FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[dakomish23]

Things on my wishlist

Koufus - 7-8 mil
Danny Green - 7-8 mil
Beverly 5-6 mil
Gerald Greene - 4-5 mil
Ed Davis 4-5 mil
Trade for Jennings and get an asset for it
Trade for Stephenson and get an asset for it
Trade for Gibson
Trade for Holiday
Trade for Anderson
Trade Calderon

Can't do all of these obviously but am hoping 3-4 of these happen. My top wishes are signing Green and Koufos and trading for Gibson

Ewww to almost all of those bruh


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Now I know I'm on the right track. No sexy names here. Just functional guys for fit with Melo and the triangle while keeping flexibility in 2016 and 2017. If you have a roster with say Green, Gibson, Koufus Holiday, our pick and Melo, you can sell that to big names in future FAs that you have a good core. Rt now it's a wasteland and you're asking someone to be the savior. Way easier sell

[NBA Fan 1234]

Danny Green is going to be looking at 10/year. Jodie Meeks gets 7, FFS.

[Reign23]

danny green is one of my top free agent targets at 9-12 mil. Such a good defender (can guard 3 positions) and three point shooter with championship experience and also from new york... pls sign him phil

[R-DAWG]

danny green is one of my top free agent targets at 9-12 mil. Such a good defender (can guard 3 positions) and three point shooter with championship experience and also from new york... pls sign him phil

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Other affordable players that could should be targeted are Kosta Kufos, Brandon Bass and DeMare Carroll. Bass and Carroll would allow NYK to play Carmelo in a similar role to what Miami did with Lebron, Hasslem and Battier. Neither Bass or Carroll should cost more than the mid level on a short term deal and you may be able to get Bass with the room exception. Kufos signed to a reasonable deal ($5-7 million for 2-3 years) becomes another trade chip moving forward.

There's nothing sexy or spectacular about it, but an off season where we signed Green, Kufos, Carroll and Bass to contracts without overpaying while adding a quality rookie would be great.

One last thing, I would try to get creative with a short term Reggie Jackson contract. He struggled in OKC but has put up monster numbers with Detroit the past month. If we offered the full max for 2 years guaranteed with a team option and small guarantee for the 3rd year it could get interesting. I'd offer Jackson a 3 year deal starting at $15.85 million (full max) worth just shy of $50 million but with only $2 million of the final year guaranteed. While paying Jackson an average of $16.2 million for 2 years is aggressive ($17.2 million if you include the guaranteed part of the 3rd year) there is no long term commitment if it doesn't work out.

Kufos
Anthony
Carroll
Green
Jackson

with Bass, Hardaway, Calderon and the draft pick off the bench is a very very solid 9 man rotation and should win 45-50 games and be a mid tier playoff team that walks into the 2016 off season with a full max slot open and quality role players on fair market contracts that can be moved in trades.

[Reign23]

danny green is one of my top free agent targets at 9-12 mil. Such a good defender (can guard 3 positions) and three point shooter with championship experience and also from new york... pls sign him phil

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Other affordable players that could should be targeted are Kosta Kufos, Brandon Bass and DeMare Carroll. Bass and Carroll would allow NYK to play Carmelo in a similar role to what Miami did with Lebron, Hasslem and Battier. Neither Bass or Carroll should cost more than the mid level on a short term deal and you may be able to get Bass with the room exception. Kufos signed to a reasonable deal ($5-7 million for 2-3 years) becomes another trade chip moving forward.

There's nothing sexy or spectacular about it, but an off season where we signed Green, Kufos, Carroll and Bass to contracts without overpaying while adding a quality rookie would be great.

One last thing, I would try to get creative with a short term Reggie Jackson contract. He struggled in OKC but has put up monster numbers with Detroit the past month. If we offered the full max for 2 years guaranteed with a team option and small guarantee for the 3rd year it could get interesting. I'd offer Jackson a 3 year deal starting at $15.85 million (full max) worth just shy of $50 million but with only $2 million of the final year guaranteed. While paying Jackson an average of $16.2 million for 2 years is aggressive ($17.2 million if you include the guaranteed part of the 3rd year) there is no long term commitment if it doesn't work out.

Kufos
Anthony
Carroll
Green
Jackson

with Bass, Hardaway, Calderon and the draft pick off the bench is a very very solid 9 man rotation and should win 45-50 games and be a mid tier playoff team that walks into the 2016 off season with a full max slot open and quality role players on fair market contracts that can be moved in trades.

sorry but your numbers are completely unrealistic. you won't get danny green for 7-8 mil nor carroll for the MLE. both will be in the 10 mil per year range.

