Official 2015 NBA Draft Discussion Thread [ft. TyCobb]

Michael Lucky · Post #981 » by **Michael Lucky** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 3:29 am

TyCobb wrote:Pft. Kentucky's depth is ridiculous. This is a huge upset.

Wisconsin has talent and are far more experienced and have played better competition all year. I don't blame Vegas for considering Kentucky a small favorite.

Post #982 » by **TyCobb** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 3:34 am

Michael Lucky wrote:
TyCobb wrote:Pft. Kentucky's depth is ridiculous. This is a huge upset.

Wisconsin has talent and are far more experienced and have played better competition all year. I don't blame Vegas for considering Kentucky a small favorite.

Vegas' lines have nothing to do with the reality of the matchup. They're just trying to get equal money on both sides.

Karmaloop · Post #983 » by **Karmaloop** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 3:35 am

Slava wrote:I don't think anyone's stock fell worse than Devin Booker tonight. He was projected 15-19 but now I would be surprised if he even gets picked in the first round.

Stocks don't fall based on one game.

Michael Lucky · Post #984 » by **Michael Lucky** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 3:37 am

TyCobb wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:
TyCobb wrote:Pft. Kentucky's depth is ridiculous. This is a huge upset.

Wisconsin has talent and are far more experienced and have played better competition all year. I don't blame Vegas for considering Kentucky a small favorite.

Vegas' lines have nothing to do with the reality of the matchup. They're just trying to get equal money on both sides.

Which is actually saying something since there's a tendency for the amateur betters to take the over while professional betters tend to do the exact opposite.

Post #985 » by **TyCobb** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 3:39 am

Michael Lucky wrote:
TyCobb wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:Wisconsin has talent and are far more experienced and have played better competition all year. I don't blame Vegas for considering Kentucky a small favorite.

Vegas' lines have nothing to do with the reality of the matchup. They're just trying to get equal money on both sides.

Which is actually saying something since there's a tendency for the amateur betters to take the over while professional betters tend to do the exact opposite.

From what I've been reading, Vegas is gonna lose a bunch. All the early action was on Wisconsin, if they had significant ML bets for the Badgers then I expect some suicides.

Post #986 » by **Slava** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 4:30 am

Karmaloop wrote:
Slava wrote:I don't think anyone's stock fell worse than Devin Booker tonight. He was projected 15-19 but now I would be surprised if he even gets picked in the first round.

Stocks don't fall based on one game.

They do when you look helpless and there wasn't much more than hype to begin with.

iamworthy · Post #987 » by **iamworthy** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 4:56 am

Would you guys draft Willie cauley stein at number 5?

tugs · Post #988 » by **tugs** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 8:50 am

I take it back. Jahlil's composure is something else.

tugs · Post #989 » by **tugs** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 9:10 am

If we miss out on the prized bigs I think Stanley Johnson would be a great addition. Not sure why I am getting a Terrence Williams attitude vibe but I hope that's not the case. Throw money at Gasol or Monroe and call it an off season.

ROballer · Post #990 » by **ROballer** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 9:13 am

Winslow >Johnson

It's either Justise or Hezonja for me at this point ...

tugs · Post #991 » by **tugs** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 9:25 am

At this point Hezonja would be my pick out of the 3. There's just something with Euro players' games readiness when jumping to the NBA. Good call Ro.

Kalidogg24 · Post #992 » by **Kalidogg24** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 9:39 am

iamworthy wrote:Would you guys draft Willie cauley stein at number 5?

Not sold on him.

He's pretty much only defense. An it's not guaranteed he'll dominate defensively like he did in college in the NBA. An to further that statement imagine how he'll do with guarding bigs with a great outside touch. Wisconsin exposed him so badly yesterday.

Kalidogg24 · Post #993 » by **Kalidogg24** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 9:43 am

ROballer wrote:Winslow >Johnson

It's either Justise or Hezonja for me at this point ...

Yeah justise has a nice game like a mini bosh imo. I think soo many people are overlooking he has Jahlil Okafor down low taking away attention from him. An plus hoopin in a Coach K system is gonna get you some exposure. Especially during tourney time.

Only thing I'll give an edge to Winslow is his jumper is better.
Athleticism and physicality it's not even close imo.
Stanley >>>>>>>>> Justise Winslow.

I can't wait for the NBA combine to come around.

Mirjalovic · Post #994 » by **Mirjalovic** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 11:15 am

iamworthy wrote:Would you guys draft Willie cauley stein at number 5?

yes

my board at 5
WCS
Hezonja
Stanley
Mudiay

trade down

ratedrdb · Post #995 » by **ratedrdb** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 11:43 am

wcs-- was passive last night not into it
towns-- was unable to shake free in the post
Big K-- took charge a lot of moves that a young PAU did.... I like more
winslow== will be the steal of the draft... he is made for the nba
okafor--- moves and pose but not great on d
so who do we get ?????

ratedrdb · Post #996 » by **ratedrdb** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 11:45 am

pg-- clarckson
sg-- kobe
sf==?????
pf--- randle??
c---??????

Mirjalovic · Post #997 » by **Mirjalovic** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 12:22 pm

ratedrdb wrote:pg-- clarckson
sg-- kobe
sf==?????
pf--- randle??
c---??????

Clarkson
Kobe
Stanley/Carroll/Middleton/Kahwi
Randle
WCS/Town/Jahlil/Marc..

yitur · Post #998 » by **yitur** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 12:24 pm

ratedrdb wrote:pg-- clarckson
sg-- kobe
sf==?????
pf--- randle??
c---??????

With 1 top 5 pick and 2 considerably good picks(a late 1st and high 2nd) we can fill the two positions. At the start of the season I thought Clarkson hype was something like a Devin Ebanks hype, but I was wrong. He improved so much and he can get even better next 2-3 years. If we can get the bigs(okafor-towns) I'm all for RHJ or Anderson or get Winslow-Hezonja with the pick and draft Upshaw late.

tugs · Post #999 » by **tugs** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 1:05 pm

If Davis exercises his PO, 10 players are under contract

Clarkson
Bryant/Brown
Young
Randle/Kelly
Hill/Davis/Black/Sacre

We have nice depth at 4 and 5 but we really don't have 'the man' in those positions. Getting Okafor and Towns could set a rotation of Okafor or Towns/Hill/Black/Sacre at C and could slide Davis to his natural 4 position with Randle and Kelly.

SF right now will solely be Young, unless Kobe slides there. Winslow, Hezonja, and Johnson are very welcome to beef that position up. Then just sign Upshaw later.

The draft has a lot of great quality PGs but I think if we land the bigs or those wings, let's fill the PG spot via free agency.

iamworthy · Post #1000 » by **iamworthy** » Sun Apr 5, 2015 6:10 pm

Kalidogg24 wrote:
iamworthy wrote:Would you guys draft Willie cauley stein at number 5?

Not sold on him.

He's pretty much only defense. An it's not guaranteed he'll dominate defensively like he did in college in the NBA. An to further that statement imagine how he'll do with guarding bigs with a great outside touch. Wisconsin exposed him so badly yesterday.

I think you need guys like this to win championships. Everyone can't score the ball, and it's even better when the defensive player knows he's not a offensive player. I like a front line of randle and WCS.

Who will win the national championship?