Official 2015 NBA Draft Discussion Thread [ft. TyCobb]

[Michael Lucky]

Winslow shoots over 40% from 3

Not a small sample size either, but it does baffle me as to why his mid range or his FT shooting is pretty poor. Again if we have the fifth pick and the Okafor/Towns/Russell/Mudiay are gone i'd be fine picking him, but i'd still rather have one of those four instead.

[Michael Lucky]

duke won not because of okafor but WHAT oh yeah gaurds..
last 30 years of nba champs
heat----no c....
mavas==no c...tryson chandler
spurs----pf-
lakers--- SHAQ no ever like him again
bulls-- no c
Celtics--no c... perkins
pistons-- no c
ok so I proved my point. stop being so rude when someone posts something u don't agree with
just open ur eyes
someone said Anthony davis great player team 8th spot.....
all iam saying is its easyier to find biggs later than sf
we r looking for all-stars not bench guys we got that now

Heat had Bosh at C and Pau played a lot of C as well with Bynum out. All that list indicates is that you're better off with a superstar wing player and there simply isn't one that I see in this draft.

[ratedrdb]

winslow has a chance to be an all-star than any other sf n this draft

[Michael Lucky]

winslow has a chance to be an all-star than any other sf n this draft

keyword is than any other. The wing position is extremely weak in this draft especially at the top.

[thegamefritz]

I hate Bill simmons because he is the spike lee of the Celtics but I'll go back to what he said when we drafted Julius Randle. He said that We saw a lot of Randle's game and so there were a lot of criticisms on his game despite the NBA ready body and the talent, so the more games the more we were able to pick a part his game. In that reason I would like to stay away from Euro players. I'm not sold with the clips and highlights. For every Dirk there's a Bargnani and for every Mirotic there's a Tskithisvili.

For Winslow, I'm impressed with the kid but @ 6'6", he is undersized for an SF. He also played PF at duke every now and then and I do not think he can handle the PF nor dxo I think he can handle the SF. For sure he can defend the SG but he can not play SG in offense so I'LL STAY AWAY if we got the #3-5. I'd rather pick WCS. We can get an SF with the money we got, like Draymond Green if we can't get Butler or Leonard

[ArC_man]

Winslow is 6'6" without shoes, his height and wingspan are comparable with other wings. In comparison: Stanley Johnson is 6'6.75" without shoes, MKG is 6'5.75" without shoes, Jimmy Butler and Kawhi Leonard are both 6'6" without shoes.

I think Hezonja has the most potential out of all of the wings in this draft. Winslow probably has the highest floor though, he's at worst going to be an elite defender like MKG.

[LApwnd]

I hate Bill simmons because he is the spike lee of the Celtics but I'll go back to what he said when we drafted Julius Randle. He said that We saw a lot of Randle's game and so there were a lot of criticisms on his game despite the NBA ready body and the talent, so the more games the more we were able to pick a part his game. In that reason I would like to stay away from Euro players. I'm not sold with the clips and highlights. For every Dirk there's a Bargnani and for every Mirotic there's a Tskithisvili.

For Winslow, I'm impressed with the kid but @ 6'6", he is undersized for an SF. He also played PF at duke every now and then and I do not think he can handle the PF nor dxo I think he can handle the SF. For sure he can defend the SG but he can not play SG in offense so I'LL STAY AWAY if we got the #3-5. I'd rather pick WCS. We can get an SF with the money we got, like Draymond Green if we can't get Butler or Leonard

Green would be a solid get but considering it would take a MAX offer to remotely even prevent GSW from matching, I'd say its an overpay. He does everything good but not great at any one thing. Butler/Leonard while MAX offer is also overpay I say is more appropriate for the long run, both are playing within team concept but yet exceling with production as well. Green if you did not watch him actually play his stat line is rather unimpressive and while not really a headcase like Stephenson I would not be surprised to see Green struggle like Lance on another team with a different system, right now on GSW he is almost like a roamer on D and O, he can do whatever he wants but I feel like if a coach restricts him to certain type of role offensively like a #2 or even a #3 on O, it might lead to a lot more inefficient offense. Only thing I'm truly impressed with Green is his ability to guard both SF and PF with relative effectiveness, he seems to always make it quite difficult for Griffin

[One Love]

I continue to be amazed by how so many posters say "draft big" & "offer Lenard or Butler the max"... Stanley is better than Lenard was in college NOW... I do agree that a center need to block shots & rebound but the game has changed and most offenses are not "inside out"... I prefer Stanley but if your presences is Winslow that is fine but we could have a legit SF for the next 10 years... I hope we get the 5th pick so management could draft Stanley... Clarkson, Stanley & Randle would be a solid young core... We could target other solid players in the draft & free agency... I personally like Asik or Lopez (Robin) to complement Randle down low... Over Rondo & Dragic... Clarkson, KB24, Stanley, Randle & Asik/Lopez would be a solid defensive unit that will out rebound and out hustle most teams...

[Michael Lucky]

I find that debatable considering Kawhi was a really good college player. Even got his non talented team to a second seed and the sweet sixteen.

