Pistons vs East #1 Atlanta Hawks 03.31.2015

[sc8581]

You don't get it man. Stretch 4 blah blah blah, 4 out 1 in mumble mumble mumble, max contract blah blah blah. I'm so tired of this F'ing argument I damn near wish he'd leave to never have to deal with this again.

You can mock the guys that want a stretch 4 and love the 4 out 1 in game plan all you want, but it's one of the main lineups we run and is a successful one with a guy that is a below average starter. I really don't understand your hate for the stretch 4.

I don't hate stretch 4's, I hate people's use of the term (and max contract for that matter) with absolutely zero context of what they're talking about. Any PF with a decent 15 footer gets called a stretch 4 around here when in fact, that's just a POWER FORWARD. And for the record, if given the choice, I'd rather have a Taj Gibson over some unicorn of a stretch 4 that could supposedly rebound and defend. It barely exists but this board doesn't have any problems chasing their tail on that one as if that type of player is in abundance.

Absolutely. Guys like Gibson and Bass can hit a jumper while also contributing in other areas.

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You don't get it man. Stretch 4 blah blah blah, 4 out 1 in mumble mumble mumble, max contract blah blah blah. I'm so tired of this F'ing argument I damn near wish he'd leave to never have to deal with this again.

This post makes no sense.

If we re sign Moose cool.

If we re sign both Moose and RJ for max we don't have alot of money to get a 3. I don't want to give up on KCP yet, I want to give him untill around all-star break next year to see if he has become more consistent. I would rather pay max to a SF than Moose tho, especially because the SF is the new Center (like back in the 90's) imo. If we do re sign Moose I won't mind, but I won't mind if they let him go either

We actually have plenty to sign an upgrade at the 2 & 3 & still resign Monroe & Reggie.

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I don't hate stretch 4's, I hate people's use of the term (and max contract for that matter) with absolutely zero context of what they're talking about. Any PF with a decent 15 footer gets called a stretch 4 around here when in fact, that's just a POWER FORWARD. And for the record, if given the choice, I'd rather have a Taj Gibson over some unicorn of a stretch 4 that could supposedly rebound and defend. It barely exists but this board doesn't have any problems chasing their tail on that one as if that type of player is in abundance.

Again playoff ball is a numbers thing. The further away from the basket, the lower the % of the attempt. The last thing we want is our 7 footers shooting 30 footers.

Its why teams with bigs that score inside like Memphis make deep playoff runs & teams that shoot 40 footers like the Clipps do not.

In Monroe's case, id love if he could hit a jumper or 2 more per game (hes shown fully capable when he sets his feet in rhythm) but with his ability in the high post, the same space is achieved so it's not really a discussion piece.

[DetroitSho]

You don't get it man. Stretch 4 blah blah blah, 4 out 1 in mumble mumble mumble, max contract blah blah blah. I'm so tired of this F'ing argument I damn near wish he'd leave to never have to deal with this again.

This post makes no sense.

If we re sign Moose cool.

If we re sign both Moose and RJ for max we don't have alot of money to get a 3. I don't want to give up on KCP yet, I want to give him untill around all-star break next year to see if he has become more consistent. I would rather pay max to a SF than Moose tho, especially because the SF is the new Center (like back in the 90's) imo. If we do re sign Moose I won't mind, but I won't mind if they let him go either

We actually have plenty to sign an upgrade at the 2 & 3 & still resign Monroe & Reggie.

You apparently missed the clear sarcasm in my post.

[sc8581]

I don't hate stretch 4's, I hate people's use of the term (and max contract for that matter) with absolutely zero context of what they're talking about. Any PF with a decent 15 footer gets called a stretch 4 around here when in fact, that's just a POWER FORWARD. And for the record, if given the choice, I'd rather have a Taj Gibson over some unicorn of a stretch 4 that could supposedly rebound and defend. It barely exists but this board doesn't have any problems chasing their tail on that one as if that type of player is in abundance.

Again playoff ball is a numbers thing. The further away from the basket, the lower the % of the attempt. The last thing we want is our 7 footers shooting 30 footers.

Its why teams with bigs that score inside like Memphis make deep playoff runs & teams that shoot 40 footers like the Clipps do not.

In Monroe's case, id love if he could hit a jumper or 2 more per game (hes shown fully capable when he sets his feet in rhythm) but with his ability in the high post, the same space is achieved so it's not really a discussion piece.

You can't compare Drumroe to Gandolph, they can both hit jumpers and do so regularly.

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I don't hate stretch 4's, I hate people's use of the term (and max contract for that matter) with absolutely zero context of what they're talking about. Any PF with a decent 15 footer gets called a stretch 4 around here when in fact, that's just a POWER FORWARD. And for the record, if given the choice, I'd rather have a Taj Gibson over some unicorn of a stretch 4 that could supposedly rebound and defend. It barely exists but this board doesn't have any problems chasing their tail on that one as if that type of player is in abundance.

Again playoff ball is a numbers thing. The further away from the basket, the lower the % of the attempt. The last thing we want is our 7 footers shooting 30 footers.

Its why teams with bigs that score inside like Memphis make deep playoff runs & teams that shoot 40 footers like the Clipps do not.

In Monroe's case, id love if he could hit a jumper or 2 more per game (hes shown fully capable when he sets his feet in rhythm) but with his ability in the high post, the same space is achieved so it's not really a discussion piece.

You can't compare Drumroe to Gandolph, they can both hit jumpers and do so regularly.

And 1 for Grandolph. Nice work

but Zach is a power big. in the Regular season he averages around 7 shots inside 5 feet, 6 outside. In the 2013 post season when they made their deep run he took about 9 shots inside 5 feet, 4 outside.

Playoff ball is way different than Regular season ball.

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You don't get it man. Stretch 4 blah blah blah, 4 out 1 in mumble mumble mumble, max contract blah blah blah. I'm so tired of this F'ing argument I damn near wish he'd leave to never have to deal with this again.

This post makes no sense.

If we re sign Moose cool.

If we re sign both Moose and RJ for max we don't have alot of money to get a 3. I don't want to give up on KCP yet, I want to give him untill around all-star break next year to see if he has become more consistent. I would rather pay max to a SF than Moose tho, especially because the SF is the new Center (like back in the 90's) imo. If we do re sign Moose I won't mind, but I won't mind if they let him go either

We actually have plenty to sign an upgrade at the 2 & 3 & still resign Monroe & Reggie.

You apparently missed the clear sarcasm in my post.

Yeah, I did & I never miss that. I AM Mr. sarcasm. Fail by me bro.

*takes L*

[DetroitSho]

All good homie. I was mocking the use of the terms stretch 4 and max contract without people knowing any context of them. Somebody actually called Amir freaking Johnson a stretch 4.