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Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015

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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#141 » by russkopp » Sat Apr 4, 2015 1:04 pm

For the first time since "going to work" disbanded, you can see a foundation being built that's from guys all under 24. It's refreshing. There's no 28-29 year old taking up all our money. In stan I trust.
Reggie, Dre, Kcp + draft pick & free agent money
Jennings is a toss up but could be valuable if healthy and a valuable expiring if healthy but not the right fit.
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#142 » by rmfc » Sat Apr 4, 2015 1:30 pm

Need to add (at least) one good 2-way starter via FA or draft the off-season. It'll just make this team look so much more awesome on both ends of the floor.
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#143 » by Lucidity » Sat Apr 4, 2015 1:47 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:
Lucidity wrote:Zero to hang our heads about, what an effort & fight from our guys tonight.

The future looks brighter around Reggie & Andre by the day.

No question. They never packed it in and let the game get away from them. They had a shot until that amazing Pau rebound/dunk.



& the Pau rebound was because he played that P&R perfectly. Drummond flashed like he was supposed to. Just a great veteran play by Pau.
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#144 » by Lucidity » Sat Apr 4, 2015 1:49 pm

russkopp wrote:For the first time since "going to work" disbanded, you can see a foundation being built that's from guys all under 24. It's refreshing. There's no 28-29 year old taking up all our money. In stan I trust.
Reggie, Dre, Kcp + draft pick & free agent money
Jennings is a toss up but could be valuable if healthy and a valuable expiring if healthy but not the right fit.


Id swap Jennings & KCP in your future scenario. Its all about consistency, Jennings was very consistent under SVG post cutting stupid.
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#145 » by russkopp » Sat Apr 4, 2015 4:02 pm

Lucidity wrote:
russkopp wrote:For the first time since "going to work" disbanded, you can see a foundation being built that's from guys all under 24. It's refreshing. There's no 28-29 year old taking up all our money. In stan I trust.
Reggie, Dre, Kcp + draft pick & free agent money
Jennings is a toss up but could be valuable if healthy and a valuable expiring if healthy but not the right fit.


Id swap Jennings & KCP in your future scenario. Its all about consistency, Jennings was very consistent under SVG post cutting stupid.


Definitely. I just wonder if he would accept coming off the bench, even as a super sub. Stan traded for Reggie, he's getting resigned and starting. I'd love jennings to stay tho, he can get HOT
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#146 » by hoophabit » Sat Apr 4, 2015 9:39 pm

Unless the Pistons are willing to pretty much give Jennings away, they'll probably have him on the roster for a while. I won't write off the possibility that he might still work in a guard rotation. Jennings has been a good citizen since coming over. He'll be in his final year and motivated to play well. Jackson has talent, and the two ball handler lineups are used more these days. It'll play out.
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#147 » by need4detroit » Sat Apr 4, 2015 11:40 pm

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need4detroit wrote:If we were to land the second overall pick, who would you take. Would a Towns-Drummond backcourt have adequate space?


He cant shoot & his post game is still novice but not like it matters, guys on here get confused all the time on the 2 bigs who fit that we currently have.

I dont want to go through that again if Moose bolts.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiCWUT06BX8[/youtube]
Towns can't shoot?
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#148 » by Lucidity » Sun Apr 5, 2015 2:01 pm

need4detroit wrote:
Lucidity wrote:
need4detroit wrote:If we were to land the second overall pick, who would you take. Would a Towns-Drummond backcourt have adequate space?


He cant shoot & his post game is still novice but not like it matters, guys on here get confused all the time on the 2 bigs who fit that we currently have.

I dont want to go through that again if Moose bolts.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiCWUT06BX8[/youtube]
Towns can't shoot?


Let me put it this way-

He's not a "stretch 4" as you guys love to call them & the Monroe detractors have said we need a stretch 4.

