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Lol, I'm sure he is. Knight was objectively pretty poor in his limited games here, which might perplex him a bit. Not going to lie, I'm a bit salty at his comments about Kidd focusing on defense and Hornacek focusing on offense, because with Green out of the rotation and Marcus playing at SF instead of at backup PF, Knight was the weakest defender in the rotation. Some nights he was making Markieff look like freaking Kevin Garnett.
I still think he'll match anything though. Not like we're starved for cap space or lacking in financial flexibility down the road. One thing that's kind of underrated is what you have to give up when you trade for a good player. Look at the Harden trade - HOU sent out Martin (good player), Lamb (prospect), 2 firsts, and a second. Look at the Melo trade - Denver got Chandler, Felton, Gallo, Mozgov, a first, and two seconds. Let's say a random superstar would be available for trade tomorrow - I'll arbitrarily select...Paul George, just because I can (not happening, but it's fun to dream). It's not like we could vomit a million first rounders on Indy just to get them to give up Paul George. Need to have a decent stable of players to send out, too.
Getting Knight is essentially diversifying your assets. 2016 projects to be a relatively weak draft, so sending out a pick landing between 6-9 hurts, but it isn't as bad as having sent out one in last year's draft for example. Plumlee was hot garbage, and Ennis was our weakest prospect and honestly a bit of a disappointment*, so giving up those 2 isn't that bad. Knight just represents cashing in one type of assets for another, and given how much McDonough freaking loves stockpiling assets I imagine he'll just match anything, especially if it's 14 mil or less. 15 mil+ you have to at least stop to think about, though.
*Why I think Ennis was a bit of a disappointment: I watched every Bakersfield game that a prospect went on assignment (sometimes, I hate liking the Suns as much as I do). Guys like Warren were improving their pre-draft knocks (one of Warren's was defense, and he was showing nice improvement down there). Ennis was pretty unspectacular, and his pre-draft defensive woes looked even worse than anticipated. I remember watching one game where he just got lit the **** up by Marquis Teague. It was starting to look like improvement on that end might be a little too much to hope for, given his lack of athleticism.
I still think he'll match anything though. Not like we're starved for cap space or lacking in financial flexibility down the road. One thing that's kind of underrated is what you have to give up when you trade for a good player. Look at the Harden trade - HOU sent out Martin (good player), Lamb (prospect), 2 firsts, and a second. Look at the Melo trade - Denver got Chandler, Felton, Gallo, Mozgov, a first, and two seconds. Let's say a random superstar would be available for trade tomorrow - I'll arbitrarily select...Paul George, just because I can (not happening, but it's fun to dream). It's not like we could vomit a million first rounders on Indy just to get them to give up Paul George. Need to have a decent stable of players to send out, too.
Getting Knight is essentially diversifying your assets. 2016 projects to be a relatively weak draft, so sending out a pick landing between 6-9 hurts, but it isn't as bad as having sent out one in last year's draft for example. Plumlee was hot garbage, and Ennis was our weakest prospect and honestly a bit of a disappointment*, so giving up those 2 isn't that bad. Knight just represents cashing in one type of assets for another, and given how much McDonough freaking loves stockpiling assets I imagine he'll just match anything, especially if it's 14 mil or less. 15 mil+ you have to at least stop to think about, though.
*Why I think Ennis was a bit of a disappointment: I watched every Bakersfield game that a prospect went on assignment (sometimes, I hate liking the Suns as much as I do). Guys like Warren were improving their pre-draft knocks (one of Warren's was defense, and he was showing nice improvement down there). Ennis was pretty unspectacular, and his pre-draft defensive woes looked even worse than anticipated. I remember watching one game where he just got lit the **** up by Marquis Teague. It was starting to look like improvement on that end might be a little too much to hope for, given his lack of athleticism.
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Suns / Bulls
Out: Markieff Morris + Marcus Morris
In: Taj Gibson + McDermott
Suns / Kings
Out: Eric Bledsoe + PJ Tucker
In: Pick 8 + Stauskas
Suns draft Hezonja at 8.