[crazyeights]

Winslow shoots over 40% from 3

Not a small sample size either, but it does baffle me as to why his mid range or his FT shooting is pretty poor. Again if we have the fifth pick and the Okafor/Towns/Russell/Mudiay are gone i'd be fine picking him, but i'd still rather have one of those four instead.

It's pretty simple for me: practice. Haven't they been saying for years how the midrange game's becoming a lost art? IIRC they were saying that about guys like Rip Hamilton in the early 2000s.

I agree about Okafor/Towns/Russell....I'm not sold on Mudiay, mostly because all we have is yt highlights. The combine will be huge for him...if he participates. He has to, right?

[ArC_man]

I continue to be amazed by how so many posters say "draft big" & "offer Lenard or Butler the max"... Stanley is better than Lenard was in college NOW... I do agree that a center need to block shots & rebound but the game has changed and most offenses are not "inside out"... I prefer Stanley but if your presences is Winslow that is fine but we could have a legit SF for the next 10 years... I hope we get the 5th pick so management could draft Stanley... Clarkson, Stanley & Randle would be a solid young core... We could target other solid players in the draft & free agency... I personally like Asik or Lopez (Robin) to complement Randle down low... Over Rondo & Dragic... Clarkson, KB24, Stanley, Randle & Asik/Lopez would be a solid defensive unit that will out rebound and out hustle most teams...

The problem I have with Stanley is that he can't finish through contact. How can someone so big and strong be shooting only 40% in the paint? That can potentially become a major problem in the NBA where players are bigger and stronger.

[One Love]

Mudiay could be the next Exum or Lillard... Not much take on the dude outside if a couple 5 minute highlight reels against 6'5" asian dudes...

[LApwnd]

I continue to be amazed by how so many posters say "draft big" & "offer Lenard or Butler the max"... Stanley is better than Lenard was in college NOW... I do agree that a center need to block shots & rebound but the game has changed and most offenses are not "inside out"... I prefer Stanley but if your presences is Winslow that is fine but we could have a legit SF for the next 10 years... I hope we get the 5th pick so management could draft Stanley... Clarkson, Stanley & Randle would be a solid young core... We could target other solid players in the draft & free agency... I personally like Asik or Lopez (Robin) to complement Randle down low... Over Rondo & Dragic... Clarkson, KB24, Stanley, Randle & Asik/Lopez would be a solid defensive unit that will out rebound and out hustle most teams...

not saying I don't like Stanley but to say he is better than Leonard in college would correlate into Stanley being better in the pro's is a bit of a reach. Plently of players look good in college and turnout terrible. Fact that Leonard was picked by the Spurs playing at a small school should be reason enough to ignore college production and to mention Leonard has actually played up to his potential. Players like Ammo, Reddick, etc. were beast in college...one's out of the league the other is a solid role player. IF we only gona go that route I guess Kaminsky is better than both Okafor and Towns and should be overall #1 pick, basing on college production this past season.

[Slava]

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[TyCobb]

If we pick #4 or #5 I'm all in on Hezonja.

[crazyeights]

If we pick #4 or #5 I'm all in on Hezonja.

I do like his swagger. One thing about drafting for LAL is they've gotta be able to enjoy the big stage.

[ratedrdb]

winslow will be the pick write it down...april 7 2015

[crazyeights]

[Mirjalovic]

duke won not because of okafor but WHAT oh yeah gaurds..
last 30 years of nba champs
heat----no c....
mavas==no c...tryson chandler
spurs----pf-
lakers--- SHAQ no ever like him again
bulls-- no c
Celtics--no c... perkins
pistons-- no c
ok so I proved my point. stop being so rude when someone posts something u don't agree with
just open ur eyes
someone said Anthony davis great player team 8th spot.....
all iam saying is its easyier to find biggs later than sf
we r looking for all-stars not bench guys we got that now

Heat got Bosh, a bigman.
Mavs got Tyson Chandler, he is perfectly fine 5 at that time.. and Dirk is there too
Spurs, Duncan is a 5 on today game.
Lakers got Lamar, Bynum and Pau. All very capable bigmen
Bulls ? Yeah, you got it
Celtics, they got Kevin Garnett, a bigman
Pistons, are you kidding me ? Ben Wallace was a DPOY and playing very integral part for Pistons championships, oh there was Rasheed too.

you need big more than SF, unless their name LeBron, Durant or Larry Bird.

their SF ??

Heat : LeBron, top 3 GOAT SF
Mavs : washed up Marion
Spurs : Bowen, Kahwi
Lakers : Fox, Artest, washed up Glen Rice, Ariza
Bulls : Pippen, top 5 GOAT SF
Celtics : Pierce, arguably top 10 GOAT SF
Pistons : Prince.

see ? you can looking for a cheap SF like Bowen, Fox, or Artest, and concentrate on another positions, or get Lebron or Pippen type players.

will Winslow be better than LeBron or Pippen ? LOL.

[Mirjalovic]

the one who controls rebound always control the game. Why ? because with rebound you can get more possessions. more possessions mean more chances, and minimizing your opponents chance means better defense. Thats why good bigs always necessary. unless we get words from Marc Gasol, i'll draft Town, Okafor or WCS over Winslow or Stanley. I still prefer Hezonja and Russell too over Winslow or Stanley.