[sportscrazy]

danny green is one of my top free agent targets at 9-12 mil. Such a good defender (can guard 3 positions) and three point shooter with championship experience and also from new york... pls sign him phil

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Other affordable players that could should be targeted are Kosta Kufos, Brandon Bass and DeMare Carroll. Bass and Carroll would allow NYK to play Carmelo in a similar role to what Miami did with Lebron, Hasslem and Battier. Neither Bass or Carroll should cost more than the mid level on a short term deal and you may be able to get Bass with the room exception. Kufos signed to a reasonable deal ($5-7 million for 2-3 years) becomes another trade chip moving forward.

There's nothing sexy or spectacular about it, but an off season where we signed Green, Kufos, Carroll and Bass to contracts without overpaying while adding a quality rookie would be great.

One last thing, I would try to get creative with a short term Reggie Jackson contract. He struggled in OKC but has put up monster numbers with Detroit the past month. If we offered the full max for 2 years guaranteed with a team option and small guarantee for the 3rd year it could get interesting. I'd offer Jackson a 3 year deal starting at $15.85 million (full max) worth just shy of $50 million but with only $2 million of the final year guaranteed. While paying Jackson an average of $16.2 million for 2 years is aggressive ($17.2 million if you include the guaranteed part of the 3rd year) there is no long term commitment if it doesn't work out.

Kufos
Anthony
Carroll
Green
Jackson

with Bass, Hardaway, Calderon and the draft pick off the bench is a very very solid 9 man rotation and should win 45-50 games and be a mid tier playoff team that walks into the 2016 off season with a full max slot open and quality role players on fair market contracts that can be moved in trades.

We can probably land Afflao at a starting salary of 8 or 9 million, but Green would probably be in the 10-12 range this summer. For that difference in price I prefer Afflalo.

[Reign23]

danny green is one of my top free agent targets at 9-12 mil. Such a good defender (can guard 3 positions) and three point shooter with championship experience and also from new york... pls sign him phil

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Other affordable players that could should be targeted are Kosta Kufos, Brandon Bass and DeMare Carroll. Bass and Carroll would allow NYK to play Carmelo in a similar role to what Miami did with Lebron, Hasslem and Battier. Neither Bass or Carroll should cost more than the mid level on a short term deal and you may be able to get Bass with the room exception. Kufos signed to a reasonable deal ($5-7 million for 2-3 years) becomes another trade chip moving forward.

There's nothing sexy or spectacular about it, but an off season where we signed Green, Kufos, Carroll and Bass to contracts without overpaying while adding a quality rookie would be great.

One last thing, I would try to get creative with a short term Reggie Jackson contract. He struggled in OKC but has put up monster numbers with Detroit the past month. If we offered the full max for 2 years guaranteed with a team option and small guarantee for the 3rd year it could get interesting. I'd offer Jackson a 3 year deal starting at $15.85 million (full max) worth just shy of $50 million but with only $2 million of the final year guaranteed. While paying Jackson an average of $16.2 million for 2 years is aggressive ($17.2 million if you include the guaranteed part of the 3rd year) there is no long term commitment if it doesn't work out.

Kufos
Anthony
Carroll
Green
Jackson

with Bass, Hardaway, Calderon and the draft pick off the bench is a very very solid 9 man rotation and should win 45-50 games and be a mid tier playoff team that walks into the 2016 off season with a full max slot open and quality role players on fair market contracts that can be moved in trades.

We can probably land Afflao at a starting salary of 8 or 9 million, but Green would probably be in the 10-12 range this summer. For that difference in price I prefer Afflalo.

hm I don't. Green is the better defender + shooter and two years younger.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Meeks got his contract because of the upcoming cap increase. Green's value will reflect the new cap as well. People who think he will get around 7-8 million are kidding themselves and are in for a rude awakening. You can't look at Afflalo's old deal or Matthews because they were before the cap spike and the deals end before the cap spike. They are completely irrelevant.

[mpharris36]

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Meeks got his contract because of the upcoming cap increase. Green's value will reflect the new cap as well. People who think he will get around 7-8 million are kidding themselves and are in for a rude awakening. You can't look at Afflalo's old deal or Matthews because they were before the cap spike and the deals end before the cap spike. They are completely irrelevant.

Cap increase means players that use to get 7-8 will now get 9-10. Its just that simple.

Also Danny Green is the better defensive player than all the guy he mentioned above which will make him more $$$ than what people expect. I would give green 9-10 million he is a great piece.