Suns sign Biyombo.
C: Len (30)/ Biyombo (18)
PF: Gibson (30) / Wright (18)
SF: Warren (24) / Stauskas (18) / Bullock (6)
SG: Hezonja (24) / McDermott (18) / Goodwin (6)
PG: Knight (30) / Goodwin (18)
Bench (in case of injuries): McNeal (PG) , Granger (SF/PF)
*Bogdanovic
*Brown
Also are waiting to join, maybe in 2016.
Defensive big men, specialists shooters, versatile backcourt, high IQ.
Out: Markieff Morris + Marcus Morris
In: Taj Gibson + McDermott
Suns / Kings
Out: Eric Bledsoe + PJ Tucker
In: Pick 8 + Stauskas
Suns draft Hezonja at 8.
Suns sign Biyombo.
C: Len (30)/ Biyombo (18)
PF: Gibson (30) / Wright (18)
SF: Warren (24) / Stauskas (18) / Bullock (6)
SG: Hezonja (24) / McDermott (18) / Goodwin (6)
PG: Knight (30) / Goodwin (18)
Bench (in case of injuries): McNeal (PG) , Granger (SF/PF)
*Bogdanovic
*Brown
Also are waiting to join, maybe in 2016.
Defensive big men, specialists shooters, versatile backcourt, high IQ.
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1UPZ wrote:Suns / Bulls
Out: Markieff Morris + Marcus Morris
In: Taj Gibson + McDermott
Suns / Kings
Out: Eric Bledsoe + PJ Tucker
In: Pick 8 + Stauskas
Suns draft Hezonja at 8.
Suns sign Biyombo.
C: Len (30)/ Biyombo (18)
PF: Gibson (30) / Wright (18)
SF: Stauskas (24) / McDermott (24)
SG: Hezonja (24) / Bullock (18) / Goodwin (6)
PG: Knight (30) / Goodwin (18)
Bench (in case of injuries): McNeal (PG) , Granger (SF/PF)
*Bogdanovic
*Brown
Also are waiting to join, maybe in 2016.
Defensive big men, specialists shooters, versatile backcourt, high IQ.
Maybe it's just me, but I think I'd go with Warren over Stauskas at the 3.
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Yeah, even if Knight might not be worth what he commands you have to match just to keep the trade asset. You can't trade for a superstar if you don't have at least a bunch of reasonably good players and salaries to send out. I imagine Knight will look much better after a training camp and working out and playing with the players a bit too.
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bwgood77 wrote:1UPZ wrote:Suns / Bulls
Out: Markieff Morris + Marcus Morris
In: Taj Gibson + McDermott
Suns / Kings
Out: Eric Bledsoe + PJ Tucker
In: Pick 8 + Stauskas
Suns draft Hezonja at 8.
Suns sign Biyombo.
C: Len (30)/ Biyombo (18)
PF: Gibson (30) / Wright (18)
SF: Stauskas (24) / McDermott (24)
SG: Hezonja (24) / Bullock (18) / Goodwin (6)
PG: Knight (30) / Goodwin (18)
Bench (in case of injuries): McNeal (PG) , Granger (SF/PF)
*Bogdanovic
*Brown
Also are waiting to join, maybe in 2016.
Defensive big men, specialists shooters, versatile backcourt, high IQ.
Maybe it's just me, but I think I'd go with Warren over Stauskas at the 3.
lol forgot about him.
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In Len We Trust wrote:I think McDonough is baffled about what to do know. He definitely wanted to see a much larger sample size.
Agreed. But there's no way you don't resign Knight at whatever the cost, especially when he gave up the LA pick as part of that deal.
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1UPZ wrote:bwgood77 wrote:1UPZ wrote:Suns / Bulls
Out: Markieff Morris + Marcus Morris
In: Taj Gibson + McDermott
Suns / Kings
Out: Eric Bledsoe + PJ Tucker
In: Pick 8 + Stauskas
Suns draft Hezonja at 8.
