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OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread

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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#761 » by Schad » Sun Apr 5, 2015 11:07 pm

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Schadenfreude wrote:Atl takes back $15m this year, $11m next w/buyouts, $1m in 2017. Ships out $23.5m this year, $26m next, $29.5m in 2017.


Yeah, the 20m I referred to didn't include Kimbrel's money, which he's actually earning, unlike the OF who are really only money being traded. But man is SD really committing to it this year.


Padres are definitely giving it a go. Reeks of Jays in 2012 though...they've shipped much of their farm and taken on some pretty scary long-term money and still are well short of guaranteed a playoff spot given the presence of the Dodgers and an injury-prone grouping.
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Post#762 » by Kaizen » Sun Apr 5, 2015 11:20 pm

Does Quentin suck now? They are going to DFA him.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#763 » by Schad » Sun Apr 5, 2015 11:26 pm

Kaizen wrote:Does Quentin suck now? They are going to DFA him.


He sucks at staying healthy, mostly.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#764 » by BramptonYute » Sun Apr 5, 2015 11:54 pm

Damn, Padres need to trade us one of their relievers. I have no idea what we have that they'd want.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#765 » by vaff87 » Mon Apr 6, 2015 12:21 am

Have the Padres moved any of their 19 outfielders they've acquired this off-season to first?
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#766 » by Kurtz » Mon Apr 6, 2015 1:06 am

Padres sending Quackenbush down. Can we get him?
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#767 » by Schad » Mon Apr 6, 2015 1:27 am

Kurtz wrote:Padres sending Quackenbush down. Can we get him?


I'd expect that they'll hang on to him...knowing Preller he likely has another trade pending, and Quackenbush is too good to be on the farm long.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#768 » by polo007 » Mon Apr 6, 2015 2:22 am

According to Bruce Arthur of the Toronto Star, Toronto Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos is confident in the team he has put together. But he’s also prepared to make the tough decisions should they be required as the season progresses.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/ ... rthur.html

Playoffs or bust can incentivize selfishness, and ignores big-picture planning, too. But Anthopoulos’s promoter and protector, Jays president Paul Beeston, spent his off-season avoiding the clumsy, fumbling shivs of his bosses. He found out he was being replaced when his old friend Jerry Reinsdorf called to say Rogers had called to hire White Sox executive Kenny Williams, for Beeston’s job. The mess ended with a one-year goodbye for Beeston, and maybe Anthopoulos. Strange days, but the once-boy wonder can’t think like that.

“I don’t. I’m 37 years old, and I still think I’m young in my career, and I never sit down and look at my status or my career,” says Anthopoulos. “I guess I feel it’s like a jumping-off point — jumping off in a good way, moving upwards. Because the nucleus we have in place has a chance to be together for a long time. And I think we can continue to add because we’ll have even more financial flexibility a year from now. There’s a ton of young talent on the team; there’s more on the way.

“So I feel like we’re finally in a position to go on a long run with some of the young talent that’s starting to emerge.”

That’s a convenient line of thought, but there’s something there. The Jays have young arms, power bats in their prime, one contract that lasts past 2016. They have between $20 million-$30 million (U.S.) coming off the books next summer, after they finally dipped into free agency this winter. There’s not enough depth, and they’re leaning too hard on the kids, probably. The division’s mediocre; maybe there’s enough, and maybe not. But there’s something here.

Still, playoffs or bust would loom for most people. Anthopoulos is one of those people who feels like making the best decision helps him sleep at night: as he puts it, “I think something is right or wrong because the process is right or wrong.” He wants to do the right thing.


In a division where nobody’s projected to run away and hide, what if the arms hold up, and the unbalanced lineup mashes, and the injuries aren’t crippling? What if the trade deadline approaches and the Jays are close, or leading? Is the right move to go for it? Is the right move to wait? Playoffs or bust, they say. The bet here is that Alex Anthopoulos will try to do the right thing for the franchise, whatever the hell that will be.

“We have the assets to do it,” says Anthopoulos. “We have the assets in terms of dollars, and minor-league currency. The toughest decision is, do you want to trade your young players? And I hope we’re in that position. I’d be thrilled if we were in that position.

“I want to be in that position where we have to make a really tough call — you know, we have a young player we don’t want to part with, but it can really put us over the top. I mean, I’d love to have a gut-wrenching decision like that, because it would mean that we have a shot. Which is what you want.”
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Post#769 » by HangTime » Mon Apr 6, 2015 2:25 am

It's pretty cool that we get to start the year on ESPN.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#770 » by Michael Bradley » Mon Apr 6, 2015 3:02 am

Damn just saw the game tomorrow is in the afternoon. Would have preferred a night game. Oh well. I guess I know what I'll be doing at work.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#771 » by Kurtz » Mon Apr 6, 2015 3:45 am

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Kurtz wrote:Padres sending Quackenbush down. Can we get him?


I'd expect that they'll hang on to him...knowing Preller he likely has another trade pending, and Quackenbush is too good to be on the farm long.


Dangit. But I want my Quackenbush now!!
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#772 » by Graham's Cracker » Mon Apr 6, 2015 12:31 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Kurtz wrote:Padres sending Quackenbush down. Can we get him?


I'd expect that they'll hang on to him...knowing Preller he likely has another trade pending, and Quackenbush is too good to be on the farm long.

As it goes "a bird in the hand is worth two in the [Quacken]bush"
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#773 » by satyr9 » Mon Apr 6, 2015 12:38 pm

Graham's Cracker wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:
Kurtz wrote:Padres sending Quackenbush down. Can we get him?


I'd expect that they'll hang on to him...knowing Preller he likely has another trade pending, and Quackenbush is too good to be on the farm long.

As it goes "a bird in the hand is worth two in the [Quacken]bush"


This sounds like some kind of old-timey math problem when we still counted in spans, barleycorns, and fallows. How many birds are in a quackenbush kids?
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#774 » by Graham's Cracker » Mon Apr 6, 2015 1:13 pm

satyr9 wrote:
Graham's Cracker wrote:
Schadenfreude wrote:
I'd expect that they'll hang on to him...knowing Preller he likely has another trade pending, and Quackenbush is too good to be on the farm long.

As it goes "a bird in the hand is worth two in the [Quacken]bush"


This sounds like some kind of old-timey math problem when we still counted in spans, barleycorns, and fallows. How many birds are in a quackenbush kids?

lol. I'll eat my hat if Quackenbush isn't worth 1.5 barleycorns above replacement. Advanced statistics meets 'old-timey math'.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#775 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Apr 6, 2015 1:22 pm

Quackenbush is Dutch and means 'From the forest of the croaking frogs', because why not.

More Quackenfacts can be found in this book, which seems to exist: http://www.amazon.com/Quackenbush-famil ... B0006EQF6S
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Re: OFFICIAL: 2015 Spring Training Thread 

Post#776 » by Graham's Cracker » Mon Apr 6, 2015 1:37 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:Quackenbush is Dutch and means 'From the forest of the croaking frogs', because why not.

More Quackenfacts can be found in this book, which seems to exist: http://www.amazon.com/Quackenbush-famil ... B0006EQF6S


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