[siar617]

Nothing wrong with paying him. Also want to add Monroe and Harris. If we can get someone to bite on Calderon even if it costs us THjr. This allows us to form a strong core with Towns as the #1pick. Green would keep teams from doubling anyone. Options at all positions is what will make the triangle indefensible.

[R-DAWG]

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Meeks got his contract because of the upcoming cap increase. Green's value will reflect the new cap as well. People who think he will get around 7-8 million are kidding themselves and are in for a rude awakening. You can't look at Afflalo's old deal or Matthews because they were before the cap spike and the deals end before the cap spike. They are completely irrelevant.

Cap increase means players that use to get 7-8 will now get 9-10. Its just that simple.

Also Danny Green is the better defensive player than all the guy he mentioned above which will make him more $$$ than what people expect. I would give green 9-10 million he is a great piece.

No it doesn't automatically mean that. Who's to say that more money doesn't flow to the high end free agents and the mid tier guys end up making the same or less.

Anyway - Danny Green would be a nice addition at $7 million per year. He would not be a nice addition at $10 million per year. Teams trying to sign 3 all star players or maintain the flexibility to have a max slot available until they land one don't pay guys like Danny Green or Aaron Afflalo $10 million per year.

[R-DAWG]

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Meeks got his contract because of the upcoming cap increase. Green's value will reflect the new cap as well. People who think he will get around 7-8 million are kidding themselves and are in for a rude awakening. You can't look at Afflalo's old deal or Matthews because they were before the cap spike and the deals end before the cap spike. They are completely irrelevant.

ok, what about the Kyle Lowry deal. $12 million per year for 4 years. Kyle Lowry is a substantially better player than Danny Green.

[mpharris36]

No it doesn't automatically mean that. Who's to say that more money doesn't flow to the high end free agents and the mid tier guys end up making the same or less.

Anyway - Danny Green would be a nice addition at $7 million per year. He would not be a nice addition at $10 million per year. Teams trying to sign 3 all star players or maintain the flexibility to have a max slot available until they land one don't pay guys like Danny Green or Aaron Afflalo $10 million per year.

the trend suggest an increase in cap related to an increase in players $$$. So no, it just doesn't effect the max salary guys because the teams that miss out on the max guys will then be battling for the services of the next tier.

If JR Smith made 7 million, and Jodie Meeks is making 6+. Green who is vastly superior will make more.

[R-DAWG]

No it doesn't automatically mean that. Who's to say that more money doesn't flow to the high end free agents and the mid tier guys end up making the same or less.

Anyway - Danny Green would be a nice addition at $7 million per year. He would not be a nice addition at $10 million per year. Teams trying to sign 3 all star players or maintain the flexibility to have a max slot available until they land one don't pay guys like Danny Green or Aaron Afflalo $10 million per year.

the trend suggest an increase in cap related to an increase in players $$$. So no, it just doesn't effect the max salary guys because the teams that miss out on the max guys will then be battling for the services of the next tier.

If JR Smith made 7 million, and Jodie Meeks is making 6+. Green who is vastly superior will make more.

First off JR Smith makes an average of $6 million with a contract that started at $5.4 million.

I understand your logic with the cap leading to an increase but locking up mid level players to long term contracts which hurts your long term flexibility has never ever ever been a good move. You give Green a fair contract offer. If he wants $10 million he can get lawst. A guy who at best is your 4th best player is never worth $10 million regardless of the cap. I'd offer Green 4 years, $30 million starting at $7 million and if he says no I move on to something else.

[Meat]

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Meeks got his contract because of the upcoming cap increase. Green's value will reflect the new cap as well. People who think he will get around 7-8 million are kidding themselves and are in for a rude awakening. You can't look at Afflalo's old deal or Matthews because they were before the cap spike and the deals end before the cap spike. They are completely irrelevant.

ok, what about the Kyle Lowry deal. $12 million per year for 4 years. Kyle Lowry is a substantially better player than Danny Green.

you think lowry would only get 12 mil this year.. or next?

[R-DAWG]

Meeks got his contract because of the upcoming cap increase. Green's value will reflect the new cap as well. People who think he will get around 7-8 million are kidding themselves and are in for a rude awakening. You can't look at Afflalo's old deal or Matthews because they were before the cap spike and the deals end before the cap spike. They are completely irrelevant.

ok, what about the Kyle Lowry deal. $12 million per year for 4 years. Kyle Lowry is a substantially better player than Danny Green.

you think lowry would only get 12 mil this year.. or next?

everyone knew about the cap going up last year. Wasn't the other poster making an argument that Meeks got $6m per year because of the cap going up?

Anyway, Kyle Lowry is a difference maker. Danny Green is a complementary role player. You don't overpay those guys before you have your core in place. Danny Green isn't good enough to be your 3rd best player.