Suns sign Biyombo.
C: Len (30)/ Biyombo (18)
PF: Gibson (30) / Wright (18)
SF: Stauskas (24) / McDermott (24)
SG: Hezonja (24) / Bullock (18) / Goodwin (6)
PG: Knight (30) / Goodwin (18)
Bench (in case of injuries): McNeal (PG) , Granger (SF/PF)
*Bogdanovic
*Brown
Also are waiting to join, maybe in 2016.
Defensive big men, specialists shooters, versatile backcourt, high IQ.
Maybe it's just me, but I think I'd go with Warren over Stauskas at the 3.
lol forgot about him.
I'm advocating trading for Sac's pick
But Bled/PJ for the 8th pick and stauskas is SUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH an overpay it's ridiculous
We're getting completely hosed. A combination of the Morri and/or Tucker and/or the 13 pick and/or future picks should be the most we offer
I can't overstate how much of an overpay that is
Second we have Warren, no need for Mcdermott
Third, Taj is relatively old and honestly wouldn't be that much of a difference maker at all, trading both of the Morri (I despise the Morri) and losing that depth and those good contracts for an almost over-the hill maybe above average starter like Taj is also such an overpay
Taj would be like 35 by the team was anywhere close to contention
These are horrible trades. You have the right thinking in a way, but you have to offer the Morri and filler to sactown for whatever pick they have and it would be a little more realistic
If someone's offering you a Top 5 pick, then maybe you consider trading Bledsoe; trading him and Tucker for 8th would get you fired immediately
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Mr-Al wrote:1UPZ wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I think I'd go with Warren over Stauskas at the 3.
lol forgot about him.
I'm advocating trading for Sac's pick
But Bled/PJ for the 8th pick and stauskas is SUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH an overpay it's ridiculous
We're getting completely hosed. A combination of the Morri and/or Tucker and/or the 13 pick and/or future picks should be the most we offer
I can't overstate how much of an overpay that is
Second we have Warren, no need for Mcdermott
Third, Taj is relatively old and honestly wouldn't be that much of a difference maker at all, trading both of the Morri (I despise the Morri) and losing that depth and those good contracts for an almost over-the hill maybe above average starter like Taj is also such an overpay
Taj would be like 35 by the team was anywhere close to contention
These are horrible trades. You have the right thinking in a way, but you have to offer the Morri and filler to sactown for whatever pick they have and it would be a little more realistic
If someone's offering you a Top 5 pick, then maybe you consider trading Bledsoe; trading him and Tucker for 8th would get you fired immediately
Oh yeah, they were horrible trades, but I would still start Warren over Stauskas in that scenario. I honestly don't see any trades that I can find feasible. If Love wanted to come to Phx and stay, the twins and something else could be a huge win for both parties...we get a stretch 4 monster rebounder to play with Len, open things up for Warren to do his thing.
I know many talk about Love not being a winner, but his skills would be perfect for what we have on our team. Rebounding and the ability to shoot from the outside. It would have to be some sort of sign and trade, but Love wouldn't do it I don't think..not sure he would lock into a contract this summer with the impending cap increase. I'm not sure what his contract situation is though...whether he is under contract for next year but has an option or what.
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1UPZ wrote:Suns / Bulls
Out: Markieff Morris + Marcus Morris
In: Taj Gibson + McDermott
Suns / Kings
Out: Eric Bledsoe + PJ Tucker
In: Pick 8 + Stauskas
Suns draft Hezonja at 8.
Suns sign Biyombo.
C: Len (30)/ Biyombo (18)
PF: Gibson (30) / Wright (18)
SF: Warren (24) / Stauskas (18) / Bullock (6)
SG: Hezonja (24) / McDermott (18) / Goodwin (6)
PG: Knight (30) / Goodwin (18)
Bench (in case of injuries): McNeal (PG) , Granger (SF/PF)
*Bogdanovic
*Brown
Also are waiting to join, maybe in 2016.