As scouts have said, with his size, he's a guy you want playing near the rim & his post game is still very novice.
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#149 » by princeofpalace » Sun Apr 5, 2015 2:07 pm

Towns is not a good 3 point shooter, him being able to hit the three every so often doesn't make him a guy that spreads the floor because guys will want him to take that shot much like they wanted Smith too.
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#150 » by sc8581 » Tue Apr 7, 2015 3:43 am

I think Sheed only shot around 32% from 3 but he still had to be guarded out there. You guys do realize that the difference between 32%(considered awful) and 40%(considered elite) is only 8 makes more per 100 taken right? That's like 1 more made 3 pointer every 2-3 games for those that take a good amount.
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#151 » by tmorgan » Tue Apr 7, 2015 4:36 am

sc8581 wrote:I think Sheed only shot around 32% from 3 but he still had to be guarded out there. You guys do realize that the difference between 32%(considered awful) and 40%(considered elite) is only 8 makes more per 100 taken right? That's like 1 more made 3 pointer every 2-3 games for those that take a good amount.


Sometimes, when you're confrontational, you're at least kind of right and have a point. This time, you're just spouting nonsense.

With the exception of truly awful shooters that still take them (like Josh Smith) and a couple of lower usage sharpshooters each year (Korver), 30-45% is THE ENTIRE RANGE OF AVAILABLE TALENT in three point shooting. So what if it's only 15 more makes per 100? The top of the range is still making them 50% more often than the bottom of the range. Surely someone that likes statistical arguments such as yourself has a handle on this basic concept.

A truly horrid major league hitter gets 120 hits in 600 at bats, and a very good one gets 180. That's only one extra hit per ten at bats! Is this REALLY your line of reasoning here?

And by the way, Sheed wasn't really guarded out there.
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#152 » by need4detroit » Tue Apr 7, 2015 6:45 am

tmorgan wrote:
sc8581 wrote:I think Sheed only shot around 32% from 3 but he still had to be guarded out there. You guys do realize that the difference between 32%(considered awful) and 40%(considered elite) is only 8 makes more per 100 taken right? That's like 1 more made 3 pointer every 2-3 games for those that take a good amount.


Sometimes, when you're confrontational, you're at least kind of right and have a point. This time, you're just spouting nonsense.

With the exception of truly awful shooters that still take them (like Josh Smith) and a couple of lower usage sharpshooters each year (Korver), 30-45% is THE ENTIRE RANGE OF AVAILABLE TALENT in three point shooting. So what if it's only 15 more makes per 100? The top of the range is still making them 50% more often than the bottom of the range. Surely someone that likes statistical arguments such as yourself has a handle on this basic concept.

A truly horrid major league hitter gets 120 hits in 600 at bats, and a very good one gets 180. That's only one extra hit per ten at bats! Is this REALLY your line of reasoning here?

And by the way, Sheed wasn't really guarded out there.

Sheed was definitely guarded out there.
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Re: Pistons @ Bulls 04.03.2015 

Post#153 » by sc8581 » Tue Apr 7, 2015 9:15 am

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tmorgan wrote:
sc8581 wrote:I think Sheed only shot around 32% from 3 but he still had to be guarded out there. You guys do realize that the difference between 32%(considered awful) and 40%(considered elite) is only 8 makes more per 100 taken right? That's like 1 more made 3 pointer every 2-3 games for those that take a good amount.


Sometimes, when you're confrontational, you're at least kind of right and have a point. This time, you're just spouting nonsense.

With the exception of truly awful shooters that still take them (like Josh Smith) and a couple of lower usage sharpshooters each year (Korver), 30-45% is THE ENTIRE RANGE OF AVAILABLE TALENT in three point shooting. So what if it's only 15 more makes per 100? The top of the range is still making them 50% more often than the bottom of the range. Surely someone that likes statistical arguments such as yourself has a handle on this basic concept.

A truly horrid major league hitter gets 120 hits in 600 at bats, and a very good one gets 180. That's only one extra hit per ten at bats! Is this REALLY your line of reasoning here?

And by the way, Sheed wasn't really guarded out there.


Not 15 more per 100, just 8, which is like one made instead of missed every 3 games. It's also not just about that, its about defenders having to leave the paint and opening things up for teammates.

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