[NBA Fan 1234]

I agree that Danny Green should be a top target, but not for $9-12 million per year. That's a HUGE overpay for a solid role player. Green is putting up 12 pts, 4 rebs, 2 assists in just shy of 30 min per game with the Spurs. I think Green's deal should start in the $6-7 million range. A 4 year deal starting at $7 million with 4.5% raises brings the contract value to just shy of $30 million. The average annual salary of $7.5 million is higher than the highest year in Wes Matthews and Aaron Afflalo's current deals.

The key with signing players is not overpaying so the players remain trade assets in the future. Danny Green at $7-8 million can be traded for value. Danny Green at $10-12 million is not.

Meeks got his contract because of the upcoming cap increase. Green's value will reflect the new cap as well. People who think he will get around 7-8 million are kidding themselves and are in for a rude awakening. You can't look at Afflalo's old deal or Matthews because they were before the cap spike and the deals end before the cap spike. They are completely irrelevant.

ok, what about the Kyle Lowry deal. $12 million per year for 4 years. Kyle Lowry is a substantially better player than Danny Green.

Lowry's had injury concerns throughout his career -- that's why his contract was less. There also isn't a huge market for players like Lowry. Point guard is such a deep position -- elite three and D shooting guards are not.

You can't compare the market for one position to the market for another.

[sasso]

Players to avoid in free agency...

Stat stuffers who don't help teams win

After Enes Kanter trashed the Utah Jazz organization and Salt Lake City prior to last weekend's return to Utah, he put up 18 points and 11 rebounds in a game the Jazz won by five points.

Following the game, Utah forward Trevor Booker threw a skyscraper's worth of shade his former teammate's direction in a postgame radio interview. "He got his stats and he got the L, as always," Booker said.

Booker's quote might as well by the slogan for the RPM Mirage team. As opposed to the recent RPM All-Stars, who shine through the prism of ESPN's real plus-minus because of the impact they have that can't be measured in the box score, the RPM Mirages put up big numbers but don't help their team win.Kanter is a prime example ... but he's not the only one.

Starters

Brandon Knight
PG
Phoenix Suns
-2.6 RPM

As the team's leading scorer, Knight got credit for the Milwaukee Bucks' unexpected emergence as a playoff team, making a push for an All-Star spot. Plus-minus data tells a different story. Even with Milwaukee slipping after trading Knight, the Bucks have still been better without him on the court, per NBA.com/Stats.

There's an interesting overlap between Knight and RPM All-Star Khris Middleton. When Knight played with Middleton, Milwaukee was plus-7.5 points per 100 possessions. When Knight played without Middleton, the Bucks were outscored by a ghastly 9.0 points per 100 possessions. Hence the difference in their RPM ratings.

Kobe Bryant
SG
Los Angeles Lakers
-2.7 RPM

Before succumbing to shoulder surgery, Bryant was still putting up 22.3 points per game. However, his inefficient scoring (Bryant's .477 true shooting percentage was far and away the worst of his career, and also the lowest among players who have averaged at least 20 points per 36 minutes this season) meant Bryant was something of a drain on the Lakers' offense, which scored 1.2 fewer points per 100 possessions with him on the floor. The Lakers have basically the same record without Bryant (10-29) as they did with him in the lineup (10-25).

Jeff Green
SF
Memphis Grizzlies
-4.6 RPM

When the Grizzlies won 11 of their first 12 games with Green in the lineup, his midseason addition got most of the credit. But plus-minus data showed the Memphis bench was actually driving the surge, and when the team struggled after the All-Star break, Green was replaced by Tony Allen. The other four Grizzlies starters have outscored opponents by 7.4 points per 100 possessions with Allen, but they're minus-3.8 points per 100 possessions with Green.

Enes Kanter
PF
Oklahoma City Thunder
-3.4 RPM

As Booker alluded to, Kanter has been getting his in Oklahoma City, averaging 17.9 points and 11.0 rebounds per game. Per Basketball-Reference.com, only three players have averaged more points and rebounds this season. Unfortunately, opponents are getting theirs too. With Kanter on the floor, the Thunder are allowing 109.7 points per 100 possessions, which would be worst in the NBA over the course of the season. As a result, Oklahoma City has been slightly outscored when Kanter plays.