Defensive big men, specialists shooters, versatile backcourt, high IQ.
Turrible.

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Mr-Al wrote:1UPZ wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I think I'd go with Warren over Stauskas at the 3.
lol forgot about him.
I'm advocating trading for Sac's pick
But Bled/PJ for the 8th pick and stauskas is SUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH an overpay it's ridiculous
We're getting completely hosed. A combination of the Morri and/or Tucker and/or the 13 pick and/or future picks should be the most we offer
I can't overstate how much of an overpay that is
Second we have Warren, no need for Mcdermott
Third, Taj is relatively old and honestly wouldn't be that much of a difference maker at all, trading both of the Morri (I despise the Morri) and losing that depth and those good contracts for an almost over-the hill maybe above average starter like Taj is also such an overpay
Taj would be like 35 by the team was anywhere close to contention
These are horrible trades. You have the right thinking in a way, but you have to offer the Morri and filler to sactown for whatever pick they have and it would be a little more realistic
If someone's offering you a Top 5 pick, then maybe you consider trading Bledsoe; trading him and Tucker for 8th would get you fired immediately
1. That team is MY team, a team that I would *hopefully* enjoy watching, because it has interior defense, dynamic guards and a heck of a lot of shooters... sub-in who ever is shooting hot.. aka Spurs-style.
2. Warren is NOT a shooter like McDermott, I look at Kyle Korver and see how much open lanes he brings to the Hawks and how much defensive attention he takes, which allows the paint to be vulnerable to attacks... you have Warren and Goodwin who can attack and slash, so that will help them. Not to mention Len and Gibson for open layups inside.
3. Bledsoe and Tucker for pick 7-8 (2015 Kings pick) and Stauskas (Pick 8 2014)... thats how I looked at it... 2 top 10 picks for Bledsoe and Tucker.... it also means I believe Stauskas still has a lot more of improvements left in him..
I think having a Stauskas and a McDermott on the court for some minutes would stretch out the defense so much that it will throw-off the opposition's defenses and cause some breakdown.... I mean imagine looking out for 2 sharp shooters, Stauskas especially has shown he has good vision, so the Suns become real tricky to guard.
If someone tells me Bledsoe is worth 2 lottery picks, I'd be ecstatic... Tucker can fetch a late first rounder sure.. but 2 top 10s?
I think depending on who Suns pick, its worth it... also assuming Stauskas improves.
4. Morris twins for Gibson and McDermott was tough for me... I REALLY REALLY REALLY want Mirotic.. but untouchable apparently. I'll probably request Bulls to add another future pick to even it out more since Gibson isnt a young buck anymore.. but LOW mileage since he was sixth man a lot of times.
I'm also banking on McDermott to be the next Kyle Korver.... well a mixture of Dudley and Kyle Korver..
5. That was MY trade proposal... some people here don't have to like it, i dont care, we all have different opinions and its perfectly fine to put forth those opinions. I'm not attacking anyone elses, make your own proposals, this is a hypothetical thread afterall.
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Brook Lopez on an absolute tear...
I recall others and myself wanting him on the deadline....
Lopez and Plumlee showing they can play together.
Imagine Len and Lopez...
I recall others and myself wanting him on the deadline....
Lopez and Plumlee showing they can play together.
Imagine Len and Lopez...
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1UPZ wrote:Suns / Bulls
Out: Markieff Morris + Marcus Morris
In: Taj Gibson + McDermott
Suns / Kings
Out: Eric Bledsoe + PJ Tucker
In: Pick 8 + Stauskas
Suns draft Hezonja at 8.
Suns sign Biyombo.
