NBA ChoK16 - the Rich Cho Thread

[Elden Payton]

If you're not harebrained, and have a informative answer, you wouldn't be offended by the way I started the question. All of my back-and-forth converses on here are in good faith. It's the condescending ones that make having a logical debate far from worthwhile, and that's why I did that to get them out of the way from the gate. I see 'jdm3' must feel like he fit into that category. I was always told that "if a shot hit you then it sure wasn't meant to miss you"

This whole post is "harebrained"

The only one being condescending is you.

Shut up...

What substance in this post, my mind is blown by the amazing intellect behind it all.

[BeesWax]

This whole post is "harebrained"

The only one being condescending is you.

Shut up...

What substance in this post, my mind is blown by the amazing intellect behind it all.

Pretty normal quality for his work though.

[Elden Payton]

Shut up...

What substance in this post, my mind is blown by the amazing intellect behind it all.

Pretty normal quality for his work though.

The word quality doesn't compute in regards to "his work"

Childish is the word that more comes to mind.

[BeesWax]

What substance in this post, my mind is blown by the amazing intellect behind it all.

Pretty normal quality for his work though.

The word quality doesn't compute in regards to "his work"

Childish is the word that more comes to mind.

To be fair I do disagree with your stance on Kemba. I just think a person should make a good faith attempt at debate before insulting anyone who might possibly disagree with him.

Cho has worked to find pieces to make us a better team. Hayward would have been a good piece and he tried but other than that there have not been great options to be had. Kemba is a solid PG and can be part of a winning team but he needs the correct pieces around him. I think more than that he needs the correct coach. Clifford came very highly recommended and a lot of people thought he was going to be good. I am starting to think he is one of those guys who is a great assistant but cannot function as a head coach. Sort of like Norv Turner in the NFL. Can't fault a GM for trying a guy out that is a great assistant. You never know if they are going to pan out until they are given a shot.

[Elden Payton]

Pretty normal quality for his work though.

The word quality doesn't compute in regards to "his work"

Childish is the word that more comes to mind.

To be fair I do disagree with your stance on Kemba. I just think a person should make a good faith attempt at debate before insulting anyone who might possibly disagree with him.

Cho has worked to find pieces to make us a better team. Hayward would have been a good piece and he tried but other than that there have not been great options to be had. Kemba is a solid PG and can be part of a winning team but he needs the correct pieces around him. I think more than that he needs the correct coach. Clifford came very highly recommended and a lot of people thought he was going to be good. I am starting to think he is one of those guys who is a great assistant but cannot function as a head coach. Sort of like Norv Turner in the NFL. Can't fault a GM for trying a guy out that is a great assistant. You never know if they are going to pan out until they are given a shot.

I don't mind if people disagree, that's what forums are about!

Good faith is a good place to start discussions on this board, insulting people in assumption of what people expect others response to be is childish imo.

[BeesWax]

The word quality doesn't compute in regards to "his work"

Childish is the word that more comes to mind.

To be fair I do disagree with your stance on Kemba. I just think a person should make a good faith attempt at debate before insulting anyone who might possibly disagree with him.

Cho has worked to find pieces to make us a better team. Hayward would have been a good piece and he tried but other than that there have not been great options to be had. Kemba is a solid PG and can be part of a winning team but he needs the correct pieces around him. I think more than that he needs the correct coach. Clifford came very highly recommended and a lot of people thought he was going to be good. I am starting to think he is one of those guys who is a great assistant but cannot function as a head coach. Sort of like Norv Turner in the NFL. Can't fault a GM for trying a guy out that is a great assistant. You never know if they are going to pan out until they are given a shot.

I don't mind if people disagree, that's what forums are about!

Good faith is a good place to start discussions on this board, insulting people in assumption of what people expect others response to be is childish imo.

Agreed.

[catch20two]

The word quality doesn't compute in regards to "his work"

Childish is the word that more comes to mind.

To be fair I do disagree with your stance on Kemba. I just think a person should make a good faith attempt at debate before insulting anyone who might possibly disagree with him.

Cho has worked to find pieces to make us a better team. Hayward would have been a good piece and he tried but other than that there have not been great options to be had. Kemba is a solid PG and can be part of a winning team but he needs the correct pieces around him. I think more than that he needs the correct coach. Clifford came very highly recommended and a lot of people thought he was going to be good. I am starting to think he is one of those guys who is a great assistant but cannot function as a head coach. Sort of like Norv Turner in the NFL. Can't fault a GM for trying a guy out that is a great assistant. You never know if they are going to pan out until they are given a shot.

I don't mind if people disagree, that's what forums are about!