Andrea Bargnani
C
New York Knicks
-4.3 RPM

Since getting past injuries, Bargnani has quietly averaged a healthy 14.9 points per game, good for 66th in the NBA. Yet the Knicks are getting crushed by 18.1 points per 100 possessions with Bargnani on the court, worst in the NBA among players with at least 500 minutes played. Even limiting the comparison to post-All-Star break (and Carmelo Anthony's season-ending knee surgery), New York is somehow surrendering 14.5 more points per 100 possessions defensively when Bargnani plays.
Reserves

Michael Carter-Williams
PG
Milwaukee Bucks
-2.9 RPM

Lest Bucks fans get too excited about dealing away Knight at the deadline, the point guard they got in return ranks just behind Knight in RPM. As Bradford Doolittle noted in Thursday's Insider Daily, Carter-Williams isn't really to blame for Milwaukee's post-deadline swoon. At the same time, the 76ers haven't really missed their starting point guard, playing slightly better without Carter-Williams this season. Philadelphia's fast pace helped inflate Carter-Williams' per-game averages, making him look like a better prospect than his team impact would indicate.

Arron Afflalo
SG
Portland Trail Blazers
-3.0 RPM

Afflalo has historically scored worse by RPM than box score advanced stats because of his poor defensive impact. Lo and behold, the Blazers' other four starters with Afflalo have scored as well as with Wesley Matthews in the starting lineup, but Portland is allowing 13.5 more points per 100 possessions on defense. Afflalo isn't that bad on defense, but he also isn't the 3-and-D player his reputation would suggest.

Tobias Harris
SF
Orlando Magic
-2.4 RPM

Harris' 17.0 points and 6.1 rebounds per game look strong for a 22-year-old headed to restricted free agency. RPM tells a different story, again largely because of the defensive end. Orlando has allowed 4.2 more points per 100 possessions with Harris on the floor.

J.J. Hickson
PF
Denver Nuggets
-5.2 RPM

A perennial RPM lagger, Hickson rates average or better by box score stats (he's got a career 16.1 PER, though he's slipped to 14.5 this season after suffering a torn ACL) and as one of the league's worst players in terms of RPM because he doesn't protect the rim or box out (he ranks among the bottom 20 power forwards by boxing out 8.9 percent of the time, per Vantage Sports). This season, Denver has been 6.4 points per 100 possessions worse with Hickson on the court.

Jordan Hill
C
L.A. Lakers
-3.9 RPM

In his first season as a full-time starter, Hill has averaged 12.3 points and 8.2 rebounds per game. Alas, the Lakers have been outscored by 10.0 points per 100 possessions with Hill on the floor. And when both Hill and Bryant took the court, they were a ghastly minus-15.0 points per 100 possessions, worst of any L.A. duo with at least 500 minutes together. In fairness, Hill is miscast as a rim protector, but that's part of the problem -- he doesn't stretch the floor either, making him a tough fit at either frontcourt spot.

[crazybranman360]

How much cap space are we expected to have this summer?

[R-DAWG]

Meeks got his contract because of the upcoming cap increase. Green's value will reflect the new cap as well. People who think he will get around 7-8 million are kidding themselves and are in for a rude awakening. You can't look at Afflalo's old deal or Matthews because they were before the cap spike and the deals end before the cap spike. They are completely irrelevant.

ok, what about the Kyle Lowry deal. $12 million per year for 4 years. Kyle Lowry is a substantially better player than Danny Green.

Lowry's had injury concerns throughout his career -- that's why his contract was less. There also isn't a huge market for players like Lowry. Point guard is such a deep position -- elite three and D shooting guards are not.

You can't compare the market for one position to the market for another.

not going to lie that's a good argument. But while there isn't a huge market for elite 3 and D guards there is a huge market for players who can lead their teams to 48 wins and a division championship. The argument your making towards signing Danny Green for $10 million is basically saying that when the cap goes up in a few years the net effect of the extra money that you pay Green won't matter enough. But keep in mind that the extra money your paying Green is offset by other players signed to long term deals made under the new CBA (like Carmelo Anthony will technically not be a max player in the new CBA). Once the new cap sets in and old cap contracts expire. So my argument is that a $7-8 million player in the new cap world is still a $7-8 million player, the cap jumping by a huge amount gives you the flexibility to overpay someone this year and not have it clog your cap.

I'm cool with overpaying someone to take advantage of the huge jump in cap numbers. I'm not sure Danny Green is the guy you want to use that extra money on. I'd prefer to overpay a younger guy with All-Star potential not a guy who's basically reached his peak as a player (sure, he could average 5 more points per game if he played more on a team with fewer options than the Spurs). Overpay Greg Monore or Enes Kanter or even Reggie Jackson. I'd also throw max offer sheets at Kwahi and Jimmy Butler - you never know. Draymond Green as well (but I want to see him in a playoff series against a true PF before I commit to sign him long term)