C: Len (30)/ Biyombo (18)
PF: Gibson (30) / Wright (18)
SF: Warren (24) / Stauskas (18) / Bullock (6)
SG: Hezonja (24) / McDermott (18) / Goodwin (6)
PG: Knight (30) / Goodwin (18)
Bench (in case of injuries): McNeal (PG) , Granger (SF/PF)
*Bogdanovic
*Brown
Also are waiting to join, maybe in 2016.
Defensive big men, specialists shooters, versatile backcourt, high IQ.
Yikes. We get worked in both of those trades. We can get much better value for Bledsoe, especially with the cap rising and the cheap contract he will be locked into. McDermott is the last player I want on this team, if you think the Morris twins have bad defense...
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Sign Monroe. See what kind of value we can get for Morris twins, Knight, if nothing of interest don't trade them. Knight really bugs me, if he were just 2 inches taller he would be perfect for our team. The problem is if we trade him there really aren't any solid SG's out there to replace him and the good ones are untouchable. Maybe try a Knight/Butler trade but I doubt that happens. Maybe trade Knight for draft picks/assets, and sign Wesley Matthews.
Most likely though we will end up signing Knight (hopefully for not too much money) and betting on the combo guard system again which is uncomfortable. Bledsoe/Knight/Warren/Monroe/Len would not be a bad starting five and would all be hitting their primes at the same time. Are they good enough to win it all? It would all depend on how they develop really.. although I don't think we're going all in on a lineup like this, still waiting for a superstar to trade for probably.
Most likely though we will end up signing Knight (hopefully for not too much money) and betting on the combo guard system again which is uncomfortable. Bledsoe/Knight/Warren/Monroe/Len would not be a bad starting five and would all be hitting their primes at the same time. Are they good enough to win it all? It would all depend on how they develop really.. although I don't think we're going all in on a lineup like this, still waiting for a superstar to trade for probably.
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1UPZ wrote:Mr-Al wrote:1UPZ wrote:
lol forgot about him.
I'm advocating trading for Sac's pick
But Bled/PJ for the 8th pick and stauskas is SUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH an overpay it's ridiculous
We're getting completely hosed. A combination of the Morri and/or Tucker and/or the 13 pick and/or future picks should be the most we offer
I can't overstate how much of an overpay that is
Second we have Warren, no need for Mcdermott
Third, Taj is relatively old and honestly wouldn't be that much of a difference maker at all, trading both of the Morri (I despise the Morri) and losing that depth and those good contracts for an almost over-the hill maybe above average starter like Taj is also such an overpay
Taj would be like 35 by the team was anywhere close to contention
These are horrible trades. You have the right thinking in a way, but you have to offer the Morri and filler to sactown for whatever pick they have and it would be a little more realistic
If someone's offering you a Top 5 pick, then maybe you consider trading Bledsoe; trading him and Tucker for 8th would get you fired immediately
1. That team is MY team, a team that I would *hopefully* enjoy watching, because it has interior defense, dynamic guards and a heck of a lot of shooters... sub-in who ever is shooting hot.. aka Spurs-style.
2. Warren is NOT a shooter like McDermott, I look at Kyle Korver and see how much open lanes he brings to the Hawks and how much defensive attention he takes, which allows the paint to be vulnerable to attacks... you have Warren and Goodwin who can attack and slash, so that will help them. Not to mention Len and Gibson for open layups inside.
3. Bledsoe and Tucker for pick 7-8 (2015 Kings pick) and Stauskas (Pick 8 2014)... thats how I looked at it... 2 top 10 picks for Bledsoe and Tucker.... it also means I believe Stauskas still has a lot more of improvements left in him..
I think having a Stauskas and a McDermott on the court for some minutes would stretch out the defense so much that it will throw-off the opposition's defenses and cause some breakdown.... I mean imagine looking out for 2 sharp shooters, Stauskas especially has shown he has good vision, so the Suns become real tricky to guard.
If someone tells me Bledsoe is worth 2 lottery picks, I'd be ecstatic... Tucker can fetch a late first rounder sure.. but 2 top 10s?