Good faith is a good place to start discussions on this board, insulting people in assumption of what people expect others response to be is childish imo.

You did give a harebrained answer tho. Lol

[yosemiteben]

As a general principle, any time a person chooses to insult someone else's intelligence when they are arguing, that person instantly lose all credibility with me, even if I otherwise agree with the argument.

[catch20two]

As a general principle, any time a person chooses to insult someone else's intelligence when they are arguing, that person instantly lose all credibility with me, even if I otherwise agree with the argument.

He didn't insult your intelligence tho. You insulted your own intelligence by feeding into it. You took the bait instead of answering the question. You still haven't answered the question. Lol. He lured you into the foxhole.

Furthermore to stay on topic, Cho ass need to be on the hot seat. I feel sorry for Jordan. He tried to listen to the media and fallback. Now he prolly wanna fire them both but he can't because we're stuck with this mess to recycle for another year.

[yosemiteben]

That's right, I'm not engaging with that discussion, I didn't take any bait. I just said when you start out insulting people, it doesn't make it look like you actually want your questions answered and sure as hell doesn't make me interested in pursuing a discussion.

[BeesWax]

As a general principle, any time a person chooses to insult someone else's intelligence when they are arguing, that person instantly lose all credibility with me, even if I otherwise agree with the argument.

I agree. Trying to start a fight to distract from a poor thought or writing like a 3rd grade drop out kills me. Why even post if you are not going to try to make a decent debate. But I am done with this side of it.

Cho has put in good work but his biggest mistake in my opinion has been Clifford. He was worth a try due to his solid work as an assistant but it is time to move on. We need someone who is ready to sit in the head chair and take charge. I was worried about losing Price if we let Clifford go but now that he is gone I am much less attached to this coaching group.

[DY_nasty]

As a general principle, any time a person chooses to insult someone else's intelligence when they are arguing, that person instantly lose all credibility with me, even if I otherwise agree with the argument.

Yeah. It really just kills it for me. A lot of people think that their stance is just so solid that it doesn't even need to be dignified with an answer - but if its so solid, then you should be able to quickly substantiate your claims and be able to back it up versus a variety of arguments. Not argue in a vacuum, not play a narrative, not insult someone, not be conveniently intentionally obtuse, etc.

Its a discussion. If you want to hear like-minded opinions all day just go talk to yourself. I've probably learned more about PG play going back and forth with Sik, Fat, and some other guys than I ever did actually playing college ball lol.

[Liver_Pooty]

As a general principle, any time a person chooses to insult someone else's intelligence when they are arguing, that person instantly lose all credibility with me, even if I otherwise agree with the argument.

Yeah. It really just kills it for me. A lot of people think that their stance is just so solid that it doesn't even need to be dignified with an answer - but if its so solid, then you should be able to quickly substantiate your claims and be able to back it up versus a variety of arguments. Not argue in a vacuum, not play a narrative, not insult someone, not be conveniently intentionally obtuse, etc.

Its a discussion. If you want to hear like-minded opinions all day just go talk to yourself. I've probably learned more about PG play going back and forth with Sik, Fat, and some other guys than I ever did actually playing college ball lol.

I gave up on the PG discussion a couple months ago.

[Diop]

Lets get this thread back on track and talking about Cho. Petty arguments and derailing will not be tolerated. Lets keep it civil.
Charlotte moderators are pretty loose and like to let things flow, we don't like having to suspend people but will do it when necessary.

[yosemiteben]

Cho post-season presser

Cliff is normally a pretty straight shooter, but I expect Cho to be his normal non-revealing self.

[JDR720]

Spoiler:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SteveReedAP/status/589084174432088064[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SteveReedAP/status/589084499259953152[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SteveReedAP/status/589083933037334528[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SteveReedAP/status/589083037201092609[/tweet]

Spoiler:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SteveReedAP/status/589084722896117760[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/hornets/status/589085274749173761[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SteveReedAP/status/589085397361102848[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/589085966620590082[/tweet]

[yosemiteben]

There was nothing said in that presser that even a casual fan would have been surprised to hear.

[Diop]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SteveReedAP/status/589085397361102848[/tweet]
Biz's QO is around 5.5 mill, not too steep, why wouldn't you?

i cant see him signing for less

[BlackOutBuzz]

"We haven't decided whether Biz will get a QO" isn't terribly surprising but it is beyond stupid. Right after saying "we could use another big, " no less.

[JDR720]

"We haven't decided whether Biz will get a QO" isn't terribly surprising but it is beyond stupid. Right after saying "we could use another big, " no less.

how many bigs can we possibly need? need another wing player if anything.

Al,Zeller,Vonleh,Marvin,Biz?.