back up, not a starter. Green will likely be less then 12m more like 9 to 10 million. Rather Robin over Asik or Koufos

For the sake of not getting my hopes up for top 2 (regardless of our chances) I have us drafting Russell in this scenario and planning for worse case. (With exception of moving Jose and Tim)

Russell/Lang/Shved
Green/Russell/Lang
Carroll/Early/Thanasis
Melo/Amir/Amundsen
Robin/Aldrich

I think every FA is about to get PAID in all caps. No fear of repeater tax, cap going up etc. Green won't be paid by the Spurs, but someone is going to give him a nice fat wallet.

I don't see him getting 12 mil and I would not pay him 12 to come here either. A million per point he's averaging, no thanks! Albeit he's darn near an elite defender - love his anticipation, but would rather save for 2016 or shop around.

i agree that 12M is too much for danny green, but not by a lot. i'd be willing to go 10M on him. forget the points. he does EVERYTHING. steals, blocks, swarms the perimeter, knocks down the trey, can slash if asked. he has become a fine ball player in SA and would bring in examples of the kind of game and culture we're trying to establish.

the funny thing is he almost washed out of the league. i am a UNC fan as well as my beloved johnnies. i watched danny green go from the best player on the team to some kind of mental breakdown where he barely made the league. watched him almost wash out as well. he brought it all back in SA. and it would be awesome to reap the benefits bringing him home.

he's not just a two-way player. he is an all-in-one. he's being slept on. someone might be looking to cash him out this offseason.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Let's say Shved takes the cap MLE, Rondo takes the $11 Million and vets like Aldrich, Bynum, Brand and Terry all take the minimum.

Which team do Knicks fans prefer?

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Andrew Bynum/Cole Aldrich
PF-Greg Monroe/Elton Brand
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
SG-Arron Afflalo/Jason Terry
PG-Rajon Rondo/Alexey Shved/Langston Galloway

-OR-

C-Karl-Anthony Towns/Andrew Bynum/Cole Aldrich
PF-Greg Monroe/Andrea Bargnani
SF-Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
SG-Arron Afflalo/Tim Hardaway Jr.
PG-Alexey Shved/Jose Calderon/Langston Galloway

Just out of those two only options, which do you prefer?

the second one is better. Reality is we don't really want Monroe either though. He won't be bad, but again I would rather have:

Hibbert/Bynum/Cole
Towns/Amundson/Smith
Melo/Thanisis/Wear
Eric Gordon/Hardaway/Early
Galloway/Shved/Larkin

is this a walk year for eric gordon? he could be a slick cheap pickup. i'm not overpaying for that gimp though. he'd be a handy 6th man and spot starter. he's too unhealthy to depend on. but he is really leading that NO team. if the price is right, i'd def bring him on. that's another weapon who could finally be used properly as a knick.

[navyblue]

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is this a walk year for eric gordon? he could be a slick cheap pickup. i'm not overpaying for that gimp though. he'd be a handy 6th man and spot starter. he's too unhealthy to depend on. but he is really leading that NO team. if the price is right, i'd def bring him on. that's another weapon who could finally be used properly as a knick.

eric gordon has a playeroption worth apx 16mil, no way is he opting out of that contract.