I think depending on who Suns pick, its worth it... also assuming Stauskas improves.
4. Morris twins for Gibson and McDermott was tough for me... I REALLY REALLY REALLY want Mirotic.. but untouchable apparently. I'll probably request Bulls to add another future pick to even it out more since Gibson isnt a young buck anymore.. but LOW mileage since he was sixth man a lot of times.
I'm also banking on McDermott to be the next Kyle Korver.... well a mixture of Dudley and Kyle Korver..
5. That was MY trade proposal... some people here don't have to like it, i dont care, we all have different opinions and its perfectly fine to put forth those opinions. I'm not attacking anyone elses, make your own proposals, this is a hypothetical thread afterall.
Sorry man, didn't meant to attack. I went a bit overboard with it
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Say Cousins demands a trade next year after a poor start to the season, I know it is wishful thinking but, does Knight+Len+Morris twins+draft picks get it done? I think that destroys any other teams offer. Overpay, yeah, but we would be getting a superstar which is huge in this league and is why you often have to overpay.
I have no clue if the salaries match up but they could probably find a few throw ins or tinker with it to make it work
I have no clue if the salaries match up but they could probably find a few throw ins or tinker with it to make it work
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SarcasticSun wrote:Sign Monroe. See what kind of value we can get for Morris twins, Knight, if nothing of interest don't trade them. Knight really bugs me, if he were just 2 inches taller he would be perfect for our team. The problem is if we trade him there really aren't any solid SG's out there to replace him and the good ones are untouchable. Maybe try a Knight/Butler trade but I doubt that happens. Maybe trade Knight for draft picks/assets, and sign Wesley Matthews.
Most likely though we will end up signing Knight (hopefully for not too much money) and betting on the combo guard system again which is uncomfortable. Bledsoe/Knight/Warren/Monroe/Len would not be a bad starting five and would all be hitting their primes at the same time. Are they good enough to win it all? It would all depend on how they develop really.. although I don't think we're going all in on a lineup like this, still waiting for a superstar to trade for probably.
I've always constantly criticized Monroe, but he might honestly be the best we can hope for realistically
He's definitely improved this year
Warren/Monroe at 3/4 would be a pretty awesome super old-school frontcourt duo
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ginobiliflops wrote:Saberestar wrote:Knight is not expected to play again this season for the Suns due to a heel bone bruise associated with the left ankle sprain that he suffered on March 9. Knight will not join the Suns on their four-game trip that starts with a Tuesday night game at Atlanta. When the Suns return, the only remaining game will be an April 14 season finale against the Los Angeles Clippers that Knight is not expected to play.
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Well, we will see if that game against OKC has been the last game in Knight's career like a Sun.
He's going to miss nearly 20 games with an ankle sprain? If he suffered an injury like Paul George he may take 5 years to come back
I think he also has a bone bruise on his heel or something like that.
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Mr-Al wrote:1UPZ wrote:Mr-Al wrote:
I'm advocating trading for Sac's pick
But Bled/PJ for the 8th pick and stauskas is SUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH an overpay it's ridiculous
We're getting completely hosed. A combination of the Morri and/or Tucker and/or the 13 pick and/or future picks should be the most we offer
I can't overstate how much of an overpay that is
Second we have Warren, no need for Mcdermott
Third, Taj is relatively old and honestly wouldn't be that much of a difference maker at all, trading both of the Morri (I despise the Morri) and losing that depth and those good contracts for an almost over-the hill maybe above average starter like Taj is also such an overpay
Taj would be like 35 by the team was anywhere close to contention
These are horrible trades. You have the right thinking in a way, but you have to offer the Morri and filler to sactown for whatever pick they have and it would be a little more realistic
If someone's offering you a Top 5 pick, then maybe you consider trading Bledsoe; trading him and Tucker for 8th would get you fired immediately
1. That team is MY team, a team that I would *hopefully* enjoy watching, because it has interior defense, dynamic guards and a heck of a lot of shooters... sub-in who ever is shooting hot.. aka Spurs-style.
2. Warren is NOT a shooter like McDermott, I look at Kyle Korver and see how much open lanes he brings to the Hawks and how much defensive attention he takes, which allows the paint to be vulnerable to attacks... you have Warren and Goodwin who can attack and slash, so that will help them. Not to mention Len and Gibson for open layups inside.
3. Bledsoe and Tucker for pick 7-8 (2015 Kings pick) and Stauskas (Pick 8 2014)... thats how I looked at it... 2 top 10 picks for Bledsoe and Tucker.... it also means I believe Stauskas still has a lot more of improvements left in him..
I think having a Stauskas and a McDermott on the court for some minutes would stretch out the defense so much that it will throw-off the opposition's defenses and cause some breakdown.... I mean imagine looking out for 2 sharp shooters, Stauskas especially has shown he has good vision, so the Suns become real tricky to guard.
If someone tells me Bledsoe is worth 2 lottery picks, I'd be ecstatic... Tucker can fetch a late first rounder sure.. but 2 top 10s?
I think depending on who Suns pick, its worth it... also assuming Stauskas improves.
4. Morris twins for Gibson and McDermott was tough for me... I REALLY REALLY REALLY want Mirotic.. but untouchable apparently. I'll probably request Bulls to add another future pick to even it out more since Gibson isnt a young buck anymore.. but LOW mileage since he was sixth man a lot of times.
I'm also banking on McDermott to be the next Kyle Korver.... well a mixture of Dudley and Kyle Korver..
5. That was MY trade proposal... some people here don't have to like it, i dont care, we all have different opinions and its perfectly fine to put forth those opinions. I'm not attacking anyone elses, make your own proposals, this is a hypothetical thread afterall.
Sorry man, didn't meant to attack. I went a bit overboard with it
lol, dont apologise, I'm not fuzzed, but I just wanted to make sure people understand my proposal was specifically what I think will be a balanced team to go forward with.
I watch Hawks a lot and Spurs too (pretty basketball) and I want the Suns to go that direction... both teams dont have MVP candidate superstars but instead have a balanced team that attacks from everywhere.
Stauskas and McDermott on the same court... will open up the lane for Goodwin and Warren, capitalizing on their strengths therefore developing them better. Len will also get touches....
Gibson is a player that doesnt take shots away from the actual gifted scorers on the team and focuses on defense...
Stauskas also has good vision for a SG/SF player.... like a less dynamic Hayward.. smaller Turkoglu.
Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space
I would rather overpay for Danny Green than overpay for Knight.
I would also try to keep Gerald Green on a reasonable deal. This team needs some legit shooters in the worst way. I know GG sucked most of the year but our guard rotation has been a mess. If given a consistent role I think he can thrive with either Bledsoe or Goodwin at the point. Not convinced at all on Goodwin ever becoming a legit 2. I would make him Bledsoe's back up at the one with either Green on the court with him.
I would draft Kaminsky if available.
Len, Kaminsky, (Project) Alec Brown
Markieff, Wright, Marcus
Warren, Tucker, , Danny Granger, (Shooter)
D- Green, G - Green, Bogdan Bogdanovic
Bledsoe, Goodwin, (Pass first Veteran)
I would also try to keep Gerald Green on a reasonable deal. This team needs some legit shooters in the worst way. I know GG sucked most of the year but our guard rotation has been a mess. If given a consistent role I think he can thrive with either Bledsoe or Goodwin at the point. Not convinced at all on Goodwin ever becoming a legit 2. I would make him Bledsoe's back up at the one with either Green on the court with him.
I would draft Kaminsky if available.
Len, Kaminsky, (Project) Alec Brown
Markieff, Wright, Marcus
Warren, Tucker, , Danny Granger, (Shooter)
D- Green, G - Green, Bogdan Bogdanovic
Bledsoe, Goodwin, (Pass first Veteran)







